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Old 09-21-2008, 03:14 PM   #51
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I think PHP is nice enough for web-scripts, it's nowhere the best or prettiest, but you can whip up a PHP script and have it working on a multitude of hosts very easy.
The speed with which you can whip up a script is more determined by how fluent you are with the language. I could whip up an ASP.NET page very quickly, and it would be 1000 times more elegant than any PHP script.

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Releasing "public" web-software that requires a JVM or .NET limits the customer base radically...
Except that ASP.NET does not require .NET on the client, only on the server. Since you have control over the server, this is simply not an issue.

This wasn't meant to be an advert for ASP.NET by the way, just that both of the points you raise happen to be relevant to it

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Old 09-21-2008, 08:14 PM   #52
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The speed with which you can whip up a script is more determined by how fluent you are with the language. I could whip up an ASP.NET page very quickly, and it would be 1000 times more elegant than any PHP script.


Except that ASP.NET does not require .NET on the client, only on the server. Since you have control over the server, this is simply not an issue.

This wasn't meant to be an advert for ASP.NET by the way, just that both of the points you raise happen to be relevant to it

Which reminds me.

Silverlight does require .NET on the client as far as I know.

Have you seen the new plan for MS and .NET.

Compile anything to MSIL (.NET intepreter code). Then write translaters to compile MSIL anything.

x36 code, Javascript, Flash, PHP, i64, etc.

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Pina coladas and getting caught in the rain.

Oh, and PHP. But I mostly love design, print and web.

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Old 10-01-2008, 01:26 PM   #54
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PHP is pretty cool ... even better are frameworks and of course nice is also ruby and ruby on rails
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Boooo. Ruby sucks Just kidding.

Use what you are most comfortable with.

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While there are numerous languages to write in, PHP is the easiest for the basic html guy to adapt to. I program in html, php, cgi, and javascript and although there is a time and place for everything, php is my favorite.


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Actionscript 3, the Flash Platform programming language.

You can write software for the web or for the desktop with little or no modification to your code. With the browser plugin installed in more than 98% of browsers is the preferred tool of marketers to deliver interactive, breathtaking experiences online and offline with the AIR runtime.

On a personal side I love it because I can have two fingers on programming, one on design, one in new, bleeding cutting edge trends and the other free for coffee, all five fingers happy, entertained and diversified while keeping focus, how's cool is that?

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Old 03-30-2009, 10:14 PM   #59
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I love C# and ASP.NET along with Javascript and MS SQL Server 2008 + Windows Server 2008! I do some PHP, but mostly MSFT programming for me! (Now is that a good thing or a bad thing...?)
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i love vb
now learning php

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Regarding PHP frameworks - I really enjoy using CodeIgniter. Just structured enough to enforce good programming habits, but the framework itself is very lightweight and unobtrusive.


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Currently I work mostly with Classic ASP/VB Script, Visual Basic 6, VBA (Access programming), and now PHP. I've done a little work with C and C++, but it's been a while. And like others, I haven't had the time to get into .NET.

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And turbo-pascal was fun.
Ahhh, Pascal. That's the first programming language I ever learned - it has a very special place in my heart! I think I still have the original text book from 20 years ago.

And of course Assembly - I think I got a B in that college class. But I don't think I could even produce "Hello, World" using it now.

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Old 03-31-2009, 06:18 PM   #63
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Started learning .NET the other day and I've got to say I'm pretty impressed. It all seemed a bit overwhelming at first but the videos on asp.net are a huge help. Plus the fact that my brother is a .NET fanatic helps!

I'm learning .NET for two reasons - one being that my team in my "day job" just merged w/ another team whose skills are all .NET so I'm pretty sure I'll be getting to put these new skills to use soon and two being that my brother keeps hounding me to learn it, and I figured it's a good framework to get some solid experience in. I'm pretty much leaning towards C# though, quite easy to pick up since I know Java. Not a big fan of VB...

