Embedding Video's on Sites To Rank Youtube Video's

9 years ago

Originally Posted by nik0

Did this two weeks ago, zero sign of improvement so far for either the rankings in Google or in Youtube, video itself is 6 months old and has 8000+ retention views / a few dozen subscribers, nearly a 100 comments, but all fake and created by some Youtube SEO dude.

Video ain't ranking in top 500 in Google and in Youtube it shows up at page 5

Video doesn't have any other backlinks, only embedded it on 12 of my sites but I suspect it will have no influence unless people actually watch it on my sites, as Youtube analytics shows number of embed viewers so I'm pretty sure they do something with that data.

Maybe I should post a link below it to the video page? But that would screw the whole concept and test of embedded video's having an influence on rankings (without being viewed).

I'll wait a few more weeks and after that I'll have some VA's watch the video on my sites, see if that helps a bit.

Ranking Youtube videos has always been fascinating to me, there are plenty of different opinions as it is the case with ranking websites.

I have videos ranked #1 on Google (my video being the only one in most cases) - and they don't have many backlinks at all, I embed my videos to Q&A sites like Quora, its a great site for backlinks but anything else from a Youtube link will be deleted within hours, so its kinda great for YT vids. The Quora questions also rank high in Google themselves, so that's extra traffic.

I can say what else I do with my videos but I suggest you read the YouTube SEO: The Ultimate Guide which Brian from Backlinko wrote.

Hope it helps!

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nik0

Banned 9 years ago

Originally Posted by creat1veone

Ranking Youtube videos has always been fascinating to me, there are plenty of different opinions as it is the case with ranking websites.

I have videos ranked #1 on Google (my video being the only one in most cases) - and they don't have many backlinks at all, I embed my videos to Q&A sites like Quora, its a great site for backlinks but anything else from a Youtube link will be deleted within hours, so its kinda great for YT vids. The Quora questions also rank high in Google themselves, so that's extra traffic.

I can say what else I do with my videos but I suggest you read the YouTube SEO: The Ultimate Guide which Brian from Backlinko wrote.

Hope it helps!

Yes I'm aware of all these things but no one of my friends / customers is gonna watch my acne no more video and the places where I embed it don't receive traffic (eg my private blog network) so it seems embedding wihout viewers is kind of a waste of time these days, seems Youtube is smarter then that.

All those fake views, likes, comments, subscribers don't seem to do it any good either as it's obvious highly unlikely that a brand new video that receives no traffic from elsewhere and isn't ranking at the top in Youtube either would receive so much signals for a short amount of time

So I guess that brings us back to backlinks and onpage SEO, and a solid enough video that will be viewed by people once it ranks.

Acne no more is a poor example btw, my plan was to do product review videos for physical products, and that could work cause my websites do rank for the review keywords already and thus attract visitors that are geniunly interested in such video so then it makes sense to embed it and get it real views / signals.

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SEO Power

9 years ago

Google is getting smarter and smarter everyday on each platform they own. Changes are happening in Google, and changes are happening in YouTube. I've never done SEO for a YT video and don't plan on doing that, but it'd be interesting to experience the ranking process.

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Mike Anthony

9 years ago

Good night you must have had a ton load of domains deindexed to be bothering with ranking youtube videos. Why rank somebody elses site when you should be able to rank your own pages?

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nik0

Banned 9 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Good night you must have had a ton load of domains deindexed to be bothering with ranking youtube videos. Why rank somebody elses site when you should be able to rank your own pages?

Lol what a retarded comment is that, like Youtube pages don't need links to rank.

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Mike Anthony

9 years ago

Originally Posted by nik0

Lol what a retarded comment is that, like Youtube pages don't need links to rank.

No whats retarded is putting a lot of effort into ranking youtube videos when you could be ranking your own pages.

Sending traffic to youtube results in a considerable lack of conversion to your own pages since the visitor is sent to the video site and gets distracted from linking through.

However maybe it works for you as the best you can do after all those domains of yours got deindexed.

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nik0

Banned 9 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

No whats retarded is putting a lot of effort into ranking youtube videos when you could be ranking your own pages.

Sending traffic to youtube results in a considerable lack of conversion to your own pages since the visitor is sent to the video site and gets distracted from linking through.

However maybe it works for you as the best you can do after all those domains of yours got deindexed.

Are you really that stupid?

What if a Youtube video is already ranking at the 1st page and eating my traffic, would make sense to replace that with my own video wouldn't it?

