Which domain is better?

9 years ago

Hi,

It depends what is your approach.

Do you think you can provide enough content on Philosophy to your audience by selecting such domain?

When you plan to build an Authority Site, you may have to decide something about it, such as how better can you do it.

Philosophy as a subject/topic itself may be huge.

Here is my suggestion:
If you are planning to working with a team who are interested in the Philosophy. Not just that, if you have group of friends/people who can provide you enough content or can work with you, then selecting such a domain for a big blog can be a good idea.

If you are planning to work alone on it, it would be better to find a sub category of Philosophy by looking for "Kinds of Philosophy" and find a branch in which you feel you can deliver good content to audience.

This way you will have one of the Authority site on, For Example: you can have a domain like PhilosophyofMind or PhilosophyofLanguage

This way you will also receive targeted audience as traffic to your site who are interested in that specific form of Philosophy.

It is good to do some research, here can be a good read for you: Branches of Philosophy { Philosophy Index }

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Adorer 9 years ago

Hello blogginglife,

Thank you for your feedback. The website will be big and will have many contributors. It will cover all branches of philosophy, provide a wiki, forum etc... take a look at www.philosophyonline.net Given the added info; which one out of the three do you think will be better, considering, of course, SEO and over all user impression?

Let me just say, that if the if the .ooo was .com I would not have a question. But, I am not sure how the new tlds will function with Google's algorithm.

Which is better a XXXOnline.net or an EMD with a new tld xxx.ooo or .club or .space?
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- blogginglife 9 years ago
  
  Hi Adorer,
  
  Your domain PhilosophyOnline.net would be better choice.
  
  I think one of the factor we have to apply is a domain name has to be easy to remember. So whenever you get visitors they may remember the site name easily compared to one with .com you asked.
  
  Having .com domain has been a great choice while .net is still not too bad.
  
  So, this above suggested domain can be better for Visitors and SEO the same time.
  
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  Adorer 9 years ago
  
  Yes, specialists will not have a problem at all remembering 'symposium' but the newbies and the public at large would. So, it's a good point you make there.
  
  What about the gTLD .ooo with the exact name.
  
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  blogginglife 9 years ago
  
  Yes, there are still so many new TLDs.
  
  While for a long term business, you may have to think about it.
  
  If after 5 to 10 years you plan to auction or sell your site.
  
  I think your site would have more value with a .net TLD compared to a new.
  
  As .com .net and .org have been common and famous for a long time.
  
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annewilliams123

9 years ago

I think you must stick to .com, in case you wants to expand your business, there will not be traffic and ranking problem.

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Adorer 9 years ago

Originally Posted by annewilliams123

I think you must stick to .com, in case you wants to expand your business, there will not be traffic and ranking problem.

So are you saying, philosophysymposium.com will be best?
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flukmani

9 years ago

Absolutely EMD's are much better than TLD's as well as effective

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Adorer

9 years ago

Originally Posted by flukmani

Absolutely EMD's are much better than TLD's as well as effective

You mean in my consideration I should give more weight to the EMD than to the TLD? So, let's say: philosophy.ooo is better than philosophysymposium.com? Do you think Google will give the new TLDs a fair shake?

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paulgl

9 years ago

Why are these questions still coming?

The question makes no sense.

Google gives every domain a "fair shake." They could care less.

Which is better for a travel site:
kayak.com or topmostbesttraveldeals.com?

Sure, 99% of you would pick #2....go figure.

But the real world of real companies does not work like like that.

99% of you fail, and that's a low estimate. Why? Because you
care more about a friggin' domain than actually doing research and
hard work developing the site.

I wonder what philosophy.com sells. Hint: It aint philosophy. And if you
have philosophy in a domain, there's a chance that people (and
perhaps google, although small) would think you are selling the
same type of products.

If you are NOT running philosophy symposiums, why on earth would
you want that in the first place?

Philosophy just begs for a little creative thinking. Just like the people
who picked zillow.com to be the biggest real estate site in the universe.

Paul

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Adorer

9 years ago

Originally Posted by paulgl

Why are these questions still coming?

The question makes no sense.

Google gives every domain a "fair shake." They could care less.

