Looking for suggestions on link building package

by Ringee
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Im an attorney, who recently took over my own seo. Have a two site personal blog network. Planning on adding to that. Considering purchase a xrumer service for those two tier two sites. Looking for suggestions/warnings/advice on that.

Also, need to work on external links to the main site. I am very interested in protecting the main site as I've used the URL for years. I am looking for a safe and reliable one time payment link building package.

As you can probably tell, I'm a total nube.
#building #link #package #suggestions
  • Profile picture of the author SEO Power
    Since this domain is very important to you, avoid any spammy link building tactics. You'll need higher quality links which are usually more expensive than others but less risky. If you can afford expensive link building services, contact Glen at viperchill.com. The guy knows his stuff.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ringee
      Have you used their services? I emailed through the website, but there is no mention of any link building services on viperchill.com. Do you have any other recomendations?
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Lol, attorney blasting links.

    Anyways...

    Make sure you always keep a buffer domain between those link blast & your money domain.
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  • DO NOT BUY AUTOMATION SERVICES LIKE XRUMER, GSA unless you're absolutely sure of what you're doing.. which you're not by the looks of it.

    Since you're looking to rank for your local terms, "Citations" should be among your top priorities. These include Yelp Pages, Google Places.. - Vital for local seo.

    Moreover, apply this technique and try to replicate the top performing links of your page 1 competition i.e try and get the same links.
    Most of the times, the best links for local sites are from website directories so they're easy to replicate - If they're helping them rank, they'll do the same for you.

    Finally, you should consider PBN's links, but be very careful with footprints.
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  • Profile picture of the author godoveryou
    ... there's a reason that xrumer 'services' are so cheap and that is that if the person actually knew what they were doing they would make substantially more money actually doing it than selling it.

    Anyways, don't do it. It's a bad way to spend money these days.

    Instead consider looking for someone with a lot of SEO experience, and I'm not talking about the average Joe advertising their services. To try find someone that actually makes a lot of money in the affiliate marketing world by using SEO as their traffic source. Then be prepared to spend a lot of money and make them a serious offer, contingent on your approval process.

    If they agree, vet the hell out of them. Get examples of their work today, 6 month ago and 18 months ago. Figure out what they are doing and if it's the right thing for you. If it involves xRumer, Scrapebox, SENuke, Etc then they probably aren't worth what you initially offered.

    Then crack open that check book one more time and put a 10lb plate on it to keep it open because if they are worth the time and effort you put into vet'ing them and you then hired them for the large upfront fee they agreed to (and any real SEO worth hiring is going to expect a good amount of money) - they are going to need a bankroll or operating capital most likely. Particularly if they are doing something that you will get to 'Keep' when they are done or you let them go.

    Expect the whole process from talent seeking, to vet'ing, agreement, work initiation to serious results to take at least (a minimum) of 6-12 months.

    .... or buy a xRumer blast for $5 on fiverr and pwn the web baby!

    But just as a point of reference, I don't advertise work for hire (because I don't really do it or need to), but when I do get someone on my doorstep I won't even look at their project for less than $200/hr. Being a real SEO Specialist is every bit as professional and notable a career field as being an attorney, physician, or forensic CPA. As such, if you find someone willing to do the work inexpensively, there are going to be some corners cut - be that education, experience, quality or performance. Something somewhere is going to be lost.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ringee
      godoveryou, thanks.

      Unfortunately, I have been through this process several times... at the tune of ten of thousand of dollars. After the last, I vowed to take matters into my own hands. The only area where I intend to pay for any services, very reluctantly, is link building.

      It seems like overwhelming feedback against xRumer, Scrapebox, SENuke, Etc, even at tier 3.

      My latest SEO expert advised me to set up a PBN, and I found out yesterday that two blogs were on the same IP address as my main site... ugh.

      Ive spent countless hours educating myself with the clear intent to take things into my own hands, but I am at a bit of a loss with linkbuilding in such a competitive market. My conclusion is to outsource this specific area... Please help!
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      • Originally Posted by Ringee View Post

        Ive spent countless hours educating myself with the clear intent to take things into my own hands, but I am at a bit of a loss with linkbuilding in such a competitive market. My conclusion is to outsource this specific area... Please help!
        I'll give you my Honest Advice.

        Ditch SEO and focus on your Law Practice.

        If I get sued tomorrow, I'll pay an expert to help me out because that's his job. I can't expect myself to start reading some law books and expect some miracle in a few weeks.

        There's a reason we're not lawyers and you're not an SEO. We've committed our times and efforts on mastering one art.

        SEO can take months to master with lot's of practice. In addition, the money you're going to spend on training and tools. All this to rank your 1 site?
        Not to mention the fact that if Google make a change in their Algo and you're a causality, you're back on square one.

        The time you're spending on learning SEO, you'd be better off spending it on Client Acquisition. My Father is a lawyer so I can say this with confidence that 1 new client would be enough to pay for 6-Months of decent SEO.