Lol didn't have any domains deindex, but hey keep on spreading lies, makes a nice impact on your credibility, who would ever trust you lol, the man who sold domains with zero links in the past.

If I got a dime for everyone that contacted me about it in the past I would have a nice pot of small change.

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Mike Anthony

9 years ago

Originally Posted by nik0

Are you really that stupid?

What if a Youtube video is already ranking at the 1st page and eating my traffic, would make sense to replace that with my own video wouldn't it?

Oh I dunno not as stupid as you nevertheless. But Hey if you want I can teach you a little SEO....AGAIN (like I taught you what little you know about PBNs a while back... . everything you know not everything I do).

So class begins.....

Lets say you have a keyword thats meh gets say 15,000 searches per month. So your flawed theory is you need to outrank the youtube video with one of your own videos but heres the thing. You are only kidding yourself you are getting back the traffic.
Sorry mate...not happening. Either way Youtube IS GOING to eat up your traffic

Of that 15,000 for spot one you were never going to get meh maybe 12000 to be optimistic but if its going to youtube now and then the traffic has to click through from youtube to your own site? You are lucky if you retain 20% of that traffic to yur own site and MAN am i being generous.

You are still going to lose 80% to youtube poor laddie. They are going to watch another video , go away without going to your site or clicking any links or converting anything. SOL

So if you had some foresight (which I realize you never do) then you would have been content to settle in at number two on your own site (even if you feel you couldn't take the youtube spot on your own) and turn your attention to other long tail where you could get less traffic but actually not lose 80% plus of it. a keyword bringing in even 3,000 eaches would work out better or more combinations and long tail.

You remind me of the days when people used to say they were ranking when they had an article on EZarticles. Nope Ezine was ranking. With Youtube and other videos people watch there you are giving up even more of the traffic than EZ used to take. You as usual just can't figure things out.

Lol didn't have any domains deindex

Oh vey thats quite the lie. Do you really think I am the only one who read you when you admitted you had? For shame.

If I got a dime for everyone that contacted me about it in the past I would have a nice pot of small change

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Maybe you should gather up the whole ten to fifteen cents. Judging from what I am hearing and seeing of your sales you should collect everything you can. Must really kill the confidence of your clients when they see so many of your domains getting deindexed for foolish reasons putting their own sites at risk.

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nik0

Banned 9 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Oh I dunno not as stupid as you nevertheless. But Hey if you want I can teach you a little SEO....AGAIN (like I taught you what little you know about PBNs a while back... . everything you know not everything I do).

So class begins.....

Lets say you have a keyword thats meh gets say 15,000 searches per month. So your flawed theory is you need to outrank the youtube video with one of your own videos but heres the thing. You are only kidding yourself you are getting back the traffic.
Sorry mate...not happening. Either way Youtube IS GOING to eat up your traffic

Of that 15,000 for spot one you were never going to get meh maybe 12000 to be optimistic but if its going to youtube now and then the traffic has to click through from youtube to your own site? You are lucky if you retain 20% of that traffic to yur own site and MAN am i being generous.

You are still going to lose 80% to youtube poor laddie. They are going to watch another video , go away without going to your site or clicking any links or converting anything. SOL

So if you had some foresight (which I realize you never do) then you would have been content to settle in at number two on your own site (even if you feel you couldn't take the youtube spot on your own) and turn your attention to other long tail where you could get less traffic but actually not lose 80% plus of it. a keyword bringing in even 3,000 eaches would work out better or more combinations and long tail.

You remind me of the days when people used to say they were ranking when they had an article on EZarticles. Nope Ezine was ranking. With Youtube and other videos people watch there you are giving up even more of the traffic than EZ used to take. You as usual just can't figure things out.

Wow dude really has no clue, obvious my site ranks at #1 and most likely at #2 as well, still I want that annoying video from someone else ranking at #3 replaced with mine, cause those bloody Youtube thumbnails steal a lot of my traffic so better replace it with my own.

Do you get it now?

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Mike Anthony

9 years ago

Originally Posted by nik0

Wow dude really has no clue, obvious my site ranks at #1 and most likely at #2 as well

LOL...most likely? imaginary rankings ..I love it.

You are hilarious any which way.. Thats even worse and you are oblivious to it being worse. You suck at business sense. So you are going after 20% (or below) of the traffic at position three?

