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Backlinks do's and don'ts

by NewGuy586
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Anybody can advise on how to build backlinks?

What would be some do's and don'ts when building backlinks?

What are good examples of Tier 1, 2, 3 links?
#backlinks #donts
  • Profile picture of the author jezter6
    Way too generic of a question that is going to get all the linkspam bots out in full force.

    You'll get the idiots selling fiverr gigs full of comment profiles claiming they're "PR9" backlinks...and they're not.

    You'll get the idiots saying all you need is social bookmarking.

    You'll get idiots saying comment and forum sig link spamming works wonders...all while they're sig link spamming your thread or offering services to do it for you cheaply.

    You'll get the die hard PBN guys that will get into heated arguments about their domain stats with the other PBN guys, which will lead to much excitement.

    In the end, it all comes down to deciding what types of links you WANT and what they'll do to your site (short and long term).

    Sure, spamming can work wonders for short term projects, but come with the risk of getting slapped.

    If you're building a real site (that has real information backed by real writing) you may want to stay away from anything that seems fishy. If you're just building yet another crappy clickbank affiliate site, then you may not care about good links and long term success.
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  • Profile picture of the author NewGuy586
    According to google... you should let the "back linking" build naturally on its own..

    Google says that if somebody likes a site, they will back link it...

    Thing is.... "liking" a website doesn't mean you are going to build a back link to it..

    I have seen websites with little information ranking high from a .org .us .com extensions... for as much quality, or possible quality that can be given, or related information to be presented, there are website that offer nothing overly special that still have high rankings...

    With a quality part of a domain put at the same level as another 100+ domains, then, what is left?

    Only thing I can think of is back linking.. as google does seem to address the point of back linking as a function of the search engine..

    Another point can be Exact Match Domain... with back linking?

    I have / had websites well known within my business network, yet they never reached a number of visitors even close related to the number of searches for specific keyword, and other websites never show on a keyword that match the domain.

    For as much presented relevant information to the industry with all the people I work with... the sites never seem to pick up with the search engines.
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    • Profile picture of the author jezter6
      Originally Posted by NewGuy586 View Post

      According to google... you should let the "back linking" build naturally on its own..

      Google says that if somebody likes a site, they will back link it...

      Thing is.... "liking" a website doesn't mean you are going to build a back link to it..
      With millions of blogs and billions of (legitimate) social media accounts - if people like the information you have to offer, they will share that information with their blog readers, friends, and others. Some are of little SEO value, but the fact remains is that people LIKE to share good stuff. Facebook and twitter were founded on the idea that people want to share things with other people.

      That said, it all depends on what type of site you have and what offer you're making. If you're just talking a really crappy ecommerce Chinese junk drop-ship site - then yeah, nobody's going to be creating tons of links to every page of cheap junk.



      Originally Posted by NewGuy586 View Post

      I have seen websites with little information ranking high from a .org .us .com extensions... for as much quality, or possible quality that can be given, or related information to be presented, there are website that offer nothing overly special that still have high rankings...

      With a quality part of a domain put at the same level as another 100+ domains, then, what is left?
      If you want a good response, please clean this question up as I have no idea what you're trying to ask.

      Yes, crappy sites rank because people build backlinks to them. Some survive forever, some get slapped. Sometimes, it's all in how you do it.

      [quote=NewGuy586;9790035]
      Only thing I can think of is back linking.. as google does seem to address the point of back linking as a function of the search engine..

      Another point can be Exact Match Domain... with back linking? [/QUOTE[

      Exact match domains were very popular. Of course, they got spammed out pretty hard, there's few decent ones left, and any expired ones generally have bad link profiles. There was a time where exact match had value. Google figured out that people were using it and it's not quite as special as it once was.

      Whatever it's effect on SEO is or was, if you can't plan out a site (design, content, SEO plan) without an Exact match, getting the domain isn't going to magic you into top spots or correlate into immediate sales.

      Internet users get more and more savvy, and obviously spammy EMDs like "wheretobuybluewidgets.com" probably aren't going to make sales from anyone but the truly internet ignorant.

      Originally Posted by NewGuy586 View Post

      I have / had websites well known within my business network, yet they never reached a number of visitors even close related to the number of searches for specific keyword, and other websites never show on a keyword that match the domain.

      For as much presented relevant information to the industry with all the people I work with... the sites never seem to pick up with the search engines.
      Just building a site doesn't magically get traffic and sales. There are hundreds of billions of websites on the internet. Only 10 can get into the first page of results without paying for advertising spots. You have to make your website valuable enough to get into those spots.
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      • Profile picture of the author NewGuy586
        Originally Posted by jezter6 View Post

        With millions of blogs and billions of (legitimate) social media accounts - if people like the information you have to offer, they will share that information with their blog readers, friends, and others. .
        But they don't... I like many websites and haven't put a link to any of them.

        To say that to "like" a site is equals to "sharing" or "linking" a site is false.

        And in many regards.. there are sites ranking high that are nothing special in relation to many others..


        For my experience on what I have seen... domains might rank high on:

        Exact name... given crappy .com's, .us, .org, .net <-- keep in mind some are keywords very industry specific, and others are also just a last name.

        If the focus is so much in quality, and the websites are really nothing special,, then? shoot me google... I get the feeling they have back links, and likely not always naturally made..
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        • Profile picture of the author jezter6
          Originally Posted by NewGuy586 View Post

          But they don't... I like many websites and haven't put a link to any of them.

          To say that to "like" a site is equals to "sharing" or "linking" a site is false.

          And in many regards.. there are sites ranking high that are nothing special to others..
          Just because you don't link to other sites doesn't mean there aren't millions of people who do it every day of the week.
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          • Profile picture of the author NewGuy586
            Originally Posted by jezter6 View Post

            Just because you don't link to other sites doesn't mean there aren't millions of people who do it every day of the week.

            Correct.... still... "liking" a site doesn't equals "linking" a site....

            So.. are we talking about "liking"? Or "linking"? .... likely google can't read feelings.
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  • Profile picture of the author jezter6
    Plenty of people link to the sites they like every day on social media, personal blogs, and other sites where they write content.

    If one didn't "like" a site, they most assuredly wouldn't include a link to that site with whatever they were writing.

    Thus a link indicates that someone likes a particular page...enough to include a link to it.


    I have no idea why were diverging down this topic anyways. Do you want to spam your site with crappy sig links which will likely get you slapped sooner or later, or are you building a website that offers something of real value that you will want to be around for years to come?
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  • Profile picture of the author edwardshaw
    What about buying directory links? Ive seen a website eat the competition with just paid for directory links, why does this work acording to google it shouldnt
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    • Profile picture of the author NewGuy586
      Where can I buy directory links?

      Plenty of people put links to websites they like, as well as websites they don't like...

      Quality of a site isn't all that hard.. there are many websites with equal quality, all fighting for the first place.

      My point is going back to the likeness level of a website.. a "link" cannot automatically be translated into a "like"...... Google hasn't build a system to read people's mind.... they simply use back linking and assume is a "like" when the user can have a million other things in mind..
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