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I am doing off-page for last 4 months, but still i cant able to find any improvement in ranking. What can i do????
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  • Profile picture of the author nik0
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    Originally Posted by SumangaliResidences View Post

    I am doing off-page for last 4 months, but still i cant able to find any improvement in ranking. What can i do????
    Can you first tell us what you did in the last 4 months?

    It's not unlikely you unintentionally penalized your own site already, in that case you start with removing/disavowing links and after that you can focus on new solid links.

    Some broad advice:

    1) Remove the anchor text links from your signature, if you want to link from there (makes no sense btw as this is an IM forum not a real estate forum) then use your URL as anchor, eg hxxp://www.sumangaliresidences.com, obvious replace the xx with tt, it's just so it won't convert to a hyperlink in this post.

    2) Your anchor profile mainly consists of money keywords like we call them, you need way more diversity, think of brand anchors like your domain name / URL, generic ones like Click here, Visit site, name anchors for example your first name and/or last name. Sentence anchors like "Check out our condo's at Suman Gali Residences" or with your keyword in it like: "seaview villa's in Chennai, only few left"

    3) According to Ahrefs your strongest links come from the Warrior Forum, that makes no sense as those are as weak as they can be, besides that they are nofollow so have no influence on your rankings (though they do have the ability to penalize you),

    4) Most of your links come from low quality web directories and social bookmark sites, ask the webmasters to remove them if they are on complete irrelevant directories and get rid of those bookmarks as well, if your request doesn't get honored you should disavow them.

    I understand you did a lot of effort to get links on 169 domains (or maybe you just bought a Fiverr blast), but those sites are far from ideal for you and thus it's no surprise you don't rank.

    When you clean up your links I expect that there's not a single legit link left, so you need to make a restart, and this time in a solid way instead of buying some gigs here and there or using spam softwares as that's what happened now.
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    • Profile picture of the author elcidofaguy
      Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

      It's not unlikely you unintentionally penalized your own site already, in that case you start with removing/disavowing links and after that you can focus on new solid links.
      BTW - I don't think that's great advice to jump to such conclusions and recommend disavowing... That should be the last thing you do... Even if your site is not penalized its gonna be on the radar... G's algo is going to be super sensitive to any future link building post disavow... and you've put yourself into a corner... Looks like you just read that out straight from a text book... and on to a parrot...
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      • Profile picture of the author nik0
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        Originally Posted by elcidofaguy View Post

        BTW - I don't think that's great advice to jump to such conclusions and recommend disavowing... That should be the last thing you do... Even if your site is not penalized its gonna be on the radar... G's algo is going to be super sensitive to any future link building post disavow... and you've put yourself into a corner... Looks like you just read that out straight from a text book... and on to a parrot...
        Lol do you even remember what you wrote in reply to the OP? Did you even take the time to check his backlink profile?

        Nope, nope.

        If yes then WOW, it's even worse here then I thought.

        Conspiracy theories are a great thing aren't they? When is WWIII going to happen again?

        What would you advice when you saw his backlink profile? Wait, wait wait cause it's the SANDBOX and watch your velocity real careful. What a bunch of crap dude.

        Link removal and disavowing are his only chance at this point.

        Freaking noobs here.
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        • Profile picture of the author elcidofaguy
          LMAO! It is so very obvious to the entire world that you don't know your head from your ass....

          Wow! You must of been up all night jerking off whilst crying your eyes out in order to put that together, as no sane, reasonable person would come out with BS like that....

          Where do I begin?

          1) You dispute that new domains are in the sandbox - LMAO!
          2) You do not think that one needs to watch link building velocity - LMAO!

          Okay lets go a little deeper.... You say:

          Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

          Link removal and disavowing are his only chance at this point.
          LMAO!!! Lets go back to your amazing SEO advice on #2

          - You state there are approx. 169 backlinks from domains built up over a 4 month period. And further that the strongest ones come from WF due to commenting on forums... And thus the website now has a penalty..... and that the only thing that can be done is to disavow...

          Are you nuts??? You still have not proven that the site has a penalty... LOL...

          So you dispute the following:

          - Disavowing should be the last thing you do.... You think its okay to just go ahead and do it... LMAO!
          - You disagree with my comment that after disavowing, G's algo becomes more sensitive... LMAO!

          By disavowing you are basically telling G - that yes I've been gaming the system... What do you think G's algo does after that?

          Even though I dont have the website details at hand as well as the link profile... Its very obvious that the backlinks accumulated so far are weak and that they don't come from bad neighbourhoods - spammy sites, BS content etc - as according to you they all relate to discussion forums or social bookmark sites....

          So it's likely that there is no penalty...! and that the course of action is to continue... I would say 1-2 really good authoritative links will give a great boost... together with sustained content building... but of course you being an ass would dispute that...

          With that said - If the originator of this thread provides details - I'm more than happy to look at the website, backlinking profile etc.

