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Need an IM software developer/programmer for partnership for a 6 figure software

by Gdetonator
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I have a new project of developing an affiliate marketing software which the primary function is to boost conversion rate and sales. The technology, idea and function of this software is very unique, new and have never been used elsewhere.

This project is going to be very big and it will be in high demand by affiliates due to it's function and best, from my lame programming sense I can say that it's going to be a tiny application and will be easy to code so it won't take more than a month and let's say 2 - 3 months tops.

I want this tool in 2 versions: the plugin version which will work with wordpress blogs and the php/html version which will work on traditional sites, I don't want to review the details of these amazing application here so that no one copies it. If you are a serious programmer/developer and you are very confident you can develop a tiny awesome application then PM me let's talk.

This will call for partnership and I promise you that if we work with my plan, we will be up for 5 figures each on WSO launch and 6 figures on main launch, if you are interested to do something big, just PM me.

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  • Profile picture of the author ussher
    If you want a programmer to work for free for 2 months on the promise that you can then sell the software that has been built, you had better offer something about your self.

    A great program does not sell its self. Why do you think you can sell it. Once the program is finished, is the programmers job finished and you will be responsible for all sales, marketing, advertising and all costs that are associated with them?
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  • Profile picture of the author mywebwork
    Originally Posted by Gdetonator View Post

    I promise you that if we work with my plan, we will be up for 5 figures each on WSO launch and 6 figures on main launch
    I'm curious - you don't seem to have a lot of posts here yet, so how are you able to "promise" your would-be programmer "5 figures" on a WSO launch? And if it's "5 figures each" then you are obviously talking about the WSO netting at least 20,000 dollars.

    Well there are certainly WSO's that have exceeded that amount of revenue not too many people achieve this with their first one.

    Then right after that you're promising at least 100,000 dollars on the product launch.

    Question - if for some unforeseen reason you fail to make these quotas are you going to offer your programmer his/her half of the 120,000 dollars anyway? And if this income is such a sure thing why not offer the developer a deposit of a few thousand dollars?

    Just curious how you intend to live up to these grandiose claims, I'm sure any developer interested in taking you up on your offer will be asking similar questions.

    Bill
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  • Profile picture of the author Subsonic
    I can jump in if you guarantee at least 100'000$ for me. 50% payment upfront and 50% when the program is published. I guess that it's not a problem because you're 100% sure that the program will make that much money

    Well actually I'm not interested in the project because you promise way too much before anything is even coded. By telling stories like that you won't get serious programmers and if you manage to get one you might possibly get scammed.

    To get serious programmers join you in the project you should tell them that "the project has lots of potential to make money so if you are interested in splitting profits, join me!" or something else. If you promise certain amounts of money you'll get in trouble. If you know that you're going to bank hard with the program you should pay the program initial fee (like suggested above) or monthly wage so it motivates the programmer to work.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gdetonator
    I'm not making empty promises and allow me to clearify a few stuffs.

    That won't be my first WSO becuase I have very awesome WSO coming up this week.

    The success of WSO is not how many posts you have, it's all about how many good reviews the software gets, the influence and personalities of the guys that reviewed the product on the forum (the kind of people that reviews your product) and the number of affiliates that promoted the WSO.

    And for the 6 figure promise, that one will only happen if the WSO is successful and it will only be successful if the product is good, this is not some kind of SEO plugin that is all rampard on the internet or anything like that, the function of this application is so unique and I have not seen any IM plugin that has the same feature and that is why I know it's going to be successful and bear in mind that it's a forecast estimate not exact values.

    And yes, I will handle all marketing and costs a A - Z. If you often recognize a good deal then you should know that this is one. PM if you are interested.
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  • Profile picture of the author ghrkhan
    I dont know should I be interested!!! I am asp.net expert I am sorry a really good offer is going to be missed.
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  • Profile picture of the author wayfarer
    Generally speaking, if you want to partner with a programmer, you need to have some financial resources. For example, I'm currently involved in a project in which I am going to be given some stock in the resulting company. I am being paid also.

    If you want a programmer to be committed to a project as a partner instead of simply a contractor (which is sometimes preferable if you want the project to succeed), the best thing to do is show that you're also committed to it, by committing some cash.

    I've frankly never heard of a project working out that started as you're hoping it to. Not that it has never worked, I'm just saying, the chances of success are very low. This is just from the point of an objective, third-party. Partnering with people you actually know is different.

    Good programmers have existing work, so committing to working on a project at no cost actually costs them money from their pockets. If you want to get someone that's halfway capable, you have to offer to pay them something, even if it's less than their normal rates. This way you will sound like a reasonable person, and skilled people will actually want to work with you.

