Bluehost or Hostgator?

mun · 07-19-2010, 04:28 PM

I have had to ask you guys this cos I just cant seem to shift eitherway.

TO go for bluehost or hostgator, it is basically for a portfolio site made in WP. It will have videos images and also interactive content in flash.

I have been searching thrugh the Hostgator features list and I can't see flash listed anywhere?

Anyone know if Hostgator supports flash?

mun · 07-19-2010, 05:49 PM

Ok I have decided to go for Bluehost since they have flash support as well as video streaming support. However I cannot register a .co.uk domain on there.

Having spoken to them just moments ago , I have been told to register the name and then point it to their servers.

I have no idea how to do this? could anyone point me to the right guide or person who may be able to aid me with this task?

Ken Durham · 07-19-2010, 06:59 PM

An example would be to buy your domain (not hosting) at Godaddy. Once you do this you can set your A record via Godaddy's DNS Management->Total DNS control, to point to the IP address of where you are hosting the files. There are other settings (such as email server (mx record) and aliases(CName)) to set also.

You would have to ask your "Site hosting provider" what everything should be set to. So you might get everything ready, be on the Total DNS control page, and then call Bluehost to guide you one line at a time.

Note that changes in DNS can take up to 48 hours to take effect. It is usually only seems to take about 15 minutes when I make changes though.

kohashi · 07-19-2010, 09:57 PM

Flash is executed on a client's computer. You are simply hosting a flash file, as long as they can access the file it shouldn't matter where it is hosted. BlueHost and HostGator would both support this functionality.

christian00 · 07-20-2010, 03:42 AM

I think, both web hosting sites are good enough. But I think there are still other web hosting sites that can really help you. But still Bluehost is a great choice. If you change your mind about your chosen hosting site, try this link, freewebsitemaker.co.uk, they have the list of all sites that are top ranking. That I think will help you decide on what site is good than the others.

henare · 07-20-2010, 03:55 AM

I do use bluehost for hosting my site, till now no problem

And regarding the domain name Namecheap is also pretty good and you can get .co.uk domain name there.

Just point the domain name server (DNS) of the bluehost, at the time of booking the domain name or you can also changed it later.

If you need help for namecheap just ask, i will able to help

Tomos Wyn · 07-20-2010, 08:14 AM

Something that I never do is register a domain with a hosting package, in case things go wrong.

I'd suggest using namecheap.com for your domains, and then point the dns to your hosting account. If your unsure about how to do this with namecheap, they have an interactive demo here: NameCheap.com - Demo: Changing DNS for your domain (Interactive Demos) - Knowledgebase

mun · 07-20-2010, 02:19 PM

Thanks everyone, I was thiking of registering with 123-reg but namecheap is coming up alot so I will give that one a go.

If I get stuck on the technical bits of pointing the address to the server I will let you know.

As for the flash bit thanks for clearing up that is run on the viewers PC and not on the server.
Although I did read that hostgator does not support flash somewhere on their on site. I think when I did a search on help topics.

From my point of view I think BH and HG are pretty much balanced out. Could go either way without any difference probably.

vem · 07-21-2010, 08:34 AM

In my experience hostgator stands out on support and overall uptime and ease of use.

mun · 07-21-2010, 09:48 AM

Yes, I have been suggested hostgator above all, however I was a lil worried about the no flash support which I read somewhere on their help forums.

I like to create interactive flash applications in my spare time.
Someone has mentioned that flash runs on users computers so I not quite sure what the the no flash support actually was refering to.

CarloD. · 07-21-2010, 10:38 AM

neither, I feel the servers are to crowded.
try site5.

professor · 07-21-2010, 11:14 AM

I would prefer to use hostgator as its a very good panel and very easy to understand all and they have good support too

mun · 07-21-2010, 01:08 PM

Yes, I do like Hostgator, I need to speak to them about what Flash streaming refers to, if its flash video streaming or interactive applications being used by user.