Dumb and dumber. better to spend the time ranking for another keyword than chasing 20% of traffic at the three spot. Sorry to have burst you and Creativenone's bubble but you are getting only a very small percentage of the traffic back any which way. You lose it to low CTR back to your main site.

I know reality sucks but ...ummm....its reality not sweet dreams.

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nik0

Banned 9 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

LOL...most likely? imaginary rankings ..I love it.

You are hilarious any which way.. Thats even worse and you are oblivious to it being worse. You suck at business sense. So you are going after 20% (or below) of the traffic at position three?

Dumb and dumber. better to spend the time ranking for another keyword than chasing 20% of traffic at the three spot. Sorry to have burst you and Creativenone's bubble but you are getting only a very small percentage of the traffic back any which way. You lose it to low CTR back to your main site.

I know reality sucks but ...ummm....its reality not sweet dreams.

Yeah most likely as I'm building 20 money sites per niche.

What does that link you posted have to do with any of this? Is that a way to disguise that you have no clue what the CTR from Youtube to website is? I have no idea what the CTR would be but I'm not guessing here that I have to defend later like you.

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Mike Anthony

9 years ago

Originally Posted by nik0

Yeah most likely as I'm building 20 money sites per niche.

From what you are not making in SEO due to your service getting slapped by Google and your sales threads languishing I would build more than 20

What does that link you posted have to do with any of this?

Its an explanation of CTR to someone who claimed it couldn't be calculated. Must I explain everything to you twice or three times?.There is no crayon font on WF.

Is that a way to disguise that you have no clue what the CTR from Youtube to website is?.

Thats why I stated that the Creativenone do the search specified after learning what CTR is. The results show what many people are getting and if you go to subsequent pages shows you some studies.

Like I said....no Crayon Font on WF so I don't know if I can make it any simpler for you.

I have no idea what the CTR would be

that makes sense (in Bizarro world). You have no idea what the traffic would be but you are engaged in ranking Youtube for the sake of saying you ranked in Youtube. There goes that um "unique" business sense again.

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nik0

Banned 9 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

From what you are not making in SEO due to your service getting slapped by Google and your sales threads languishing I would build more than 20

Its an explanation of CTR to someone who claimed it couldn't be calculated. Must I explain everything to you twice or three times?.There is no crayon font on WF.

Thats why I stated that the Creativenone do the search specified after learning what CTR is. The results show what many people are getting and if you go to subsequent pages shows you some studies.

Like I said....no Crayon Font on WF so I don't know if I can make it any simpler for you.

that makes sense (in Bizarro world). You have no idea what the traffic would be but you are engaged in ranking Youtube for the sake of saying you ranked in Youtube. There goes that um "unique" business sense again.

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Reading is tough for you ain't it? Let me spell it out, twenty sites PER niche

Lol did he say it can't be calculated? Perhaps he meant something different with that? Hint, hint, maybe not take everything so literally. So you not only have a problem with reading, you also have a problem with what we call in Holland "understandable reading" in English probably summarized as "interpretation".

Yes I'm not short on high PR domains same like you, or maybe better said: "My broker has a new batch every week that I can pick from, two weeks ago I bought a nice mix of PR3/PR4's (80 in total), mostly PR3 though as spending $200 for a PR4 with not much more impressive links then a PR3 feels like a waste of money. I'm going to turn them into 80 money sites, and then another batch of 80. Why not I have the funds eating dust, better do something with it.

I just like to have a video in Youtube, after someone told me that he easily gets a 40 percent CTR at #3, thats eating away from my #1 and #2 spot and I don't like that, even if Youtube converts only at 20 percent that is still 8 percent I get back. Yep all bits and pieces help but obvious it must be doable, doing some tests now with Youtube ranking and seems it either takes a shitload of spam or a more whitehat approach and obvious I ain't prepared to do the latter for a property that I don't own.

ps: My service ain'slapped lol, almost all of my clients recovered, I ain't sitting still like you, waiting for new domains and put my service on pause till then, I have sources you can only have wet dreams about.

Initially I thought you might do it same like my broker but on later thought I suppose not as he never runs dry on domains and is doing this for years and has many clients. You are already out of domains weeks/months after you started it. Is your trick not working anymore? Is the pool empty now, I feel pity for you to have to depend on a pool that only drips, it's like when my containers of water are empty here and I forgot to pay the water bill lol. Luckily I have a large swimming pool for emergencies

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creat1veone

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Good night you must have had a ton load of domains deindexed to be bothering with ranking youtube videos. Why rank somebody elses site when you should be able to rank your own pages?

