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Old 03-09-2009, 11:15 PM   #1
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I was talking to this guy who has a successful programming business and he only uses photoshop for designing his websites.

What do you do? I personally use dreamweaver but there really is a lot more to that program that I will ever use, so I am thinkin' I may try something else.

Any thoughts?

Oops... By the way I am talking from a programming standpoint. Code is code, so if it is being setup in dreamweaver is it easier to work with than photoshop?

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I've been using Dreamweaver and Fireworks.


Dreamweaver is a html/css editor

Photoshop is for photo editing

These are two different softwares
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Hi drewanderson...

I use both Photoshop CS4 Extended and Dreamweaver CS4 to design my sites and the sites of my clients.

The cool thing about using PS is that you can design the site, slice the PS image using the Slice tool, and then save it as a HTML file using File-->Save For Web and Devices.

PS will create an image folder and the HTML file. This is cool because for those individuals that like to "view source" to "steal" layouts, they won't be able to because most of the HTML coding will be image files that was created in Photoshop.

However, I use Dreamweaver CS4 in case I need to hyperlink a part of the image, put in an "opt in" box, etc.

I also use Dreamweaver for designing sites that have long salesletters. I haven't found out how to do a salesletter site in PS, but I will, if it can be done.

I can design sites...but I need a good copywriter to write the salesletter. I am not great at writing killer salesletters. I'm OK, but not great like some warriors on here.

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Hey Drew,

I've been building web applications for going on 12 years now. Dreamweaver has been top of my list for many of those years as it has a great WYSIWYG interface which makes laying out websites real easy (although I prefer working in code mode myself.)

For more complex line of business application I use Microsoft Visual Studio, ASP.NET and C# as creating complex business applications needs a good object orientated approach to design.

These days however, with the phenomenal growth of open source blog and CMS platforms, I create all my niche market and money sites using either Drupal or the Wordpress platform. They are both extremely well optimized for SEO, don'r require and coding, have massive template / theme libraries and a huge number of additional modules you can plug in which enables me to setup a niche site in under an hour.

Photoshop is by far the best graphics tool for photo editing logo creation etc, but it's expensive, a good free alternative is Paint.NET or Gimp.org

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I was talking to this guy who has a successful programming business and he only uses photoshop for designing his websites.
I think the reason he said that, is that the design step can only be handled by an editor capable of making the type of graphics that Photoshop is capable of. To most professionals Dreamweaver is a tool, but not really a design tool.

I've moved away from using Dreamweaver, but the same is true of me: most of the designs I am involved in start in Photoshop, then I code them to make a final product.

The idea that Dreamweaver is a "one stop shop" for all your web design needs, is completely baseless.

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The idea that Dreamweaver is a "one stop shop" for all your web design needs, is completely baseless.
Yeah I agree. I have noticed that they include a hellacious amount of tools that would take an incredible amount of time to learn all of them and even then there is no reason you would ever need to use them all.

I have designed blueprints on a program called AutoCAD AutoDesk that is similar to DreamWeaver in it's complexity and they include so much that it would almost make more sense to break the product up and let people choose what features they need so that the cost is lowered and they can tweak the parts that people really use a lot.

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Old 03-10-2009, 06:51 PM   #7
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Use photoshop for the design.

When it comes to building nothing beats getting your hands dirty, learning HTML, css, javascript etc, and coding the thing by hand.
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Old 03-11-2009, 10:55 PM   #8
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P.S. I would have to say that the Snagit software is such an easy and wonderful tool to have in your arsenal if you don't already have it. It helps with anything and everything from what I have experienced. Any thoughts on that? Plus, it works easily with both Dreamweaver and Photoshop.

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i always use photoshop for designing the "aesthetics" of my site - but the coding/development i normally use either notepad and/or dreamweaver around a Joomla core

building a site purely from images will be detrimental to any onsite optimization you intended to implement...

i cant see how that guy with a successful web business would be able to manage doing websites just with photoshop? Doesn't add up... he would at the very least need to have some kind of code editor if not at least notepad... photoshop is not a an efficient way to do web development as far as i am concerned...