They have said THIS on their info section.

Unless someone here know the answer to this?

Also thanks for suggesting Site5 it looks interesting. i can't find any info on video streaming or Flash use on their site though.

harveyjerry · 07-23-2010, 02:46 AM

I have never personally used but I hear good things at once. You can search in google to find businesses, but generally only found in Articles 1 to a million customers who are angry and complain, not many people praising the good service.

uzomaeze · 07-23-2010, 03:45 AM

let me just say briefly I will go for bluehost, they are simply amazing

Ori_G · 07-23-2010, 08:21 AM

Let me pu tin my 2 cents - I use hostgator and **LOVE** them (and I actually moved over to them from bluehost ... It was a couple of years ago, so I don't even remember why anymore, though, sorry).

Their service has been perfect (you're usually talking to a support rep within 5 minutes if you call - I can't say the same AT ALL for bluehost), their uptime is exceptional and their packages are cheap (especially if you sign up as an affiliate and get back your $50 for signing yourself up.)

Hope this helps

mun · 07-23-2010, 03:58 PM

I will be going for HostGator, I just got off Live Chat and got things a little cleared up.

They do infact support flash in the sense of SWF files on webpages for interactive content, they however do not support flash AV streaming (FLV) on shared hosting but do so on VPS and dedicated servers.

Will be purchasing my package a little later today.

bool · 07-23-2010, 04:10 PM

I used to have an account at hostmonster.com (they are the same people than bluehost) but some months ago I decided to try something else. I searched practically every forum and post I could find and my conclusions were:

Hostgator is better than hostmonster, but it costs a little more.
Hostgator and hostmonster offer almost the same but I found more positive comments over hostgator.

At the end my options were to keep my hostmonster account (I had no problems with that) or choose between hostgator and a2hosting.

Finally I decided for a2hosting because I found a post in a forum were someone said that he had a facebook application which became popular and his account was suspended without advice when he was at hostgator. In contrast someone else had an account at a2hosting and they mailed him suggesting to upgrade before suspending his account.

That was what made my decision, I absolutely wouldn't want my account being suspended without prior advice.

I hope that helps.

mun · 07-23-2010, 04:14 PM

Hi yes, your input has been noted, advice taken

However this particular website is not intended for the masses so I think it should be ok.

Also if I am not mistaken I think Hostgator and bluehost allow backups to be made? I assume this is the process of downloading your entire site and all a associated files onto your personal computer?

But in light of your experience of sudden account suspensions, I think it might not be a bad aidea to have a backup host , just in case.

ptwain · 07-23-2010, 07:08 PM

I have accounts for both webhost, but Bluehost has exceptional customer service.

mun · 07-24-2010, 07:37 AM

Yes, I have been doing research on both, it seems they are pretty much balanced out, and provide the same things for most people.

During all the research I came accross media temple, their prices are higher compared to HG and BH, I don't know if they are in fact better equipped to charge such rates or maybe its their association with world recognised brands that allow the higher rates.

They seem quite though at first glance.

pmk95 · 07-24-2010, 08:45 AM

Hostgator is best host

mun · 07-24-2010, 10:46 AM

Hi, umm thanks for your input.

Itamar · 07-25-2010, 12:24 AM

I've personally worked with both and they are both good
Flash is not something that will ever be mentioned as a rule of thumb.
Flash is just a simple as loading HTML these days. If you can load up an html page from your hosting which is pretty trivial (nobody writes that right ? ;-)) then you can load Flash for sure.

mun · 07-25-2010, 04:27 AM

Itamar thanks for the info, in my head I still had flash as a "can this host handle it?" kind of thing. Come to think of it you are quite right, it should be an easy thing to do these days, if computers can fly a space shuttle then they can sure as hell play a flash file :P

mun · 07-25-2010, 05:58 AM

I have come accross some information (which looks reliable) that could affect the decision of those wanting to choose between Hostgator and Bluehost.