          As it is very obvious.... That your advice is not only wrong, but in fact dangerous.... You are a complete menace.... Your tagline is the biggest joke I've seen... SEO Made Easy! More like SEO My Ass... You are in fact a complete noob..... LOL.

          As you have insulted everyone and I mean everyone here on WF - why the hell are you posting here????.... As you think you are better than everyone I would suggest that you crawl back into the hole you came from....!!!! Seriously, get lost....
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          • Profile picture of the author nik0
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            Originally Posted by elcidofaguy View Post

            LMAO! It is so very obvious to the entire world that you don't know your head from your ass....
            Lol did you just waste a lot of time writing all that for nothing.

            You don't think I'm gonna read all of it after the nonsense in your previous posts right?

            I did read part of it though and if you pulled your head out of your ass you would have seen that it's nothing but spam links, freaking NOOB!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author SEO Power
    Originally Posted by SumangaliResidences View Post

    I am doing off-page for last 4 months, but still i cant able to find any improvement in ranking. What can i do????
    That's because sites take longer to rank in Google these days. It's one of Google's anti-spam strategies to delay the rankings of new sites for up to 6 months before letting them rank for highly searched keywords.
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  • First check all onpage seo and do white hat off page seo to improve seo ranking
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  • Profile picture of the author iteducation2687
    plz provided full question and tell me what are you ask
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  • Profile picture of the author elcidofaguy
    Yep all new sites are in the sandbox... Link creation velocity needs to be real low! Like if you only get 100 visitors in a month then only create 1-2 back links.. or do nothing... and at least keep it below 10% against traffic stats... For the first 6 months the emphasis should be on quality and consistent new content in order to climb out of the sandbox... as G's algo is real sensitive to new sites... It loosens the grip after a while once your site has satisfied the algorithmic criteria's that your website is not a "fly by night spammer - get rich quick scheme"... I really think sometimes with new sites the algo is testing to see if web masters become impatient and let loose with inappropriate means to attempt to game the system.... These days its about being slow and steady... especially from the onset...

    Of course the exceptions are big brands plus social signals... but again G's algo is able to detect these type of exceptions....
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      What a bunch of parrots here, is this what the WF becomes? Looks like it's even worse then before Freelancer bought it. Not really a great advertisement to outsource work over there.
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      • Profile picture of the author elcidofaguy
        Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

        What a bunch of parrots here, is this what the WF becomes? Looks like it's even worse then before Freelancer bought it. Not really a great advertisement to outsource work over there.
        So who made you big balls then? As you're insulting everyone here - I guess you can roll on out of here.....
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      • Profile picture of the author elcidofaguy
        Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

        What a bunch of parrots here, is this what the WF becomes? Looks like it's even worse then before Freelancer bought it. Not really a great advertisement to outsource work over there.
        Like I said... So who made you big balls then? As you're insulting everyone here - I guess you can roll on out of here...
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        • Profile picture of the author nik0
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          Originally Posted by elcidofaguy View Post

          Like I said... So who made you big balls then? As you're insulting everyone here - I guess you can roll on out of here...
          I've ranked a couple of thousand sites, what did you do? Play basketball and snif glue with your friends?
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          • Profile picture of the author elcidofaguy
            LMAO... The only one smoking dope is you with living in Holland... More like de-listed 1000 sites out of G's index... Yep your head is firmly plugged into that place where the sun don't shine... Not one ounce of intellect.. And its all exposed for the whole world to see! How wonderful....
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            • Profile picture of the author nik0
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              Originally Posted by elcidofaguy View Post

              Yep your head is firmly plugged into that place where the sun don't shine...
              For the record, I live in Thailand, enjoy the weather in the UK pal!
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    • Profile picture of the author sweezeter
      Originally Posted by elcidofaguy View Post

      Yep all new sites are in the sandbox..

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      Where does this crap come from? I have no problems ranking new websites. Don't spam it into oblivion but sitting there playing yourself in the imaginary sandbox is a waste of time.
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  • Profile picture of the author elcidofaguy
    Is that the best your intellect can come up with? Go back to school you NOOB ass wipe...
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Originally Posted by elcidofaguy View Post

      Is that the best your intellect can come up with? Go back to school you NOOB ass wipe...
      Don't you have some homework to do?
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  • Profile picture of the author walkerking
    Originally Posted by SumangaliResidences View Post

    I am doing off-page for last 4 months, but still i cant able to find any improvement in ranking. What can i do????
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  • Profile picture of the author elcidofaguy
    Right then - I've looked at the website from the originators profile re: Sumangali Residences.
    I've looked at the backlinking profile and checked how the website responds to search to test for any algorithmic penalties... Verdict: No penalties...

    The advice to disavow all links is a terrible one and worse yet is damaging for the points I outlined...

    The best advice is to carry on... Diversify the linking profile so that the target keywords are less than 20% (my preference) with the remaining being made up of generic terms like click here, brand name as as well as long tail variations related to property market and location in order to build a better profile which looks natural.... In addition some of the links also need to go to deeply nested pages and not just to the home page...