Next step is to figure out why I'm having so much trouble installing SQL Server 2005. I think I'll just uninstall it all and go for SQL Server 2008. Seems it's having trouble with the MSXML part.. frustrating!

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Old 04-01-2009, 02:29 AM   #64
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PHP ftw

inb4 RoR

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Old 04-01-2009, 03:36 AM   #65
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prefer asp and .net. Though its more complex than php but less bugs...

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I love PHP.

I have been programming since 1982 and I've programmed with just about everything (BASIC, COBOL, FORTRAN, Assembly, VB, Perl,C, C++, Java, etc. ... even Ada! Anybody else ever programmed in Ada? I see your hand DallasL.)

But for sheer simplicity and that instant gratification of seeing something come together in a web browser...

I love PHP.

I love it so much that I left my senior programming position at NASA working on the Space Shuttle simulator where the astronauts learn to fly their missions so I could do PHP programming on the web for ecommerce.

How's that for loving a language?

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Old 04-01-2009, 11:44 AM   #67
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I am a great fan of asp.net, I use it for most of my projects. And I am using c# with asp.net to make websites.
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I love myself after figuring out to to pass multiple parameters to recursive PHP's preg_replace_callback()... lol

Creativity + PHP + some backend + .js / JQuery skills could put you above and beyond competition...

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I detest MSFT as a platform to rely my business on, although I admire MSFT for worlds-best debuggers and IDE.
After MSFT Visual Dev tools going to LAMP tools makes you feel like you arrived on a voluntary mission to Africa to conquer hunger and AIDS problem.

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I love PHP and SQL intertwined
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Whoa, this thread brings back old memories, although I'm a kiddie compared to some of the veteran programmers here

Back in 9th grade, I programmed in C and C++. They're still my favorite languages. There's something about that Borland Turbo Editor's blue screen that I can't RESIST! Been a while since I did anything in C/C++ though.

I've also done some VB6 and VB .Net programming. To me, they spell convenience. To be able to "draw" a button without writing any code - that's kinda cool

C++ is my favorite with PHP/MySQL combo being a close second.

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php and mysql are good for me. When you find yourself dreaming of scripts and finding solutions when you're sleeping, you know you have a problem.

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Old 04-02-2009, 06:52 AM   #73
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Thanks I've got some tips from this thread... I always wanted to learn PHP and now that are guides of type "lean xxx in 21 days" and similar - I guess I'll learn more programming languages at the end. So I'll add C++, ASP.NET, JAVA for now. :-)

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.NET environment all the way.

No matter which one you choose performance is arguably (technically should be) the same.

Preference for C# though.

If you want performance I go down the assembly route. Debugging is definitely the biggest factor though.
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I'd add that PHP has the most money making potential in the widest range of apps.

You can create brand new web app from scratch with it and sell it.

Or you can enhance existing product/service/tool - and sell your enhancement.
Most of the web backend creativity is build on PHP so knowing it well opens opportunities.

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You can do that with any other...

What makes PHP so great is that it's free and openly supported (given it's open source too), and it runs well and highly supported on free operating systems too (even in commercial environments).

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Are you sure? That's a very bold false statement.
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okay seems clears other disagree but I got to tell you, I LOVE RUBY!

Its fun to work with and great for hacking fast scripts. I uses it a lot the way others use perl. I use it for scraping, automation, browser emulation. lots of great gems out there. yes it has its problems, and I was never a fan of rails. Recently I started playing with Sinatra a great framework for rapid prototype stuff.

Of course PHP is great and I still used it a lot for sites. Its great having all these tools available

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Php has matured quickly, now a oop language, with a robust frameworks like zend and its server, pretty soon .net websites will be looking at php with envy.

Python also seems to be growing and becoming an important alternative.
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I'm not a programmer, however right now I'm enjoy learning on php and html basic.

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I'm a PHP lover too. I tried to outsource my php work but ended up doing it myself because I missed it haha
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For code I write myself, as opposed to hire out or otherwise delegate...

What I love, personally: Python and Django.