According to the website (of which the link I have totally lost now, but will try re-find the link as this is their info), Hostgator allows adult sites on their servers and Bluehost does not.

May not seem of great importantce, BUT! it is, especially for those doing international business.

Some (maybe several) international countries do not allow pornographic sites to be accessed and thus block the IP addresses of the servers (or something like that), making it impossible for people of that country to access that adult site. (There's probably a way around it though)

The problem is that if you do business internationally , especially within those countries that disallow such sites, and your site happens to be hosted on that same server, then your links to that country get cut off, no traffic from that country and no email communications from that country (due to the server being blocked).

Bluehost does not allow adult sites so the chances of a bluehost site getting blocked by those countries are lower.

Just thought I'de post this up incase someone is in need of this info, it probably does not matter if you want to do business locally.

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HERE is the link where I got the info.
Look at point No.1 on the page.

Mun.

inspiro · 07-25-2010, 08:58 AM

I don't think you could go wrong either way.

jamesisgo · 07-25-2010, 09:11 AM

One thing I would say about Hostgator is that their support is A1. Many a time they have gone in and fixed my issue straight off no questions asked and no charge.

I have not had experience with Bluehost

mexabet · 07-25-2010, 09:57 AM

Hi Mun,

You mentioned that Bluehost doesn't host adult sites. That's very correct! And you mentioned that chances of its hosted sites getting blocked is very remote. That's wrong!

I've been hosting all my sites at Bluehost for four (4) years now and I can say they're good. But when I traveled to China in 2008, I found out to my greatest surprise that my site was blocked. When I contacted Bluehost Support, they advised me to purchase a dedicated IP, which I did. I never blamed Bluehost for the issue, as it was way beyond them.

So, hosting adult sites is not the only thing that can get sites in that IP range blocked. Whichever side you choose to follow, Bluehost or Hostgator, bear in mind that getting a dedicated IP is a wise thing to do.

I am an affiliate of both Bluehost and Hostgator. If you can go through my affiliate link, that will be much appreciated.

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Bluehost does not allow adult sites so the chances of a bluehost site getting blocked by those countries are lower.

mun · 07-25-2010, 12:49 PM

Mexabet thanks for the correction, what I meant to say was the chances are lower on Bluehost for that particular reason (adult sites); but yes there are other things which can get the IP blocked.

As for having a dedicated IP, am I correct in saying that this is done through having VPS or a dedicated server?
Or can it be done using shared hosting too?

mexabet · 07-25-2010, 01:17 PM

Hi Mun,

I understand your point regarding Bluehost's stand on adult sites.

Concerning dedicated IP, Bluehost doesn't offer VPS or dedicated servers but they still offer dedicated IPs. That's what I use since the incident while I was in China. Hostgator offers shared hosting, VPS and dedicated servers.

The only issue I have with Bluehost is CPU throttling. They will not ban your account for consuming a lot of CPU resources, but your site will be throttled to the extent you feel like crying. This happens because my web directory attracts a lot of daily visits throughout the world. It happens only when the site starts getting so many visits. Apart from this issue, Bluehost is great.

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Originally Posted by mun

Mexabet thanks for the correction, what I meant to say was the chances are lower on Bluehost for that particular reason (adult sites); but yes there are other things which can get the IP blocked.

As for having a dedicated IP, am I correct in saying that this is done through having VPS or a dedicated server?
Or can it be done using shared hosting too?

mun · 07-25-2010, 01:25 PM

"CPU Throttling" I like the sound of that, first time I have heard that term, I assume that relates to how fast or slow the CPU runs at.

Are the webpage loading times heavily affected by this? or is the difference only of an additional few seconds?

cloudyguy10 · 07-25-2010, 01:43 PM

Hi Mun,

You can get a dedicated IP with Bluehost for 30 dollars for one year even on a shared hosting but Hostgator can give it for just 2 per month.