Maybe because ranking videos instead of websites takes about 100x less effort and time?

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creat1veone

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

So class begins.....

Lets say you have a keyword thats meh gets say 15,000 searches per month. So your flawed theory is you need to outrank the youtube video with one of your own videos but heres the thing. You are only kidding yourself you are getting back the traffic.
Sorry mate...not happening. Either way Youtube IS GOING to eat up your traffic

Of that 15,000 for spot one you were never going to get meh maybe 12000 to be optimistic but if its going to youtube now and then the traffic has to click through from youtube to your own site? You are lucky if you retain 20% of that traffic to yur own site and MAN am i being generous.

You are still going to lose 80% to youtube poor laddie. They are going to watch another video , go away without going to your site or clicking any links or converting anything. SOL

So if you had some foresight (which I realize you never do) then you would have been content to settle in at number two on your own site (even if you feel you couldn't take the youtube spot on your own) and turn your attention to other long tail where you could get less traffic but actually not lose 80% plus of it. a keyword bringing in even 3,000 eaches would work out better or more combinations and long tail.

You remind me of the days when people used to say they were ranking when they had an article on EZarticles. Nope Ezine was ranking. With Youtube and other videos people watch there you are giving up even more of the traffic than EZ used to take. You as usual just can't figure things out.

Well Mike some of the stuff you said here is no way to be taken as "information". No, especially the part where you said "still going to lose 80% to youtube" - Even if you owned YouTube and watched the live statistics of people how they watch a video and how many then click-trough the call to action you would say to yourself: "Wow! I was really shortsighted and rushed to conclusions! Maybe, next time, I'll use my brain! YES!"

Not even close to being considered a rational thought.

To even try and put this observation in percentage is delusional. Obviously different niches and different traffic audiences will respond differently.

If you somehow concluded that your own videos are passing trough only 20% of the traffic to your website, in one way I genuinely feel sorry for you, and in another way, wonder did you yell at your traffic telling them to go away!? 20%? Seriously?

I hope you were trolling everyone because what you just said, makes no sense whatsoever, isn't measurable and is way too general and there are way to many factors and derivations involved to even think about measuring those.

If however, you have somehow really concluded your own videos only pass trough the 20% of the traffic, then well, you are only right for your own, one situation, one out of a billion different ones.

No offense intended, different opinions matter.

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nik0

Banned 9 years ago

Originally Posted by creat1veone

Well Mike some of the stuff you said here is no way to be taken as "information". No, especially the part where you said "still going to lose 80% to youtube" - Even if you owned YouTube and watched the live statistics of people how they watch a video and how many then click-trough the call to action you would say to yourself: "Wow! I was really shortsighted and rushed to conclusions! Maybe, next time, I'll use my brain! YES!"

Not even close to being considered a rational thought.

To even try and put this observation in percentage is delusional. Obviously different niches and different traffic audiences will respond differently.

If you somehow concluded that your own videos are passing trough only 20% of the traffic to your website, in one way I genuinely feel sorry for you, and in another way, wonder did you yell at your traffic telling them to go away!? 20%? Seriously?

I hope you were trolling everyone because what you just said, makes no sense whatsoever, isn't measurable and is way too general and there are way to many factors and derivations involved to even think about measuring those.

If however, you have somehow really concluded your own videos only pass trough the 20% of the traffic, then well, you are only right for your own, one situation, one out of a billion different ones.

No offense intended, different opinions matter.

Mike always likes to yell things that he knows nothing about, same like he thought that those 200 crappy domains made up the core part of my network lol.

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Mike Anthony

9 years ago

Originally Posted by creat1veone

Well Mike some of the stuff you said here is no way to be taken as "information". No, especially the part where you said "still going to lose 80% to youtube" - Even if you owned YouTube and watched the live statistics of people how they watch a video and how many then click-trough the call to action you would say to yourself: "Wow! I was really shortsighted and rushed to conclusions! Maybe, next time, I'll use my brain! YES!"

good night!! A year ago even the newbies were not this stupid. Here kid read up. its called CTR

https://support.google.com/adwords/answer/2615875?hl=en

and yes it can and has been calculated. When you are done educating your total ignorance on CTRs search Google for the term

Youtube CTR

As anyone will be able to see I was quite generous at 20%. Many people get CTRs at 10%. Worse IM newbies such as yourself tend to use low quality videos so though you will no doubt CLAIM you get hgher than 20% (because its a forum and you can claim anything) its likely you are below the 10%.

