Nofollow internal links

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Hey guys,

I can't seem to find a simple "yes or no" answer to this. I've read Matt Cutts blog and he says not to nofollow internal links, but he just makes everything so wishy washy its hard to take him seriously. You'd think Google would hire some clear communicators who make shit easier to understand -.-

Anyway - I have a bunch of sitewide footer links like "Contact" "Disclaimers" "Privacy Policy" and others... is it a good idea to nofollow those pages with the Yoast plugin? I'm assuming it's fine to leave them indexed, but I'm still somewhat no0b at SEO.

Thank you in advance for your help
#internal #links #nofollow
  • Profile picture of the author misshang
    why do you want to rank a "disclaimer" page or "privacy policy" page?
    does it make your authority or relevant? NO.
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  • Profile picture of the author CutPasteProfits
    Thanks Misshang. I asked this question because Matt also says in the same breath that "nofollow" attribute tells Google to not trust the link/and also that it doesn't pass authority. That's why it was unclear whether it's a yes or no.
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  • Profile picture of the author AskAnAffiliate
    Hi,

    It really depends on the page and other factors. I would NOFOLLOW the pages which provide no benefit to you. As mentioned the "disclaimer" which you don't need for organic traffic purposes and people can find online when they visit your website.

    We discussed some NOFOLLOW indexes yesterday and you might want to read this:

    http://www.warriorforum.com/search-e...-question.html
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    Do not nofollow any internal links. It bleeds out PageRank and authority. It does not conserve it for your other links.
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    • Profile picture of the author yukon
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      Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

      Do not nofollow any internal links. It bleeds out PageRank and authority. It does not conserve it for your other links.
      I think you already know I respect your opinion when it comes to SEO but I don't think it's even remotely possible to measure loss of PR or authority when it comes to nofollow on internal links.

      I have some nofollow internal links, still ranking pages.

      There's absolutely no reason to index/follow some internal pages.

      Examples:
      • Checkout pages
      • Login pages
      • Member profiles
      • Privacy policy
      • DMCA notice page
      • etc...
      Googles own nofollow example includes an internal page (signin.php).

      Code:
      <a href="signin.php" rel="nofollow">sign in</a>
      There's no reason to tell Google to follow an internal link pointing to a noindexed page.

      There's some Google double talk in the qoute below but the first part makes sense, the last part contradicts itself.

      [source]
      Crawl prioritization:

      Search engine robots can't sign in or register as a member on your forum, so there's no reason to invite Googlebot to follow "register here" or "sign in" links. Using nofollow on these links enables Googlebot to crawl other pages you'd prefer to see in Google's index. However, a solid information architecture -- intuitive navigation, user- and search-engine-friendly URLs, and so on -- is likely to be a far more productive use of resources than focusing on crawl prioritization via nofollowed links.
      I mean seriously, how do you tell Google not to follow a link (bullet list of reasons above) without telling Google not to follow a link?
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      • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
        Originally Posted by yukon View Post

        • Checkout pages
        • Login pages
        • Member profiles
        • Privacy policy
        • DMCA notice page
        • etc...
        I would noindex those pages. I would not nofollow them.
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    • Profile picture of the author scottmacair
      Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

      Do not nofollow any internal links. It bleeds out PageRank and authority. It does not conserve it for your other links.
      This is a good point and not one that is immediately obvious. Nofollowed links still consume page rank, introduced by Google to reduce PR sculpting which was popular for a while, which means page rank is lost. I rarely use nofollow for that reason.
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  • Profile picture of the author SEO Power
    All that advice regarding nofollowing your privacy, contact, and about pages is complete bullshit. Don't nofollow any of your internal links.
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  • Profile picture of the author CutPasteProfits
    Thanks for the tip Mike. If you have a minute, could you explain why it would bleed pagerank and authority if the whole point is to do the exact opposite?
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    I think this, especially the image, explains it best.

    Google Says: Yes, You Can Still Sculpt PageRank. No You Can't Do It With Nofollow - Moz

    I don't see why Google would lie about this, and testing I had done a few years ago showed pretty much the same correlation.
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    • Profile picture of the author yukon
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      Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

      I think this, especially the image, explains it best.

      Google Says: Yes, You Can Still Sculpt PageRank. No You Can't Do It With Nofollow - Moz

      I don't see why Google would lie about this, and testing I had done a few years ago showed pretty much the same correlation.
      I know from my own sites that nofollow on internal links will not drop a page in the SERPs.

      Following links to noindex pages doesn't make any sense to me, it doesn't serve any purpose. When I want links crawled I do that from relevant indexed pages/links, sitemap, etc...

      For me, If the page isn't in the SERPs, it's telling Google the page isn't any of Googles business, move along, nothing to see here (link to noindex page...).

      I wouldn't be surprised If a followed link on a noindex page is even ignored as far as helping to rank other pages on the same domain. That would make for a good SEO test, use a noindex page as a buffer page to see If an orphaned money page ranks.
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    • Profile picture of the author SEO-Dave
      Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

      I think this, especially the image, explains it best.

      Google Says: Yes, You Can Still Sculpt PageRank. No You Can't Do It With Nofollow - Moz

      I don't see why Google would lie about this, and testing I had done a few years ago showed pretty much the same correlation.
      Nice to see at least one regular here understands the damage nofollow does. Quite funny seeing Yukon tip toe around you Mike when he'd call me SEO noob or something for posting the same info, very funny :-)

      Although not ideal SEO wise, if you don't want a page indexed you use noindex not nofollow, but this still costs the link benefit. Basically if you add a nofollow or a dofollow link to a page it costs link benefit, the only question is how the link benefit is used.

      With nofollow it's deleted, the PR flow stops (that's really bad SEO wise).
      With dofollow it flows normally.
      With noindex, follow robots meta tag the link benefit isn't used on the page linked to, but the normal PR flow to other linked pages continue normally.

      If you add a robots meta tag that's noindex,follow. This prevents the page from being indexed, but doesn't stop the PR flow through the site. This doesn't stop the link benefit being 'spent' via the link, so ask why do you want a contact page not indexed?

      You still waste some SEO link benefit because the noindexed page can't rank for anything, but the links from the noindex page still pass link benefit because they are dofollow. Not SEO ideal, but much better than using nofollow.

      Best solution is avoid linking to pages you don't want to waste link benefit on. Do you need a sitewide privacy link for example, would a single home page link to your privacy page be enough?

      Or if you have contact, privacy, T&Cs... could you link to one sitewide and the rest from that page: sitewide to contact which links to the rest. This minimizes link benefit flowing through unimportant pages. If you had 5 pages like these, rather than spending 5 sitewide links, you spend one sitewide link. Can you reduce it to only one link from say home (no sitewide links)?

      Can you reference the page another way like from within an iFrame? I use iFrames for pages I don't want to waste links on.

      Can you add the link as a form button instead? You can style buttons to look like links (I use this for author comment links and WordPress login links) or keep them looking like buttons, does it matter as long as your users can get to a contact page?

      David
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  • Profile picture of the author patco
    I wouldn't do this as this will tell Google something like this:

    There are 100 inner pages (for example!) on this domain. They have high authority... But there are 2-3 inner pages that are nofollow and they the trust flow is low...
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