In terms of reliability and uptime, I have tried Bluehost but it has been stinking recently with DDoS attacks on their servers which happen to have been documented on my end via chat and since I was using a third party site uptime tracker, I know how long it took them to bring my site up and the revenue I've lost along with it. I've been tracking my site's uptime with them and lately, they could barely even hit 100% so I'm moving away from them once my one yr. hosting term ends and that's going in favor of Hostgator.

I have tried the latter on a reseller hosting site I have for a couple of months but had to stop a bit for fund issues but you can't find the quality of customer service with Hostgator from anywhere else and based on my experience with Bluehost, most of them are rude and even talks with multiple customers while they talk to you so it normally takes them long to resolve even a short and simple question compared to a dedicated chat agent on Hostgator.

mexabet · 07-25-2010, 01:47 PM

If you want to learn more about CPU Throttling, visit Bluehost Forum:
bluehostforum.com . Type in "cpu throttling" into the search input, to see what I mean. One of such threads is: CPU throttling . My username there is: "Justin". Check the links in my signature there to see if one correcsponds with the site in my signature here.

Yes, web page loading speed is heavily affected by CPU Throttling, as it slows loading pages on the browser a lot. Depending on traffic at a given time, this throttling can prevent a web page from loading for close to a minute or more. They implement it, in order not to allow sites that consume a lot of CPU to affect the loading time of other clients. Their approach is very reasonable! I love to remain with them because they're fantastic, but this issue is my major headache.

If your site doesn't have heavy traffic and you don't use to much server-side scripting, you don't need to worry.

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Originally Posted by mun

"CPU Throttling" I like the sound of that, first time I have heard that term, I assume that relates to how fast or slow the CPU runs at.

Are the webpage loading times heavily affected by this? or is the difference only of an additional few seconds?

cloudyguy10 · 07-25-2010, 01:54 PM

Heavy-traffic should also mean that your site's Alexa rank is below 100K. It much make sense to be credible.

mexabet · 07-25-2010, 02:03 PM

It doesn't necessarily mean so. So many people don't use Alexa. It's a tool that is used mainly by webmasters.

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Originally Posted by cloudyguy10

Heavy-traffic should also mean that your site's Alexa rank is below 100K. It much make sense to be credible.

ucajack · 07-26-2010, 01:31 AM

Well i would strongly recommend hostgator since they gave me the best customer support and i am extremely happy with them.

mun · 07-26-2010, 07:43 AM

Hi, I assume having a dedicated IP means that even if the server gets blocked I will still receive traffic from those countries since their accessing a different address?

Or would the site still be bocked?

Are there many advantages of having a dedicated IP?

mexabet · 07-26-2010, 07:48 AM

Dedicate IP means that only your sites connect to the Internet using that IP. So, only you can cause what will make the IP to be blocked.

The sites that are on the same server with yours use a different IP address, and when they're blocked, none of your sites will be affected.

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Originally Posted by mun

Hi, I assume having a dedicated IP means that even if the server gets blocked I will still receive traffic from those countries since their accessing a different address?

Or would the site still be bocked?

Are there many advantages of having a dedicated IP?

mun · 07-26-2010, 05:13 PM

It is quite interesting to see that I am finding very balanced amounts of information and replies about BH and HG, where Hostgator seems to be getting slighlty in front simply because of their top customer service.

Very Interesting Indeed.

HunterSnake · 07-26-2010, 06:24 PM

If I could only choose between big Blue and the Gator, I'd choose HostGator. However, I use Site5 exclusively and recommend them. =)

mexabet · 07-27-2010, 02:49 AM

Another thing worth considering is the malware issue that pops up every now and then at Bluehost.
See my own issue and chat session copy with Bluehost Support: Malware found on my sites

Then when someone posted that Matt Heaton's blog was hacked, the MODs quickly closed the thread without denying the allegation: Has Matt's blog been hacked? . If the Bluehost founder's site can be hacked, every other site they host can as well.

