I Love PHP. What Do You Love?

Steven Fullman · 08-11-2008, 05:33 PM

OK, Warrior-Coders,

Share your favourite languages here...

I'll start:

I Love PHP, especially in conjunction with SQL (any flavor). Quite into Perl and Javascript, too

Ta,
Steve

zerofill · 08-11-2008, 06:04 PM

Money derived from my mAd PHP skillzzzz lol...PHP ftw

zapseo · 08-11-2008, 06:09 PM

I'm sure I'd like php more if I had as much experience with it as I've had with shell scripting.

So, I like unix shell scripting.

But I'd have some serious products out there if my php skills were up there with my shell scripting skills.

Of course, I've had my share of enjoying assembly language.

And turbo-pascal was fun.

pjs · 08-11-2008, 07:18 PM

I spent years using PHP but have since moved on to much more powerful web frameworks. Now I basically only write web stuff in Python using the Django framework.

PHP is awesome for a quick script though, especially one that's highly portable across basically any web host. I host my own web sites so using a custom setup isn't a problem. I'm too much of a geek I guess LOL..

Michael Ellis · 08-11-2008, 09:55 PM

Oh man… now you’ve got me thinging about the good old days.

I’ve done a lot of programming in my time… Basic, Pascal, Perl, Python, VB, C, C++ Java… not to mention the scripting languages for the web.

I used to ba a Web Infrastructure Engineer! :<>

I love programming, but I’m not into as much anymore – no time, and I tend to need a bigger paycheck nowadays than programming can provide. LOL

However, I do still try to keep my skills up-to-date with the latest technologies. I think C# and VB.NET and the whole .NET framework is pretty cool… MS finally coming up with a true Entrprise development solution that can compete with J2EE – much better than the old MS/COM/DNA.

Karen Newton · 08-11-2008, 10:02 PM

Not sure what I love but I can tell you what I HATE...

WINDOWS programming

Why? Not my expertise!

I've been programming on UNIX platform for so long now... java, c, c++, various scripting etc.

I love programming for the web...Lately I've been getting back into php, only because it's in such high demand. My brother keeps bugging me to learn .net, has even showed me job offers just to entice me. Problem is, there isn't enough time in the day to do everything I want.

I plan to put some time aside in a few weeks to look at Adobe Air ... anyone else?

Karen

Diego Hernando · 08-11-2008, 11:11 PM

In order of what I like more:

VB.net
C#.net
PHP

Mark Brian · 08-12-2008, 12:59 AM

I've tried several web programming languages and I'm happy I chose PHP to stick with. For me its a very promising language and will continue to improve in time. PHP 6 is inevitable.

Jared Alberghini · 08-12-2008, 04:35 AM

PHP is where it's at! Haven't you noticed the new Warrior Forum running lightning fast now using php? HEHE...

Jared

colinredk · 08-12-2008, 08:14 AM

At home I still program in C, just to keep the mind going. I tried my hand at C++ when it first came out. And recently tried my hand at PHP. I like the simplicity of PHP. Looks cool. In fact, I've had some easy PHP hacks installed on some web projects. It's clean and easy to do.

But there's no time, really for doing these fun things. Too much into IM nowadays. LOL

bendiggs · 08-12-2008, 02:39 PM

I love all sorts of programming languages, it just depends on the purpose I suppose. For the web PHP and Python do amazing things with little overhead. For general everyday programming I like to use C++, but that's because it is what I am most familiar with and the cross-platform capabilities make it my go to language. I have dabbled with some Java and C#.NET, but haven't really done anything substantial with them yet.

MrYossu · 08-12-2008, 04:46 PM

My favourite platform is easily ASP.NET/C#

I have looked at PHP a few times since I got into IM, as it seems to be the most popular platform for Imers, but I really can't see why. To me it looks very primitive, much like Classic ASP (pre .NET) does.

Don't want to start a war over it though ;-)

pjs · 08-12-2008, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karen Newton

I plan to put some time aside in a few weeks to look at Adobe Air ... anyone else?