    I'm just saying.
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  • Profile picture of the author wayfarer
    To illustrate my last point, take a look at this blog post: Ideas are just a multiplier of execution | Derek Sivers

    Let's assume your idea is absolutely brilliant. I'll offer you $20 for it, you tell me what it is, and then I'll go ahead and build it on my own...
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    • Profile picture of the author mywebwork
      Originally Posted by Gdetonator View Post

      That won't be my first WSO becuase I have very awesome WSO coming up this week.
      I assume you'll be sharing the results of the "very awesome WSO" with us on this thread later this week, as proof of your WSO sales ability? I wish you the best of luck with it and look forward to seeing the sales figures, as I'm sure anyone contemplating your offer would be as well.

      Originally Posted by Gdetonator View Post

      And for the 6 figure promise, that one will only happen if the WSO is successful and it will only be successful if the product is good, this is not some kind of SEO plugin that is all rampard on the internet or anything like that, the function of this application is so unique and I have not seen any IM plugin that has the same feature and that is why I know it's going to be successful and bear in mind that it's a forecast estimate not exact values.
      This extremely long sentence seems to contradict the "promise" you made in your initial post, does it not?


      Originally Posted by Gdetonator View Post

      If you often recognize a good deal then you should know that this is one.
      Actually I recognize a familiar offer seen often on this forum - "I need a programmer but don't want to pay them unless my idea succeeds". Sounds like a lot of risk for a software developer with no guarantee of making a dime if, by some miracle, the product is a failure.

      Originally Posted by wayfarer View Post

      If you want a programmer to be committed to a project as a partner instead of simply a contractor (which is sometimes preferable if you want the project to succeed), the best thing to do is show that you're also committed to it, by committing some cash.
      Same point I made earlier, as you are so assured of this products success you should have no problem paying a programmer at least a few thousand dollars to show your integrity.

      Originally Posted by wayfarer View Post

      Good programmers have existing work, so committing to working on a project at no cost actually costs them money from their pockets.
      You have already said this will take 2-3 months to complete. How is your programmer supposed to pay his/her bills, feed and shelter themselves and get the electricity and Internet connection they will need for 3 months without any money? That's asking a lot, is it not?

      Originally Posted by wayfarer View Post

      To illustrate my last point, take a look at this blog post: Ideas are just a multiplier of execution | Derek Sivers
      Totally awesome link wayfarer, thanks for sharing it! And it should also make Gdetonator very happy as well - even with So-So Execution if you actually do have a Great Idea it will net you 150,000, giving you the ability to rub it in my (and the other skeptics on this thread) face.

      Please understand, I'm NOT trying to knock your idea, you may indeed be on to something brilliant. But as a seasoned software developer I have heard this type of "offer" for many decades now, and have yet to see a single one of them end up being a good thing for the programmer.

      Perhaps yours will be the first. I wish you the best of success with it.

      Bill
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      • Profile picture of the author Gdetonator
        Originally Posted by mywebwork View Post


        This extremely long sentence seems to contradict the "promise" you made in your initial post, does it not?
        No, it doesn't contradict it... I was only making it clearer for any person to understand.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gdetonator
    ok... sure thing, once everything is up, I will share results as you requested.
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  • Profile picture of the author ussher
    I WISH my "Weak ideas" with "So So Execution" netted me $20,000.
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    • Profile picture of the author wayfarer
      Originally Posted by ussher View Post

      I WISH my "Weak ideas" with "So So Execution" netted me $20,000.
      Haha, yeah, me too. I guess when you're a multi-millionaire internet entrepreneur (the blogger I linked to is) $20,000 doesn't seem like much money, so why can't it be done even with so so execution of a weak idea?

      Maybe his weak ideas are our brilliant ones.
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  • Profile picture of the author telewarrior
    Hi,

    Consider using an NDA (non-disclosure agreement) or sharing ownership with an IM programmer type who wants to break into WSO's and is willing to put in the time. If you have it built and it is a game changer, consider doing more homework on the business of software development.

    One should make sure to be clear who owns what up front in writing as programmers normally own their code in lieu of agreements to the contrary. While I am certainly not a lawyer, copyright takes effect as soon as data is committed to some type of storage medium regardless of how transient. That makes the writer the owner immediately so pre-existing "work for hire" agreement, employment with disclosures, or licensing as an independent vendor is warranted.

    IM marketing skills, business analysis, market research, design of a "minimum viable product", project management, and operational control is likely more important to get right up front. Note that these tasks cost time ($) and need analysis at every step to validate the idea's viability. Changes are less costly earlier in the process. YMMV.

    Besides, it is the one who takes action and follows through that ends up dominating a niche (or creating one).

    Do you who made the next photocopier after XEROX ?

    Hopefully this helps others,

    Brett
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