I really don't have anything against Bluehost, but I want you to get a very balanced view from clients who are experiencing their services.

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Originally Posted by mun

It is quite interesting to see that I am finding very balanced amounts of information and replies about BH and HG, where Hostgator seems to be getting slighlty in front simply because of their top customer service.

Very Interesting Indeed.

mun · 07-27-2010, 03:35 AM

Mexabet,
If Bluehost has security issues like that then hostgator is the clear choice, I would not want my sites to be harmed especially through the host's lack of good defence measures.

HunterSnake,
thanks for pointing me to Site5, it looks interesting and I might just host some of my sites on there once I get around to putting them up, to see if they suit my needs.
How do you feel about their support and response times? (I'll probably get a biased answer since you use them exclusively

).

mexabet · 07-27-2010, 05:38 AM

I'm planning to join HostGator as a reseller when I get enough money. I'm very worried about CPU throttling as well as my sites getting hacked again. The last time the hacking occurred, it took me several days to remove all the malicious iframes from all my sites' HTML footers.

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Originally Posted by mun

Mexabet,
If Bluehost has security issues like that then hostgator is the clear choice, I would not want my sites to be harmed especially through the host's lack of good defence measures.

bgray · 07-27-2010, 05:54 AM

I use both to diversify but I prefer HostGator big time. I hear some complain but I have a lot of sites with them and never have any downtime or slow response issues.

mun · 07-27-2010, 09:12 AM

I've been thinking, Video streaming must be a big reason for CPU throttling.

In which case I assume having the files hosted on the save server as the site would put more pressure on the processing rather than having the video files stored else where?

mexabet · 07-27-2010, 09:58 AM

There's no video streaming on any of my sites. Many have said that when a host oversells, issues start cropping up. But I'm not certain if that's the reason why CPU throttling occurs at Bluehost.

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Originally Posted by mun

I've been thinking, Video streaming must be a big reason for CPU throttling.

In which case I assume having the files hosted on the save server as the site would put more pressure on the processing rather than having the video files stored else where?

mun · 07-27-2010, 02:17 PM

I suppose its the hardware getting a higher amount of work than it can handle, and I assume that's why measures like CPU throttling need to be put in place, to balance things out.

mexabet · 07-27-2010, 04:14 PM

I think you're right, though I haven't dived into finding the facts deeply.

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Originally Posted by mun

I suppose its the hardware getting a higher amount of work than it can handle, and I assume that's why measures like CPU throttling need to be put in place, to balance things out.

RRigamonti · 07-27-2010, 04:42 PM

I use both Bluehost and Hostgator. I can say Hostgator has no problem to host sites of every kind ( adult for example ) and it is quite fast.
But Bluehost has strongest servers and their cpanel has more options than Hosgator ( they have SimpleScripts, and if you need to install Magento you will LOVE it).
Anyway they are quite similar if you don't have particular exigence. If you need a better software equipedd server go for bluehost. In my experience they are a little bit more professional than Hostgator. Hostgator looks more to numbers, Bluehost looks for quality. Even if the difference is not so big.