Yea, Adobe Air looks very cool. I've been wanting to dig into that but I'm much to busy with other things unfortunately.

zerofill · 08-12-2008, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrYossu

My favourite platform is easily ASP.NET/C#

I have looked at PHP a few times since I got into IM, as it seems to be the most popular platform for Imers, but I really can't see why. To me it looks very primitive, much like Classic ASP (pre .NET) does.

Don't want to start a war over it though ;-)

Actually if you see that it looks primitive from a visual perspective it is because of the design of the site not the PHP. PHP is just a server side language that gives you the ability to present the data however you see fit in the design. So it isn't the PHP that is making it look primitive.

MrYossu · 08-13-2008, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zerofill

Actually if you see that it looks primitive from a visual perspective it is because of the design of the site not the PHP. PHP is just a server side language that gives you the ability to present the data however you see fit in the design. So it isn't the PHP that is making it look primitive.

I didn't mean site design. I was looking at it from a programmer's point of view. I used Classic ASP for years, and moved to ASP.NET about two years ago. I first looked at PHP after I moved to ASP.NET, and was struck by how much PHP looks like Classic ASP. From that perspective, it looks primitive.

As I said though, I don't want to start a war over it! People get very protective of their favourite platform/language, and my comments on PHP are only from a brief look at it. I don't claim any expertise!

Ta ra
Alan

Ross Dalangin · 08-13-2008, 03:03 PM

I tried several languages before but VB and PHP is what I love most.

Patrice Le Vexier · 08-13-2008, 08:23 PM

C#/VB.NET and PHP. But I recently tried silverlight and WPF, it's very cool for rich internet applications.

Imagine, a sales page in silverlight...

Dr-Neo · 08-14-2008, 05:37 PM

I HATE MICROSOFT
i hate Microsoft platform but i agree with techymarketer that .net platform and php is recommended for only medium size projects.
for me after spending 7 years in writing web applications using php i found that PHP still have some weakness points .
files manipulation is one of them .
for application i think silverlight and c++ is the most powerful development language .
and we can have live example proving that silverlight and c++ is the best if we checked ebay.com

Dan Grossman · 08-14-2008, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pjs

I spent years using PHP but have since moved on to much more powerful web frameworks. Now I basically only write web stuff in Python using the Django framework.

PHP has its share of powerful web frameworks. I'm a user and huge supporter of Symfony. Did you know that del.icio.us and Yahoo! Bookmarks are PHP applications on the Symfony framework?

For offline stuff, C#.NET here, I worked at Microsoft for a while and they turned me to their side

David Holland · 08-14-2008, 11:06 PM

Ruby on Rails. It's the future, deal with it.

zerofill · 08-15-2008, 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrYossu

I didn't mean site design. I was looking at it from a programmer's point of view. I used Classic ASP for years, and moved to ASP.NET about two years ago. I first looked at PHP after I moved to ASP.NET, and was struck by how much PHP looks like Classic ASP. From that perspective, it looks primitive.

As I said though, I don't want to start a war over it! People get very protective of their favourite platform/language, and my comments on PHP are only from a brief look at it. I don't claim any expertise!

Ta ra
Alan

Nah no worries I wasn't arguing with you...I was just guessing that you may have looked at it from a design perspective...I think all languages have their good points and bad points. I'm not a javascript/Ajax fan...but I still see many uses for it. Probably guessed I am not an ASP fan either...but like ajax and javascript I do see the usefulness on the client side aspects.

For client side data manipulation I was playing with Flex...but since I never did much of anything with actionscript...it has driven me mad lol. But if I actually took the time to apply myself I may get the hang of it.

Dan Grossman · 08-15-2008, 03:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Holland

Ruby on Rails. It's the future, deal with it.

ZSFA -- Rails Is A Ghetto (2007-12-31)

Did you know Basecamp, the glamour application of Rails, written by the team that developed Rails, used to have to be restarted 400 times a day because it wouldn't stay running longer than that?

Rails is not the future, it's a fad.

zerofill · 08-15-2008, 03:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Grossman

ZSFA -- Rails Is A Ghetto (2007-12-31)

Did you know Basecamp, the glamour application of Rails, written by the team that developed Rails, used to have to be restarted 400 times a day because it wouldn't stay running longer than that?

Rails is not the future, it's a fad.