My suggestion to you is stay in school and learn how to do research

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creat1veone

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

good night!! A year ago even the newbies were not this stupid. Here kid read up. its called CTR

https://support.google.com/adwords/answer/2615875?hl=en

and yes it can and has been calculated. When you are done educating your total ignorance on CTRs search Google for the term

Youtube CTR

As anyone will be able to see I was quite generous at 20%. Many people get CTRs at 10%. Worse IM newbies such as yourself tend to use low quality videos so though you will no doubt CLAIM you get hgher than 20% (because its a forum and you can claim anything) its likely you are below the 10%.

My suggestion to you is stay in school and learn how to do research

First of all, what we're talking about has nothing to do with Google ADS, as the link you provided is explaining on.

What I am talking about is how many viewers go trough to your website after watching your video, trough the link in the description, on screen or any other possible free method.I hope you aren't paying for a 10% CTR with ads, that'd be just sad. Also, you obviously didn't understand the measuring part either, as I tried to explain this to you before, but let me try again, I'll try to be more simple now.

You see, the better your video is, the more chance there is the viewer will feel comfortable clicking trough to your website. And let me tell you, this fact alone is extensive, the quality of your video depends on so many things, video quality, original content, how you present your idea/product, how rated your video is, what's the user feedback like in the comments, is the video informative and does it make the viewer want to learn more?

All of this and plenty more will directly affect your CTR from Video -> LP.

Now, in your case, you may be blasting hundreds of copied videos with a 240p image slapped on, over 5 seconds, these video you see, will probably have that CTR you were talking about, the 10%.

Everything you said actually makes sense now, and I would also rather work on website in that case, than on crap video content.

I am speaking from experience as I've spent about 4 years on YouTube marketing.

Also, yes this is just a forum and anyone can say and claim anything, no need to get over emotional or insult people with such disrespect. I'd understand if you were just trolling, or 12 years old, otherwise I'd look up a psychiatrist if I were you.

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Mike Anthony

9 years ago

Originally Posted by creat1veone

First of all, what we're talking about has nothing to do with Google ADS, as the link you provided is explaining on.

Oh vey. More kiddie reasoning.. It was given to you because it explains CTR regardless of Google ads. CTR is a term used across several ad and websites to measure conversions. If you won't educate yourself there is no reason to respond to your post like you have anything of value to say

What I am talking about is how many viewers go trough to your website after watching your video, trough the link in the description, on screen

Kid again thats what CTR is. CT stands for Click through. Goodness. I have nothing against Newbs but newbs that refuse to educate themselves are not worth the time to even read further.

You are just totally clueless not even knowing that a 10-20% CTR to impression rate is actually not bad for very may ads. can't even bother reading more of your post.

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creat1veone

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Oh vey. More kiddie reasoning.. It was given to you because it explains CTR regardless of Google ads. CTR is a term used across several ad and websites to measure conversions. If you won't educate yourself there is no reason to respond to your post like you have anything of value to say

Kid again thats what CTR is. CT stands for Click through. Goodness. I have nothing against Newbs but newbs that refuse to educate themselves are not worth the time to even read further.

You are just totally clueless not even knowing that a 10-20% CTR to impression rate is actually not bad for very may ads. can't even bother reading more of your post.

Could you stop editing your own post? Obviously you are arguing with yourself about your own opinion(s)? Again, the psychiatrist, think about getting one.

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nik0 Banned 9 years ago

Update: My video has moved from page 5 in Youtube to page 3 in Youtube.

Zero rankings in Google though
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starvedseo

9 years ago

Its a good idea as it increase number of views naturally thereby helping your purposes.

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nik0 Banned 9 years ago

Originally Posted by starvedseo

Its a good idea as it increase number of views naturally thereby helping your purposes.

Well the sites it's hosted on hardly have any traffic, if at all as it are PBN sites so I was pleasantly surprised.
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yukon

Banned 9 years ago

Like I've always said the whole ranking YT video pages in Google SERPs just because you can is a bad idea. I'm not explaining why for the hundredth time. Figure it out.

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nik0

Banned 9 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

Like I've always said the whole ranking YT video pages in Google SERPs just because you can is a bad idea. I'm not explaining why for the hundredth time. Figure it out.

It looks good when they search and see your site, your Facebook, your Youtube, your twitter gives a feeling of auhority, besides that it's not only about ranking in Google, it's also about ranking in Youtube

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