07-19-2010, 04:28 PM	#1
mun Mun Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: UK Posts: 143 Thanks: 8 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Bluehost or Hostgator? I have had to ask you guys this cos I just cant seem to shift eitherway. TO go for bluehost or hostgator, it is basically for a portfolio site made in WP. It will have videos images and also interactive content in flash. I have been searching thrugh the Hostgator features list and I can't see flash listed anywhere? Anyone know if Hostgator supports flash?
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07-19-2010, 05:49 PM	#2
mun Mun Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: UK Posts: 143 Thanks: 8 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Bluehost it is Ok I have decided to go for Bluehost since they have flash support as well as video streaming support. However I cannot register a .co.uk domain on there. Having spoken to them just moments ago , I have been told to register the name and then point it to their servers. I have no idea how to do this? could anyone point me to the right guide or person who may be able to aid me with this task?
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07-19-2010, 06:59 PM	#3
Ken Durham Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Chesterton, IN Posts: 923 Thanks: 129 Thanked 193 Times in 153 Posts	Re: Bluehost or Hostgator? An example would be to buy your domain (not hosting) at Godaddy. Once you do this you can set your A record via Godaddy's DNS Management->Total DNS control, to point to the IP address of where you are hosting the files. There are other settings (such as email server (mx record) and aliases(CName)) to set also. You would have to ask your "Site hosting provider" what everything should be set to. So you might get everything ready, be on the Total DNS control page, and then call Bluehost to guide you one line at a time. Note that changes in DNS can take up to 48 hours to take effect. It is usually only seems to take about 15 minutes when I make changes though.
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kohashi Warrior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Bluehost or Hostgator? Flash is executed on a client's computer. You are simply hosting a flash file, as long as they can access the file it shouldn't matter where it is hosted. BlueHost and HostGator would both support this functionality.

07-20-2010, 03:42 AM	#5
christian00 Warrior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Bluehost or Hostgator? I think, both web hosting sites are good enough. But I think there are still other web hosting sites that can really help you. But still Bluehost is a great choice. If you change your mind about your chosen hosting site, try this link, freewebsitemaker.co.uk, they have the list of all sites that are top ranking. That I think will help you decide on what site is good than the others.

07-20-2010, 03:55 AM	#6
henare Active Warrior Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 43 Thanks: 9 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Bluehost or Hostgator? I do use bluehost for hosting my site, till now no problem And regarding the domain name Namecheap is also pretty good and you can get .co.uk domain name there. Just point the domain name server (DNS) of the bluehost, at the time of booking the domain name or you can also changed it later. If you need help for namecheap just ask, i will able to help

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Tomos Wyn HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Wales, UK Posts: 125 Thanks: 10 Thanked 20 Times in 18 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Bluehost or Hostgator? Something that I never do is register a domain with a hosting package, in case things go wrong. I'd suggest using namecheap.com for your domains, and then point the dns to your hosting account. If your unsure about how to do this with namecheap, they have an interactive demo here: NameCheap.com - Demo: Changing DNS for your domain (Interactive Demos) - Knowledgebase
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07-20-2010, 02:19 PM	#8
mun Mun Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: UK Posts: 143 Thanks: 8 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Bluehost or Hostgator? Thanks everyone, I was thiking of registering with 123-reg but namecheap is coming up alot so I will give that one a go. If I get stuck on the technical bits of pointing the address to the server I will let you know. As for the flash bit thanks for clearing up that is run on the viewers PC and not on the server. Although I did read that hostgator does not support flash somewhere on their on site. I think when I did a search on help topics. From my point of view I think BH and HG are pretty much balanced out. Could go either way without any difference probably.
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vem Active Warrior Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 49 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Bluehost or Hostgator? In my experience hostgator stands out on support and overall uptime and ease of use.

07-21-2010, 09:48 AM	#10
mun Mun Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: UK Posts: 143 Thanks: 8 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Bluehost or Hostgator? Yes, I have been suggested hostgator above all, however I was a lil worried about the no flash support which I read somewhere on their help forums. I like to create interactive flash applications in my spare time. Someone has mentioned that flash runs on users computers so I not quite sure what the the no flash support actually was refering to.
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professor Warrior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: , , India. Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Contact Info	Re: Bluehost or Hostgator? I would prefer to use hostgator as its a very good panel and very easy to understand all and they have good support too