Which is better for a travel site:
kayak.com or topmostbesttraveldeals.com?

Sure, 99% of you would pick #2....go figure.

But the real world of real companies does not work like like that.

99% of you fail, and that's a low estimate. Why? Because you
care more about a friggin' domain than actually doing research and
hard work developing the site.

I wonder what philosophy.com sells. Hint: It aint philosophy. And if you
have philosophy in a domain, there's a chance that people (and
perhaps google, although small) would think you are selling the
same type of products.

If you are NOT running philosophy symposiums, why on earth would
you want that in the first place?

Philosophy just begs for a little creative thinking. Just like the people
who picked zillow.com to be the biggest real estate site in the universe.

Paul

Paul, I don't know why you are getting irritated. Neither Google nor the internet are the real world but are programs that reflect it. In the real world, people would not necessarily confuse 'philosophy' with a skin care product, yet, you say Google may. Obviously, Google is merely a directory program designed to filter information to return the best match for the search.

It's important for a website to show up in the search results in the internet. Otherwise, it's just going to remain a private website. So, yes, how Google works must be taken under consideration.

Now, that second choice you presented, well, that is ridiculous, but people figured out the programming and started SEO back in the days. Fortunately, Google tweaked it's programming to prevent such manipulations and return better results (eliminate spamming). However, the fact of the matter is the EMDs are still given weight, not as much as before, but they are still given weight along with other considerations , e.i. content and links. I did not pull this out of the hat, I have been doing research and based on many articles I have read, the word is the EMTs are still given more weight.

It is not a matter of not caring about the site and it's content, but, one also needs to consider SEO as it is important to rank and show up in the SERP. I am just wondering all things considered which would be better, to go with a new tld, an xxxOnline.net or a long .com That is the question and it is valid and worth considering.

Matt from Google said that the new tlds will not be given any advantage. I think he may have been referring to the brand TLDs not the generic one (see article below). At some point Google may use the brand TLDs like .photography to categorize the sites but it does not seem as though they will be given an advantage in the brand just because it is in that category.

Now, you mentioned, Zillow and you make a good point. If one has a good short brandable .com domain it has the advantage of being short, memorable and .com. I don't have one that would match a philosophy site right now.

I think I will just forward the new tld perfect match domain and the long .com to philosophyonline.net

What really annoys and irritates me is knowing philosophy.com is owned by some 'friggin' beauty product company.

Here is a good article about the new tlds: What will the new top-level domains mean for SEO? | MyCustomer

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paulgl

9 years ago

Philosophy.com is owned by a beauty company named philosophy.
Just like apple.com is owned by a company called apple. They
don't sell fruit, nor does philosophy.com talk about philosophy.

Contrary to what you think, those are real companies in a real world.

If you think sites like kayak, amazon, ebay, zillow, etc. were NOT started by
people like you, think again. They could care less about a domain.

You are here on the warrior forum. They use warriorforum.com. They did
not think of some lame-Oh domain about internet marketing. Ditto
digital point. And yet, they both rule the niche. If you think they were not
small when they started, then you are indeed out of touch with the real
world, and that would explain a lot.

I could care less about some spammed link about TLDs. I look at what
is happening in the internet search world, namely google.

Google does not show kayak.com for people looking for kayaks.

Do tad bit of research. Google is the real world of search. Period.

Paul

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Adorer

9 years ago

Originally Posted by paulgl

If you think sites like kayak, amazon, ebay, zillow, etc. were NOT started by
people like you, think again. They could care less about a domain.

I appreciate the .com and a short, catchy, brandable domain. I just don't have one. The question was which one to choose (between philosophyonline.net or philosophysymposium.com or philosophy.ooo) in lieu of catchy, short, memorable, brandable .com

There is a .com in the choice but it is long. Then their is philosophy but in a new tld and finally, there is PhilosophyOnline.net which is aged and is ranked.

Well, a .com would certainly eliminate the question of how will Google handle the new tlds. I don't think they have decided as of yet themselves. But, the dot com I have is long, so it is a matter of weighing the negativity of the long domain with the negativity which may come with the new tld (.ooo) the xxxonline.net

I partially agree, specifically in regards to a brand and to basically pick what you like (and I assume you would say definitely in a dot com) and just work on the site. But, I disagree with you when you say that EMTs and TLDs do not matter. If they did not matter the Russian billionaire would not have paid millions for vodka.com

Originally Posted by paulgl

I could care less about some spammed link about TLDs. I look at what
is happening in the internet search world, namely google.