Disadvantages:
Compared to e.g. Wordpress + PHP, not nearly so many plug-n-play scripts and addons.
Can be more expensive to hire contractors (way more PHP devs out there... larger labor pool).

Advantages:
My favorite language

Another advantage: if I need to do something for which no reusable tool already exists, it's quick and easy *for me* to do it in Python + Django. (Because I'm nearly an expert in the tool stack. Might not be otherwise.)

Bottom line reason, though... joy Having coded a fair amount in several different languages over the years (C, PHP, Perl and Python), I always have the MOST FUN programming in Python. And Django is my favorite web framework too.

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For some weird reason I've loved Prolog ever since I've learned about it. The likelihood I'll ever use it to develop something practical is very slim though

These days I'm all about PHP for my websites, Python for server maintenance and automation and Java for a desktop application I'm developing at the moment.

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I love PHP -- very versatile.

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Its strange how so many people like PHP, i didnt like it so much.

I persoanlly prefer Perl due to it being designed for word manipulation, which happens to suit very well to webpages normally.

I will add a link to my own product when i have one.
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I've never tried using PHP yet, i'll take my chance to know the use of that language..got to learn something first,..and that's the time i could make comment about it..
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php is the most world commen used . i really love it
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I couldn't agree more. Creating web applications with front-end in valid HTML + jQuery user interface, back-end PHP and (if needed) more serious back-end algorithms written in Java turns out to be the best, most reliable and fastest way of online coding in my experience.

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My Favourites:
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I'm a PHP person, always have been, always will be i guess
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Bacon.

Oh, and .NET of course.

I've done my share of PHP, Old school ASP, Pascal, PIK Basic, tiny bit of COBOL, and C.

If I'm writing something myself, it's going to be in C# and .NET.

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Old 05-30-2009, 03:35 AM   #93
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Like many of you, I've also programmed in numerous languages.... but for web programming, I've settled on a C/C++ CGI with an Sqlite database....

nothing like the sheer power of the machine, with no interpreter to get in the way!

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Well I am not a exp programmer myself...but I would say Java...if I were a exp coder...
in the world of Ineternet PHP is the best...But Java was the first language which taught me how to implement your logic...
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I would have to say php, it's really the easiest one of all and I'm able to do everything so far that my job requires.
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I love python/Django, then C#/MonoRail
Do program in PHP also in conjunction with WordPress
But as far as beginners go I don't think PHP is a good choice. Easy to learn but you will most likely program badly.

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I haven't heard much on Java here - I like PHP and .NET but my life is around Java at the moment.
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I HATE MICROSOFT
i hate Microsoft platform but i agree with techymarketer that .net platform and php is recommended for only medium size projects.
for me after spending 7 years in writing web applications using php i found that PHP still have some weakness points .
files manipulation is one of them .
for application i think silverlight and c++ is the most powerful development language .
and we can have live example proving that silverlight and c++ is the best if we checked ebay.com
Sorry but that is just rubbish. php can easily handle large scale multi-tier applications just as .net can. Sliverlight does look promising, but I think you mean c# with silverlight and not c++ yes? Its all about choosing the tool that makes you productive for the platform you are targetting and you certainly wouldnt choose c++ for any quick website development. ebay is actually written (from years back) using an ISAPI dll, perhaps in C or perhaps in another 3gl, difficult to say.

Me I still love Delphi, ok no good for the current demand for web based apps but great for win32 apps, when i do do webby then its php/mysql with a javascript framework and there are some cool ones out there.
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I am a server admin. Hence, I love Php, perl, asp and asp.net.

However, I am an asp.net geek if you count my programming skills.

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Hands down. C#.

I can code circles around any script kiddie with C# and optimize my hardware resources in the process because... get this now... pay close attention....

IT'S COMPILED AS A BINARY

Binary code executes exponentially faster, with fewer resources, than any interpreted script that has to parse at runtime. This means that I can serve far more users and visitors to a website using the same hardware resources than I can with a site written in PHP or even ASP.

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