07-21-2010, 01:08 PM	#13
mun Mun Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: UK Posts: 143 Thanks: 8 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Bluehost or Hostgator? Yes, I do like Hostgator, I need to speak to them about what Flash streaming refers to, if its flash video streaming or interactive applications being used by user. They have said THIS on their info section. Unless someone here know the answer to this? Also thanks for suggesting Site5 it looks interesting. i can't find any info on video streaming or Flash use on their site though.
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mun Mun Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: UK Posts: 143 Thanks: 8 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Bluehost or Hostgator? I will be going for HostGator, I just got off Live Chat and got things a little cleared up. They do infact support flash in the sense of SWF files on webpages for interactive content, they however do not support flash AV streaming (FLV) on shared hosting but do so on VPS and dedicated servers. Will be purchasing my package a little later today.
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07-23-2010, 04:10 PM	#18
bool Warrior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Bluehost or Hostgator? I used to have an account at hostmonster.com (they are the same people than bluehost) but some months ago I decided to try something else. I searched practically every forum and post I could find and my conclusions were: Hostgator is better than hostmonster, but it costs a little more. Hostgator and hostmonster offer almost the same but I found more positive comments over hostgator. At the end my options were to keep my hostmonster account (I had no problems with that) or choose between hostgator and a2hosting. Finally I decided for a2hosting because I found a post in a forum were someone said that he had a facebook application which became popular and his account was suspended without advice when he was at hostgator. In contrast someone else had an account at a2hosting and they mailed him suggesting to upgrade before suspending his account. That was what made my decision, I absolutely wouldn't want my account being suspended without prior advice. I hope that helps.

07-23-2010, 04:14 PM	#19
mun Mun Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: UK Posts: 143 Thanks: 8 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Bluehost or Hostgator? Hi yes, your input has been noted, advice taken However this particular website is not intended for the masses so I think it should be ok. Also if I am not mistaken I think Hostgator and bluehost allow backups to be made? I assume this is the process of downloading your entire site and all a associated files onto your personal computer? But in light of your experience of sudden account suspensions, I think it might not be a bad aidea to have a backup host , just in case.
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07-23-2010, 07:08 PM	#20
ptwain HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 210 Thanks: 1 Thanked 15 Times in 14 Posts	Re: Bluehost or Hostgator? I have accounts for both webhost, but Bluehost has exceptional customer service.

07-24-2010, 07:37 AM	#21
mun Mun Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: UK Posts: 143 Thanks: 8 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Bluehost or Hostgator? Yes, I have been doing research on both, it seems they are pretty much balanced out, and provide the same things for most people. During all the research I came accross media temple, their prices are higher compared to HG and BH, I don't know if they are in fact better equipped to charge such rates or maybe its their association with world recognised brands that allow the higher rates. They seem quite though at first glance.
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07-24-2010, 08:45 AM	#22
pmk95 Warrior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: LK Posts: 20 Thanks: 7 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Social Networking	Re: Bluehost or Hostgator? Hostgator is best host

07-24-2010, 10:46 AM	#23
mun Mun Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: UK Posts: 143 Thanks: 8 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Bluehost or Hostgator? Hi, umm thanks for your input.
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07-25-2010, 12:24 AM	#24
Itamar Warrior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 20 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Bluehost or Hostgator? I've personally worked with both and they are both good Flash is not something that will ever be mentioned as a rule of thumb. Flash is just a simple as loading HTML these days. If you can load up an html page from your hosting which is pretty trivial (nobody writes that right ? ;-)) then you can load Flash for sure.