    The advice given to carry on is most definitely correct... With regards to improving on page SEO.. This is also correct...

    To disavow all links at this stage is plain and simple wrong and from supposed BS expert who thinks they know it all... Post disavow G will put that website under greater scrutiny... So your advice is actually dangerous...

    Plain and simple just about every website listed for the top 10 shows obvious signs of manipulating the SERPs.... But with this supposed expert opinion then its obvious every single website in the world should disavow all links.... For sure there is more intelligence found in an ant than this raving looney....
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Originally Posted by elcidofaguy View Post

      Right then - I've looked at the website from the originators profile re: Sumangali Residences.
      I've looked at the backlinking profile and checked how the website responds to search to test for any algorithmic penalties... Verdict: No penalties...

      The advice to disavow all links is a terrible one and worse yet is damaging for the points I outlined...

      The best advice is to carry on... Diversify the linking profile so that the target keywords are less than 20% (my preference) with the remaining being made up of generic terms like click here, brand name as as well as long tail variations related to property market and location in order to build a better profile which looks natural.... In addition some of the links also need to go to deeply nested pages and not just to the home page...

      The advice given to carry on is most definitely correct... With regards to improving on page SEO.. This is also correct...

      To disavow all links at this stage is plain and simple wrong and from supposed BS expert who thinks they know it all... Post disavow G will put that website under greater scrutiny... So your advice is actually dangerous...

      Plain and simple just about every website listed for the top 10 shows obvious signs of manipulating the SERPs.... But with this supposed expert opinion then its obvious every single website in the world should disavow all links.... For sure there is more intelligence found in an ant than this raving looney....
      Perhaps you can tell him where he can find thousands of relevant quality links to bring his target keywords down to 20 percent.

      What a freaking clown are you, offering a solution that 99.9 percent of people are never able to achieve.

      Dilluting anchor profile, it all sounds so simple in words, till you have to start doing it, you know what most people end up with in an attempt to do that? Even more spammy links that pushes them even further from their goal.

      Solution 1: Get two new domains and do a double redirect

      Solution 2: Clean up links and disavow the rest.

      SImple as that.

      You know why you come up with such ridiculous unpractical solution? Cause you're a teenager that wants to be the wise guy, your own words already revealed that early in the thread by claiming that his backlink profile is non spammy while you hadn't even looked at the link profile yet.

      Retards plenty!
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      • Profile picture of the author elcidofaguy
        What you are still here after insulting everyone on WF???

        Bottom line your analysis that the site has a penalty is wrong.... Your advice to disavow all links is wrong... Go back to that hole where you crawled from...

        You have even stated now that you don't even know how to create links over time....

        Seriously the more you keep adding to this thread the more stupid you are becoming....
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      • Profile picture of the author elcidofaguy
        Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

        Solution 1: Get two new domains and do a double redirect
        It's getting seriously funny now! Complete utter tosh.... Yes I have looked at the back linking profile and yes I have assessed whether the site has a penalty...

        You are wrong all counts.... and are a serious waste of time...
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        • Profile picture of the author Pdomain
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          Originally Posted by elcidofaguy View Post

          It's getting seriously funny now! Complete utter tosh.... Yes I have looked at the back linking profile and yes I have assessed whether the site has a penalty...

          You are wrong all counts.... and are a serious waste of time...
          Not penalty, but you missed one point, that is very important here, that is in short period of time, building too many links....... as the site age is just 4 months, started building links like an authority site needs links to maintain its ranking...

          I will start link building after 3 months slowly and naturally... to show too many links, your site should have the age... I'm not talking of domain age....... site age is calculated from when it started indexing content in search engines..

          It won't be a serious penalty, but it nullifies the effort that you made previously for creating links...

          Apart from building links on home page only, inner pages should also be used...
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          • Profile picture of the author yukon
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            Originally Posted by Pdomain View Post

            Not penalty, but you missed one point, that is very important here, that is in short period of time, building too many links....... as the site age is just 4 months, started building links like an authority site needs links to maintain its ranking...

            I will start link building after 3 months slowly and naturally... to show too many links, your site should have the age... I'm not talking of domain age....... site age is calculated from when it started indexing content in search engines..
            Your wasting time sitting around waiting.

            Your confusing an established link profile with domain age (two different things). You could have a 10 year old domain with zero links that won't rank a page for a decent keyword (no links).
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          • Profile picture of the author elcidofaguy
            Originally Posted by Pdomain View Post

            site age is calculated from when it started indexing content in search engines..
            Some good replies... Yep agree with that... In fact the domain age for Sumangali Residences is 4 years...

            ...nofollow forum sig links... Great point too... Which goes to show why disavowing is absurd lol....
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    No improvement in ranking!!!
    ...but you have irrelevant nofollow forum sig links. What's the problem?

    Lol at the serious answers for a spammy OP profile name with spammy sig links.
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