Hehe...ROR is slower than molasses in January as my Grammy would have said...So I would agree hehe. Sorry...whoever likes it...but ROR is definitely nowhere near the future. If it is...we are in trouble.

joefission · 08-16-2008, 04:54 PM

I'll risk a public flogging and throw in my support of Java. I lurve me some good Java, but talk about being painted in a corner.

Ever tried to distribute a small desktop application in Java? Sheesh. Or a nice web app -- how many of your clients have access to a servlet container?

*Sigh* Java is wonderful and broken.

Shaun

Karen Newton · 08-16-2008, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joefission

I'll risk a public flogging and throw in my support of Java. I lurve me some good Java, but talk about being painted in a corner.

Ever tried to distribute a small desktop application in Java? Sheesh. Or a nice web app -- how many of your clients have access to a servlet container?

*Sigh* Java is wonderful and broken.

Shaun

Shaun... I feel your pain. I, too, enjoy Java ... *gasp*

Dan Grossman · 08-16-2008, 06:45 PM

If you like writing Java but not the environment you need to run it, try C#.NET. The language is nearly identical in syntax to Java, you just get the .NET libraries instead of the Java libraries.

joefission · 08-16-2008, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karen Newton

Shaun... I feel your pain. I, too, enjoy Java ... *gasp*

So nice that I'm not alone!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Grossman

If you like writing Java but not the environment you need to run it, try C#.NET. The language is nearly identical in syntax to Java, you just get the .NET libraries instead of the Java libraries.

I am leaning that way, I just can't seem to make the leap. I might have to forfeit my open source credentials.

It is very disheartening when I work in something like PHP and accomplish with a few lines what takes an entire class in Java.

Shaun

MrYossu · 08-17-2008, 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr-Neo

I HATE MICROSOFT

With all due respect, that probably invalidates your opinion on their platform then

Don't take this the wrong way, but if you approach anyone's technology with an attitude against the company, then you will have a biased opinion of the technology.

Now I'm not defending MS's arrogant business tactics, I agree that they have acted very badly many times over the years, but this does not alter the facts about their technology.

Sure, everyone has their faves, and that's fine, but don't judge a technology by the business activities of the company.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr-Neo

i hate Microsoft platform but i agree with techymarketer that .net platform and php is recommended for only medium size projects.

Don't know where you saw that. .NET is certainly fine for very large scale enterprise applications, not just for small to medium ones. There are plenty of them around to prove the point.

Ta ra
Alan

David Neale · 08-21-2008, 05:37 AM

I Love Coldfusion 8. Quite amazing.

rwil02 · 08-25-2008, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrYossu

I didn't mean site design. I was looking at it from a programmer's point of view. I used Classic ASP for years, and moved to ASP.NET about two years ago. I first looked at PHP after I moved to ASP.NET, and was struck by how much PHP looks like Classic ASP. From that perspective, it looks primitive.

Ta ra
Alan

That was my take too.
Mostly because I love strong type casting and separating the UI from the codes as much as possible.

I'd much rather catch something at compile time instead of run time.

But then again, I've read stuff that indicates that probably just means my testing methodology needs work.

pjs · 08-26-2008, 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Grossman

Rails is not the future, it's a fad.

Well said. Also, twitter is moving away from rails because of the trouble they've had (fail whale anyone)...

About the PHP frameworks and del.icio.us running on Symfony, etc.

That's cool. del.icio.us started out as a perl app if I remember correctly.

There are lots of large sites running on various frameworks.

I personally prefer Python / Django. Extremely powerful and oh so pretty python code..

electrobooks · 08-28-2008, 04:44 PM

Hi,

I love PHP with Mysql, Javascript (and Ajax) VB.NET, Delphi, and im trying to get to grips with C# as I want to start programing small xbox games (long way off though).

I think PHP is the now and the future. Sites like Facebook really show this as its one of the largest on the net and they seem to be doing fine with it.

Its interesting to see the new languages coming out as the web is developing so fast it really baffles me how much more advanced sites can become.