        Taking control of your business is a great idea, but sometimes you're better off maximizing the potential of a business you have firm feet's planted into rather than meddling into something new and ignoring your primary business.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ringee
      Being a real SEO Specialist is every bit as professional and notable a career field as being an attorney, physician, or forensic CPA.

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      Aside from the Board that pulls your license for pickpocketing or shoddy work.
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  • Profile picture of the author godoveryou
    Well, I gave you my piece.

    After countless hours on your own and getting nowhere, what makes you think your going to be able to depend on opinions on some public forum?

    I can spend 1000 hours reading books on liver transplants but won't be doing one on myself. You're essentially saying you want to. Cool. Good luck. Sorry you invested in the wrong people in past.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ringee
      Originally Posted by godoveryou View Post

      Well, I gave you my piece.

      After countless hours on your own and getting nowhere, what makes you think your going to be able to depend on opinions on some public forum?

      I can spend 1000 hours reading books on liver transplants but won't be doing one on myself. You're essentially saying you want to. Cool. Good luck. Sorry you invested in the wrong people in past.
      Is there an accredited SEO school. Please point me in the direction of credable sources for SEO. Aside from the well known white hat sources, I was under the impression that these forums are where people go to learn.

      Am I missing something? I am attempting to learn in earnest, and hope to learn from the best.
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by Ringee View Post

        Is there an accredited SEO school. Please point me in the direction of credable sources for SEO. Aside from the well known white hat sources, I was under the impression that these forums are where people go to learn.

        Am I missing something? I am attempting to learn in earnest, and hope to learn from the best.
        Another option is to simply let an SEO rank a generic name site/pages for your niche & rent the domain at a monthly price, or pay per lead from the ranked domain/pages.

        That way If the domain doesn't rank any pages to drive traffic back to you then you don't pay. That puts all the weight on the SEO & gives them incentive to keep their own domain pages ranked If they want to continue earning money.
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        • Profile picture of the author Ringee
          Originally Posted by yukon View Post

          Another option is to simply let an SEO rank a generic name site/pages for your niche & rent the domain at a monthly price, or pay per lead from the ranked domain/pages.

          That way If the domain doesn't rank any pages to drive traffic back to you then you don't pay. That puts all the weight on the SEO & gives them incentive to keep their own domain pages ranked If they want to continue earning money.
          Thanks so much. I have actually discussed this but have never been able to find someone willing to do the work. A couple people have initially agreed, but then never took the action.
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          • Profile picture of the author webdevelopmentc
            Originally Posted by Ringee View Post

            Thanks so much. I have actually discussed this but have never been able to find someone willing to do the work. A couple people have initially agreed, but then never took the action.
            Basically Mate I feel you have been really bad dreams for SEO in your past years. I would recommend you not to look for link building but try to promote your own business personally. Basically you need to just put some time into it and the rest is upon the quality of work you do.

            Just try to generate 35 to 40 quality contexual links every month with quite a few Local Listings.

            If you need any further help feel free to contact us.
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  • Profile picture of the author paulch65
    SEO may just be something you enjoy.

    I work for legal clients in the UK and we do lots of high quality content, infographcis surveys etc and whitehat works really well.

    Law effects society and lots of people have opinions on it so it really lends itself to whitehat.

    PM and I'll help you further.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ringee
      Thanks for the feedback guys. I feel like I might have different responses if I hadn't disclosed I was a lawyer

      Something along the lines of... Focus on a diverse whitehat link building campaigns and if you do decide to buy a link package or other greyhat use hosted properties (blogspot, tumblr, wordpress, etc.) for shady link strategies.

      The main take away from this post. When asking for advice, say your selling something less valuable.
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  • Profile picture of the author freelanceronline
    use guests posts, articles, you need a Youtube channel for your Local SEO GP listing optimized videos, citations, directory submissions, a little onpage of website. just do quality and High PR submissions only and You are all set
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  • Profile picture of the author sonjay
    Getting links will always be just part of the overall strategy..

    Originally Posted by sonjay View Post

    The two most important factors to organic rankings are:

    1. backlinks
    2. traffic

    So if you want to rank "local," a dominant portion of your backlinks and traffic should be "local".. implement traditional (or termed "offline") strategies like banner displays and distributing flyers.. and implement what you learn as Internet Marketer.. like call-to-actions ("Download our free report until February 1 only!"), tracking (dedicating one domain name for one method) and split testing (some elements like colors or words are different)..
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  • Profile picture of the author ttados
    1. Make sure your onsite SEO is solid.
    2. Set up a Google My Business page.
    3. Focus on citations....lots of citations.
    4. Focus on content marketing. If you nail content marketing you will organically get backlinks.
    5. Look into Google/Bing ads and Facebook ads.
    6. Be patient for results
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