Google does not show kayak.com for people looking for kayaks.

Well, kayak.com comes up #9 in a search for kayaks.

CatholicOnline.net is an established brand. And, EMTs still have a little weight. Well, you have very strong feelings about not paying any attention to any weight the domain may carry, I respect you sentiments.

Anyway, I can go for a sweet, memorable, short, catchy name. I am actually looking into purchasing Akademia.com reminiscent, of course, of Plato's academy. But, I don't know if the lady is selling nor if I will be able to afford it.

I do own a sweet dot com: www.philothea.com it means "Lover of God" and, of course, philosophy means " Lover of Wisdom" What do you think of philothea for a philosophy website? It's a dot com and it's not so long. And, afterall, God is Wisdom itself.

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Adorer

P.s. I just googled akamedia and sites that have akamedia in the domain come up in the top ten. See what I am saying? They still carry weight and it is a factor worth considering in selecting a domain.

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Slade556

9 years ago

I agree with Paul. I think domain names are important but are not all that matters, and you probably should just stick to the catchiest domain name of all (which is a subjective matter in the end).

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Adorer

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Slade556

I agree with Paul. I think domain names are important but are not all that matters, and you probably should just stick to the catchiest domain name of all (which is a subjective matter in the end).

I don't think a domain name is all that matters, but, it needs to be considered, right?

I guess what needs to be done is to put aside the new tlds as no one including Google knows how they will all fit. Time will tell. So that will bring it down to the long dot com and the xxxonline.net

Now, I am also considering www.Philothea.com it's a dot com, one word and it may actually be perfect for a philosophy, religious studies website. Do you think it's catchy enough, or should I go shorter?

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emptee

9 years ago

Personally, I think shorter domain names aren't as important as people think. For most websites anyway.

Sure - if you're 3M or apple.. and you have real world advertising driving people to your site, it's important. But if you're just a relatively small outfit and are unlikely to grow into some massive, monster of an organization.. I don't think it matters much.

I read a study, which claimed that most people aren't typing in the domain any more anyway - they search for the brand.. so shorter names might work against you if someone is SEOing the the shorter term.

If you're existing domain already has some good backlinks and a little bit of reputation.. I wouldn't mess with it personally.

Michael

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Adorer 9 years ago

Thank you all for your contribution, I truly appreciate being able to discuss with you all. I am going to pass on the new TLDs for now and the long.long, dot com and stay with the xxxOnline.net.

I do appreciate the short dot com and I did try to be a little creative and come up with something but many have gone down this road already. I considered "aletheia" which means truth in Greek but the dot com is taken. And, amongst others, I considered Akademia and even academia but it's all taken. I thought of creating a word such as sophiaki - a play on the -ki Greek ending which is diminutive so sophiaki = little wisdom. I think it is best to consult my Greek friends in Crete once I come up with a long enough list of creative brands. In the meanwhile, I will remain with www.philosophyonline.net

Once again, thank you Paul, Michael, blogginglife, Slade556, flukmani and AnnWilliams123. It's great to be able to share in this decision and you all helped.

Mercy.
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aallendewett

9 years ago

Index of /
Average Monthly Searches for 'PhilsophySymposium" 20

- If .com domain is available, you must buy it either use it or not, but the searches are low therefore I will not recommend you. But if you want to make it a brand name you can go for it.

www.PhilosophyOnline.net (ranking 3) I already started to work at this domain but, am considering the other two options before putting up the vBulletin.
Average Monthly Searches for "Philosophy Online" 590

- You can buy it.

www.Philosophy.ooo
Average Monthly Searches for 'Philosophy" 550,000

- Dont invest too much money to buy single word domains. You can have it if you already have it.

Try to choose a domain name which represent what you do & make it a brand name. Avoid EMD domains. If you are offering SEO service, get such domains:

MarkSEO.com
MarkBackLinks.com

Make a combination of your brand and keyword which you are targeting.

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