Chris

cloudchaser22 · 08-28-2008, 10:16 PM

Hi, PHP ROCKS! P.S. Is that a condom on your shoulder?

rwil02 · 08-29-2008, 03:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by electrobooks

Hi,

Its interesting to see the new languages coming out as the web is developing so fast it really baffles me how much more advanced sites can become.

Chris

Try Silverlight

zerofill · 08-29-2008, 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rwil02

Try Silverlight

Have you used it? What is your comparison between it and flex?
I know that it has a lot of Public Relations work ahead of it to obtain as much acceptance as flash player...but I am curious how well it can integrate with PHP for manipulating data client side. Does it have xml-rpc support? Can it directly connect to a database?

I haven't read much on it...so curious...

DallasL · 08-29-2008, 06:47 PM

I love whatever helps me solve the problem in the quickest, easiest, most maintainable way possible.

I've written code in COBOL, Assembler (many flavors), fortran, pl/1, c, c++, java, perl, tcl, ADA, php, etc. etc. and it all comes down to solving the problem in the most efficient way.

That's what programming is all about anyway; solving problems. Any junior "coder" can write the code once you solve the problem for them. Solving the problem elegantly -- that's the hard part, and the best part.

rwil02 · 08-30-2008, 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zerofill

Have you used it? What is your comparison between it and flex?
I know that it has a lot of Public Relations work ahead of it to obtain as much acceptance as flash player...but I am curious how well it can integrate with PHP for manipulating data client side. Does it have xml-rpc support? Can it directly connect to a database?

I haven't read much on it...so curious...

It's basically a sandboxed version of the .NET WPF (Windows Presentation Foundation) for the browser. You can communicate using webservices (soap/xml)
So really quite similar to flash, but the"advantage" being that you can basically use the same UI stuff for a windows app directly.

Dan Grossman · 08-30-2008, 02:43 AM

I once contributed to a fork of LOLCode

rwil02 · 08-30-2008, 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Grossman

I once contributed to a fork of LOLCode

Seriously?
My sister found out about it, though it was a great idea.

Yeah, she's a software developer too. and my mum is the ICT (Information and Communications Technology) head for her school. Guess it's genetic

MrYossu · 08-31-2008, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zerofill

Have you used it? What is your comparison between it and flex?
I know that it has a lot of Public Relations work ahead of it to obtain as much acceptance as flash player...but I am curious how well it can integrate with PHP for manipulating data client side. Does it have xml-rpc support? Can it directly connect to a database?

I haven't read much on it...so curious...

Why do you need to integrate with PHP for client-side stuff, PHP is a serverside technology?

Silverlight contains its own technology for connecting to databases and manipilating the client side. You don't need PHP at all.

MikeHayes · 09-01-2008, 01:15 AM

I'm glad I'm not the only one to mention ... COBOL. Then there's IBM Assembler and NCR Neat/3. Those were the days!!

I've just finished revisiting COBOL by writing a system that analysed a survey questionaire - HTML form - and produced stats. Great fun to discover that after 34 years I could still do it.

Mike
The Mike Hayes Total Info Site

MrYossu · 09-01-2008, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Ferrall

I'm the backyard mechanic of programmers and Perl/CGI is my toolset of choice.

I would love to learn PHP if only to be able to provide scripts for others that were easier to install & use, but for me - everything I write is in Perl/CGI.

Hee hee, if you can cope with CGI and Perl, then PHP (or most any modern technology) would be a doddle.

PHP isn't really that different in language from C, C++, C#, Java, etc, and so as a Perl programmer, you could pick up the language quickly. If you are used to CGI, then you will like the way that PHP mixes up the coding with the HTML. That's actually one of the things I really don't like about PHP (and my memories of doing CGI and Perl for that matter), but it would make your transition easier.

Ta ra

Dan Grossman · 09-01-2008, 03:27 PM

PHP began as a set of Perl scripts

Emilian · 09-01-2008, 11:50 PM

Python/Django is what I am interested in right now. Very handy, very quick to develop.

jallen001 · 09-03-2008, 10:23 AM

C# and ASP.NET, SQL Server 2005. I like PHP too, but only for small scripts like collecting email addresses or for PayPal IPN. Windows hosting accounts used to be more than Linux based, but now they seem to be equal. I get clients that want me to use either of those languages, so it doesn't matter much to me.