07-25-2010, 04:27 AM	#25
mun Mun Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: UK Posts: 143 Thanks: 8 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Bluehost or Hostgator? Itamar thanks for the info, in my head I still had flash as a "can this host handle it?" kind of thing. Come to think of it you are quite right, it should be an easy thing to do these days, if computers can fly a space shuttle then they can sure as hell play a flash file :P
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07-25-2010, 05:58 AM	#26
mun Mun Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: UK Posts: 143 Thanks: 8 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Bluehost or Hostgator? Adult sites affecting business I have come accross some information (which looks reliable) that could affect the decision of those wanting to choose between Hostgator and Bluehost. According to the website (of which the link I have totally lost now, but will try re-find the link as this is their info), Hostgator allows adult sites on their servers and Bluehost does not. May not seem of great importantce, BUT! it is, especially for those doing international business. Some (maybe several) international countries do not allow pornographic sites to be accessed and thus block the IP addresses of the servers (or something like that), making it impossible for people of that country to access that adult site. (There's probably a way around it though) The problem is that if you do business internationally , especially within those countries that disallow such sites, and your site happens to be hosted on that same server, then your links to that country get cut off, no traffic from that country and no email communications from that country (due to the server being blocked). Bluehost does not allow adult sites so the chances of a bluehost site getting blocked by those countries are lower. Just thought I'de post this up incase someone is in need of this info, it probably does not matter if you want to do business locally. -------- Added -------- HERE is the link where I got the info. Look at point No.1 on the page. Mun.
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07-25-2010, 08:58 AM	#27
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07-25-2010, 09:11 AM	#28
jamesisgo Warrior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Ireland Posts: 13 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Bluehost or Hostgator? One thing I would say about Hostgator is that their support is A1. Many a time they have gone in and fixed my issue straight off no questions asked and no charge. I have not had experience with Bluehost
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07-25-2010, 12:49 PM	#30
mun Mun Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: UK Posts: 143 Thanks: 8 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Bluehost or Hostgator? Mexabet thanks for the correction, what I meant to say was the chances are lower on Bluehost for that particular reason (adult sites); but yes there are other things which can get the IP blocked. As for having a dedicated IP, am I correct in saying that this is done through having VPS or a dedicated server? Or can it be done using shared hosting too?
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07-25-2010, 01:25 PM	#32
mun Mun Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: UK Posts: 143 Thanks: 8 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Bluehost or Hostgator? "CPU Throttling" I like the sound of that, first time I have heard that term, I assume that relates to how fast or slow the CPU runs at. Are the webpage loading times heavily affected by this? or is the difference only of an additional few seconds?
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07-25-2010, 01:43 PM	#33
cloudyguy10 Warrior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Bluehost or Hostgator? Hi Mun, You can get a dedicated IP with Bluehost for 30 dollars for one year even on a shared hosting but Hostgator can give it for just 2 per month. In terms of reliability and uptime, I have tried Bluehost but it has been stinking recently with DDoS attacks on their servers which happen to have been documented on my end via chat and since I was using a third party site uptime tracker, I know how long it took them to bring my site up and the revenue I've lost along with it. I've been tracking my site's uptime with them and lately, they could barely even hit 100% so I'm moving away from them once my one yr. hosting term ends and that's going in favor of Hostgator. I have tried the latter on a reseller hosting site I have for a couple of months but had to stop a bit for fund issues but you can't find the quality of customer service with Hostgator from anywhere else and based on my experience with Bluehost, most of them are rude and even talks with multiple customers while they talk to you so it normally takes them long to resolve even a short and simple question compared to a dedicated chat agent on Hostgator.

07-25-2010, 01:54 PM	#35
cloudyguy10 Warrior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Bluehost or Hostgator? Heavy-traffic should also mean that your site's Alexa rank is below 100K. It much make sense to be credible.
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07-26-2010, 01:31 AM	#37
ucajack HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 205 Thanks: 4 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Bluehost or Hostgator? Well i would strongly recommend hostgator since they gave me the best customer support and i am extremely happy with them.
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07-26-2010, 07:43 AM	#38
mun Mun Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: UK Posts: 143 Thanks: 8 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Bluehost or Hostgator? Hi, I assume having a dedicated IP means that even if the server gets blocked I will still receive traffic from those countries since their accessing a different address? Or would the site still be bocked? Are there many advantages of having a dedicated IP?
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07-26-2010, 05:13 PM	#40
mun Mun Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: UK Posts: 143 Thanks: 8 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Bluehost or Hostgator? It is quite interesting to see that I am finding very balanced amounts of information and replies about BH and HG, where Hostgator seems to be getting slighlty in front simply because of their top customer service. Very Interesting Indeed.
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