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PS - For designing
Dreamweaver - For coding

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Old 03-16-2009, 06:44 AM   #11
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I agree you need to learn both one will compliment the other, but i wouldn't go down the route of trying to set up websites directly from slicing graphics in photoshop, the results arent very good and the site will take a long time to load.

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Default Re: DreamWeaver Or Photoshop?

you can use photoshop also for designing but in dreamweaver making templates & giving effects are more convienient. I personally prefer Dreamweaver.

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"90 Second Website Builder" is great - not an html editor, but does a lot of the same things photoshop and dreamweaver do by click and drag. It's great for building sites quickly.
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Also, it's a fraction of the cost - about $90 with three extra downloads.
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Default Re: DreamWeaver Or Photoshop?

For an editor you can also checkout netbeans you can set it up for coding php/jsp/ruby and so on. It is free and pretty solid platform i think there is a wysiwyg. I personally only use the code mode. Photoshop is pretty good for handling graphics.

You could also try eclipse out
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Dream Weaver and photo shop very good program best out there.
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P.S. I would have to say that the Snagit software is such an easy and wonderful tool to have in your arsenal if you don't already have it. It helps with anything and everything from what I have experienced. Any thoughts on that? Plus, it works easily with both Dreamweaver and Photoshop.
I do like Snagit.. Been using DW and Photoshop for many years now, but if I want to grab an image really quickly and throw it on a site, I just use Snagit. It was created by the same folks who created Camtasia I believe. I got the bundle for like $324 (both snagit and camtasia studio) Love their products.

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Photoshop and Dreamweaver is different software, but you can combine them to build your sites. You can use firework too..

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You can use Photoshop for making a website design,

once you create design, then make slices and export it as html. then you can use it in dreamweaver for adding text, meta tags and other functions
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I have only used Dreamweaver and I'm not so experienced but i find it easy to use
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Hi all!

Dreamweaver software is ideal for web designers, web developers, and visual designers.
Photoshop is ideal for:These two softwares are neccessary for web designers, so you can change and try on the photoshop. Maybe it will help you to work better.

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dreamweaver complements photoshop...

they are both excellent tools
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Yeah in my opinion the two programs work hand in hand with one and another, I use both.
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dreamweaver is complete crap. go photoshop
This post is complete crap... Photoshop does not do everything dreamweaver can do, so what are you specifically talking about? We aren't talking about editing party photos to post on facebook... We are talking about building web pages.

If you are new to this post please scroll up and read the first few. If you just post a one liner response that makes our I.Q.'s lower, then say it out loud to yourself and don't post anything

It would be cool to hear from people that have actual specific examples. There have been some great posts already, but a lot of junk too.

Let's keep it smart. thanks

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For me I use Dreamweaver.

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I use photoshop for editing photos and I sometimes use Dreamweaver for advanced webpage editing. I personally didn't even know that you could use photoshop to design webpages.
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Both of them are somethign different photoshop is an image editing software. Dreamweaver is an script editor.
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Thank you for telling us about Paint.NET and Gimp.org. I will try them as I can't afford Photoshop right now. Are these 2 as hard to learn as Photoshop?

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I've been building web applications for going on 12 years now. Dreamweaver has been top of my list for many of those years as it has a great WYSIWYG interface which makes laying out websites real easy (although I prefer working in code mode myself.)

For more complex line of business application I use Microsoft Visual Studio, ASP.NET and C# as creating complex business applications needs a good object orientated approach to design.

These days however, with the phenomenal growth of open source blog and CMS platforms, I create all my niche market and money sites using either Drupal or the Wordpress platform. They are both extremely well optimized for SEO, don'r require and coding, have massive template / theme libraries and a huge number of additional modules you can plug in which enables me to setup a niche site in under an hour.

Photoshop is by far the best graphics tool for photo editing logo creation etc, but it's expensive, a good free alternative is Paint.NET or Gimp.org

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I use a combination of both..couldn't imagine a whole site in IMages would think it would load VERY slow and is outdated when you could use CSS to place them..

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I have used both as well. I prefer Dreamweaver to most other programs for simple editing of HTML. I have only used photoshop for picture editing. I have seen good headers done in photoshop. Those were impressive.
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I use both Dreamweaver and Photoshop for my sites and for those of my clients. For my affiliate marketing sites, I'm also using XSitePro which is a great program for people who have little or no knowledge of html. I can create a site with XSitePro in a fraction of the times it takes in Dreamweaver.