Aj Wilson · 09-06-2008, 05:06 AM

I love Flash...

and I love mud cake...

and I love Flash... and Im really suprised Im the only one here?

Flash and php play nicely together...

just like mud cake and milk

doylesoft · 09-17-2008, 03:28 PM

Visual Basic 6. It can do anything C++ can do and easier. It's 10 years old now, but I will hang onto it as long as it still works under new versions of Windows.

Dan Grossman · 09-17-2008, 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doylesoft

Visual Basic 6. It can do anything C++ can do and easier.

When I worked for Microsoft, I read some old market research they had done where they compiled all the results into a set of "personas" of the most common users of their various programming tools... the average Visual Basic user persona was hilarious.

LOL CODE, the language based on LOL CATS, is turing-complete as well, doesn't mean it's a good language to use

elletarchan · 09-18-2008, 10:28 AM

I have a daytime job as a systems developer and over the years I have gone through many different programming languages and script languages... too many to even try to list.

My current "favourites" are Java and C#, Pascal has always a big place in my heart.

I think PHP is nice enough for web-scripts, it's nowhere the best or prettiest, but you can whip up a PHP script and have it working on a multitude of hosts very easy. Releasing "public" web-software that requires a JVM or .NET limits the customer base radically...

MrYossu · 09-21-2008, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elletarchan

I think PHP is nice enough for web-scripts, it's nowhere the best or prettiest, but you can whip up a PHP script and have it working on a multitude of hosts very easy.

The speed with which you can whip up a script is more determined by how fluent you are with the language. I could whip up an ASP.NET page very quickly, and it would be 1000 times more elegant than any PHP script.

Quote:

Originally Posted by elletarchan

Releasing "public" web-software that requires a JVM or .NET limits the customer base radically...

Except that ASP.NET does not require .NET on the client, only on the server. Since you have control over the server, this is simply not an issue.

This wasn't meant to be an advert for ASP.NET by the way, just that both of the points you raise happen to be relevant to it

08-11-2008, 05:33 PM	#1
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colinredk Active Warrior Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 43 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	At home I still program in C, just to keep the mind going. I tried my hand at C++ when it first came out. And recently tried my hand at PHP. I like the simplicity of PHP. Looks cool. In fact, I've had some easy PHP hacks installed on some web projects. It's clean and easy to do. But there's no time, really for doing these fun things. Too much into IM nowadays. LOL

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MrYossu Asleep at the keyboard War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 539 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 89 Thanked 40 Times in 26 Posts	My favourite platform is easily ASP.NET/C# I have looked at PHP a few times since I got into IM, as it seems to be the most popular platform for Imers, but I really can't see why. To me it looks very primitive, much like Classic ASP (pre .NET) does. Don't want to start a war over it though ;-)

