Keyword Reasearch: Attributes from first page which shout YES!

15 years ago

Yeah I try to avoid the big players like amazon and wikipedia.

If results bring up domains that arent' that old, have little back links to the page and haven't SEO'd then I will give it a shot.

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dv8

15 years ago

Originally Posted by terryd

Yeah I try to avoid the big players like amazon and wikipedia.

If results bring up domains that arent' that old, have little back links to the page and haven't SEO'd then I will give it a shot.

John (xfactor) said run don't walk to grab a domain if the #1 result is an amazon review. Unless I misunderstood him.

From doing my own research, I have seen countless sites outrank "bigger sites" and sites with very little backlinks outrank sites with thousands of backlinks. Just too many factors here.

I'm becoming more and more convinced that a keyword rich domain is a HUGE factor in ranking.

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terryd

15 years ago

Originally Posted by dv8

John (xfactor) said run don't walk to grab a domain if the #1 result is an amazon review. Unless I misunderstood him.

From doing my own research, I have seen countless sites outrank "bigger sites" and sites with very little backlinks outrank sites with thousands of backlinks. Just too many factors here.

I'm becoming more and more convinced that a keyword rich domain is a HUGE factor in ranking.

I must have missed that, I thought he said to try and avoid the authority sites the likes of Amazon and About?

Even so there are a tonne of keywords out there to build sites around, using MNF and MS it makes it pretty easy to target phrases and build sites that rank in no time.

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dv8

15 years ago

Originally Posted by terryd

I must have missed that, I thought he said to try and avoid the authority sites the likes of Amazon and About?

Even so there are a tonne of keywords out there to build sites around, using MNF and MS it makes it pretty easy to target phrases and build sites that rank in no time.

I will go back and try to find his post. Again, I may have misunderstood it.

I'll see if I can find it.

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Dimebag

15 years ago

I am just trying to see some patterns with the results I am getting but can't seem to get any solid information.

It seems the majority of phrases I target are populated with 10's of 1000's of backlinks and over 8 years old, surely there is no way to compete with this?

Are there any niche tutorials to help with using market samurai on here?

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terryd

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Dimebag

I am just trying to see some patterns with the results I am getting but can't seem to get any solid information.

It seems the majority of phrases I target are populated with 10's of 1000's of backlinks and over 8 years old, surely there is no way to compete with this?

Are there any niche tutorials to help with using market samurai on here?

It sounds to me as you are talking about backlinks to domain as opposed to the backlinks to page,huge difference!

I'm assuming you have read the $300+ a day adsense thread in this forum?

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dv8

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Dimebag

I am just trying to see some patterns with the results I am getting but can't seem to get any solid information.

It seems the majority of phrases I target are populated with 10's of 1000's of backlinks and over 8 years old, surely there is no way to compete with this?

Are there any niche tutorials to help with using market samurai on here?

As I said, there are many factors.

5 minutes ago I just came across some more proof that you can beat out "bigger" sites. #1 result has ZERO backlinks but a kw rich domain and kw's worked into title and site. #2 has thousands of backlinks but no kw rich domain. And in this niche it would be considered a "big player".

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dv8

15 years ago

Originally Posted by dv8

I will go back and try to find his post. Again, I may have misunderstood it.

I'll see if I can find it.

Yup, run don't walk.

Post #523 in his thread he said....

VERY easy.

Whenever you see Amazon at the top for your keyword, run, don't
walk, after that niche.

- John

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terryd

15 years ago

Originally Posted by dv8

Yup, run don't walk.

Post #523 in his thread he said....

Damn!........you know how many niches I've ditched because I thought opposite!....lol

Guess that's what you get for reading threads at ridiculous times in the morning!

Wow.....so finding these niches has got even easier!

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dv8

15 years ago

Originally Posted by terryd

Damn!........you know how many niches I've ditched because I thought opposite!....lol

Guess that's what you get for reading threads at ridiculous times in the morning!

Wow.....so finding these niches has got even easier!

I'm sure you are not alone in ditching niches for this reason. And sure as hell not alone in reading threads at ridiculous times in the morning. 7:36 here. I'm exhausted. But I think I stumbled onto something that can be huge! So it may pay off.

Anyway, this is why I have been double checking when doing my research. I am currently using a free trail version of SEnuke. When I see numbers I like, I go and dig a little deeper myself.

I am constantly coming across the #1 result beating out the other results that have WAY MORE backlinks. I'm talking thousands more. But they lack a kw rich domain and the kw being used in the title and on site, etc.

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terryd

15 years ago

I'm so knackered and wanting to go to bed but I just got to put one more post up on my new niche site before I go to bed.......guess it would help if I stop posting on this forum...lol

SeNuke is a pretty sweet tool, I know the price is steep but it really is a neat tool and I can't see me canceling my subscription any time soon.

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dv8

15 years ago

Originally Posted by terryd

I'm so knackered and wanting to go to bed but I just got to put one more post up on my new niche site before I go to bed.......guess it would help if I stop posting on this forum...lol

SeNuke is a pretty sweet tool, I know the price is steep but it really is a neat tool and I can't see me canceling my subscription any time soon.

I'm gonna cancel before the trial ends. I like it, but not sure what tool I'm gonna go with yet.

XFactor raves about MNF. So I may give that a try.

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terryd

15 years ago

Yeah MNF is pretty good for finding those niches, the perfect tool would be a mix of Market Samuai and MNF.

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Dimebag 15 years ago

So does Google hold links direct to the page itself more highly?

So for example a site with 10,000 domain backlinks - would be possible to beat with 1000 high quality direct page backlinks, some with anchor text?
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terryd

15 years ago

Wow....your really aiming high. It depends on what you want to do.

At this moment in time for my business I'm basically concentrating on the Google sniper method which is about finding very small niches with very little competition and grabing those first page spots on Google.

I wouldn't even dream of taking on sites with the amount of backlinks that you are talking about.

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Dimebag 15 years ago

Yes, I think I may be aiming at subjects/terms which are maybe too broad.

for example I am searching for a subject for example DJing and then seeing what the tool comes back with probably not the best method at all.

Could you give an example of how far you go in terms of a niche?
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terryd

15 years ago

If you can , try and invest in a copy of Google sniper, it's great for this type of low competition website.

Or even just spend time and read this thread http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...s-learned.html as GS and this are very similar.

Briefly I'm looking for anything that gets 1000 visitors or more a month with really low competition.

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Steven Carl Kelly

15 years ago

I put up a product site at the end of June that is an Amazon affiliate site focusing on a specific line of $1000+ products. Pages for that site out-rank Amazon's own pages for the same product.

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