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I totally think DW is easier. I have been using it for years and I tried to do a site with PS but just couldn't get my head wrapped around it.

I don't hand write my code, at least not all of it. I use the WYSIWYG part of DW and go into code view to do specific work. I could do it all by hand but just don't see the point.

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Using photoshop to design websites?? thats news to me i though it was used to design and edit the images and those images,banners and logos will be used by dreamweaver to create the website.
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i use macromedia homesite ++ for coding and macromedia firework for designing . but firework and photoshop not good thing to use maquee tools. i use corel is better .
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Using photoshop to create the code for your website is not the best option. Chances are it will be image heavy and have significant impact on site speed and loading. Dreamweaver is a far more efficient option.
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Okay...I have to reply....

I have been developing sites, now for over 15 years and I still have an original copy of dreamweaver and photoshop on my old 486...

Photoshop is fantastic for prototypes, if anyone wants my layered files that I use, I will toss them to you.

I am only speaking for myself, but when I create a site from scratch, it's great to keep myself in line from the get go with my "acceptable with and height" frame....from there I go nuts and then just cut and code after the client signs off on the prototype...

A bit old school, I realize, but fireworks and the like with the naming convention has never been a great help...

Download the free trial for both, but just be careful to use the tools as they were meant to be used.

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I always use photoshop and frontpage to make my website.
After i design my work at photoshop, slice it, save it. Then i go to frontpage to edit the website

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If you are looking for earning money with your wesites and look for ready mades choose Xsite Pro or Artisteer. I have both used Dreamweaver and Photoshop and I was sitting endless with these apps. Just my 2 cents.

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Photoshop and other graphic programs for the images, notepad for all code. Yes, notepad. I like to write all HTML/PHP code myself.

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Photoshop is only for grapics.
Dreamweaver is HTML/CSS/PHP/other prog. lang's./TXT/SQL/ whatever...

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I use Dreamweaver for coding and Gimp for Image/Banner design. Also, use Snagit for screen captures.

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I still use the Dreamweaver 8. Still does what I want.
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I personally use Photoshop cs3 extended for the graphic design for my website, then use Dreamweaver to build the site. As has been stated, they are two totally distinct tools. I personally have never designed an entire website in PS. Don't even know how feasible it would be as opposed to using two different tools specifically designed for two distinct purposes.

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I use them both. They are very good tools to work with.
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Lots of comparisons of dreamweaver to photoshop however they are two diferent kinds of programs. You create images in one and you create code in (html,css , php etc) in the other.

Long and short to the OP - your friend wasn't being accurate. I bet he does use something to code with even if its notepad. Yes Photoshop can put out code but youare going to end up with some text as an image which is inefficient and horrible for SEO.
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I favor Dreamweaver to almost other programs for elementary editing of HTML. I have only used photoshop for picture editing. I have checked good headers done in photoshop.

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Default Re: DreamWeaver Or Photoshop?

I have used both software packages and both are great for different sets of tasks.

Sure you can design sites in both Dreamweaver and Photoshop. But you get more power out of either one depending on what you want user to be able to do.

Are you a designer? Or you need to have everything perfect or in the exact place? I would go with photoshop. With photoshop you can design the layout just how you like it. You can then turn the photoshop into a website by either handing it to your fellow website developer or slicing and dicing the template up to be used on the site.

Do you like tweaking the code on your page? Do you like to have forms popup on the page? Then I would use dreamweaver. Dreamweaver has some great server side tools that would allow anyone to build a (ecommerce) website (from scratch!) in no time at all. Well maybe that's a bit of an exaggeration, but it does give you the ability to do it from within the software without any previous programming experience. Photoshop doesn't give you that.

I would recommend figuring out what you're going to use the software for. If you like to edit photos, go with photoshop, if you like tweaking websites, go with dreamweaver. (of course there are other tools out there than just these 2)
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Photoshop can create pretty decent websites but if you want to do anything more advanced than static pages with no dynamic effects you really need something like Dreamweaver.

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