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08-16-2008, 04:54 PM	#24
joefission Code Wranglin' Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: 35.869, -78.621 Posts: 215 Thanks: 0 Thanked 10 Times in 8 Posts Contact Info	Re: I Love PHP. What Do You Love? I'll risk a public flogging and throw in my support of Java. I lurve me some good Java, but talk about being painted in a corner. Ever tried to distribute a small desktop application in Java? Sheesh. Or a nice web app -- how many of your clients have access to a servlet container? Sigh Java is wonderful and broken. Shaun
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08-16-2008, 06:45 PM	#26
Dan Grossman Happily Self-Employed War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 797 Thanks: 16 Thanked 341 Times in 53 Posts Social Networking	Re: I Love PHP. What Do You Love? If you like writing Java but not the environment you need to run it, try C#.NET. The language is nearly identical in syntax to Java, you just get the .NET libraries instead of the Java libraries.
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08-21-2008, 05:37 AM	#29
David Neale Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Abbotsford BC, Canada Posts: 1,326 Thanks: 62 Thanked 47 Times in 27 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: I Love PHP. What Do You Love? I Love Coldfusion 8. Quite amazing.
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08-28-2008, 04:44 PM	#32
electrobooks HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Crawley South Coast, United Kingdom. Posts: 147 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: I Love PHP. What Do You Love? Hi, I love PHP with Mysql, Javascript (and Ajax) VB.NET, Delphi, and im trying to get to grips with C# as I want to start programing small xbox games (long way off though). I think PHP is the now and the future. Sites like Facebook really show this as its one of the largest on the net and they seem to be doing fine with it. Its interesting to see the new languages coming out as the web is developing so fast it really baffles me how much more advanced sites can become. Chris
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08-28-2008, 10:16 PM	#33
cloudchaser22 HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: , , . Posts: 290 Thanks: 3 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: I Love PHP. What Do You Love? Hi, PHP ROCKS! P.S. Is that a condom on your shoulder?
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08-29-2008, 06:47 PM	#36
DallasL Warrior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Denver, CO, USA. Posts: 25 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Contact Info	Re: I Love PHP. What Do You Love? I love whatever helps me solve the problem in the quickest, easiest, most maintainable way possible. I've written code in COBOL, Assembler (many flavors), fortran, pl/1, c, c++, java, perl, tcl, ADA, php, etc. etc. and it all comes down to solving the problem in the most efficient way. That's what programming is all about anyway; solving problems. Any junior "coder" can write the code once you solve the problem for them. Solving the problem elegantly -- that's the hard part, and the best part.
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08-30-2008, 02:43 AM	#38
Dan Grossman Happily Self-Employed War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 797 Thanks: 16 Thanked 341 Times in 53 Posts Social Networking	Re: I Love PHP. What Do You Love? I once contributed to a fork of LOLCode
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09-01-2008, 01:15 AM	#41
MikeHayes HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Amsterdam , Netherlands. Posts: 156 Thanks: 3 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Contact Info	Re: I Love PHP. What Do You Love? I'm glad I'm not the only one to mention ... COBOL. Then there's IBM Assembler and NCR Neat/3. Those were the days!! I've just finished revisiting COBOL by writing a system that analysed a survey questionaire - HTML form - and produced stats. Great fun to discover that after 34 years I could still do it. Mike The Mike Hayes Total Info Site

09-01-2008, 03:27 PM	#43
Dan Grossman Happily Self-Employed War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 797 Thanks: 16 Thanked 341 Times in 53 Posts Social Networking	Re: I Love PHP. What Do You Love? PHP began as a set of Perl scripts
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09-01-2008, 11:50 PM	#44
Emilian HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: , , USA. Posts: 187 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: I Love PHP. What Do You Love? Python/Django is what I am interested in right now. Very handy, very quick to develop.
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09-03-2008, 10:23 AM	#45
jallen001 JWAllen Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Riverside, CA Posts: 64 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Contact Info	Re: I Love PHP. What Do You Love? C# and ASP.NET, SQL Server 2005. I like PHP too, but only for small scripts like collecting email addresses or for PayPal IPN. Windows hosting accounts used to be more than Linux based, but now they seem to be equal. I get clients that want me to use either of those languages, so it doesn't matter much to me.
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09-06-2008, 05:06 AM	#46
Aj Wilson www.ClickMeLink.com War Room Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia. Posts: 581 Thanks: 58 Thanked 96 Times in 64 Posts Contact Info	Re: I Love PHP. What Do You Love? I love Flash... and I love mud cake... and I love Flash... and Im really suprised Im the only one here? Flash and php play nicely together... just like mud cake and milk
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09-17-2008, 03:28 PM	#47
doylesoft HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: American Fork, Utah, U.S.A. Posts: 260 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 17 Thanked 28 Times in 20 Posts Social Networking	Re: I Love PHP. What Do You Love? Visual Basic 6. It can do anything C++ can do and easier. It's 10 years old now, but I will hang onto it as long as it still works under new versions of Windows.
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09-18-2008, 10:28 AM	#49
elletarchan Warrior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: I Love PHP. What Do You Love? I have a daytime job as a systems developer and over the years I have gone through many different programming languages and script languages... too many to even try to list. My current "favourites" are Java and C#, Pascal has always a big place in my heart. I think PHP is nice enough for web-scripts, it's nowhere the best or prettiest, but you can whip up a PHP script and have it working on a multitude of hosts very easy. Releasing "public" web-software that requires a JVM or .NET limits the customer base radically...