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All In One vs Yoast

by BIBI15
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hello folks,


I am running my website using wordpress, for long time i was using all in one seo tool, but now most of my friends suggested to use WordPress SEO by Yoast.
how do you think which one is better in term of indexation? Crawling / Accessibility? and so on??

which one do you use?

ps. if i change my seo plugin from all in one to yoast will it cause any problems to my rankings?
#yoast
  • Profile picture of the author SEO-Dave
    Neither of those plugins have a major impact on what you mentioned.

    Yoast/All In One won't make a major change to indexing, the XML sitemap will give Google another way to find your pages, but it's not a major SEO factor having what is in effect a webpage will all the pages you want indexed on a WordPress site. The vast majority of WordPress installs that lack a sitemap will be fully indexed by Google due to Googlebot following links to and through your site.

    Been doing SEO for over 10 years, only one of my 100+ domains has an XML sitemap (for SEO testing) and they aren't important as long as your internal link structure allows Google easy access (really easy to achieve). No harm in having an XML sitemap, but don't expect it to have a major SEO impact.

    On rankings the only SEO impact those plugins have is changing your articles title tags, so rather than having the WordPress post title as a title tag it uses the Yoast/All In One title tag instead. That's it, that's all it does.

    If you call a post "Best SEO Plugin" without the plugins the title tag will be "Best SEO Plugin". If you set the Yoast/All In One title tag to "Best SEO Plugin" the title tag will still be "Best SEO Plugin".

    So the title tag features only have an SEO impact if you name your posts poorly (do you name your posts poorly?).

    If you do name your posts poorly consider all your internal links will use the poorly thought out WordPress post title as anchor text: internal anchor text is very important and Yoast/All In One can't fix your post title mistakes. With most WordPress themes if you want the best internal anchor text you have to set the WordPress post title with SEO in mind. Note: the theme I develop (Stallion Responsive) is the only theme I know of that uses the Yoast/All In One SEO title tags data for internal links anchor text which opens up the possibility of targeting derivative SERPs via internal anchor text.

    The other features within the plugins are fluff, meta description tags do not increase rankings, meta keywords ignored, using the noindex/nofollow features is SEO damaging (wastes link benefit). Social network features, no direct SEO impact.

    I find it very interesting so many people think these plugins are the be all and end all of WordPress SEO when they do very little. You can easily match what they do just by making sure all your WordPress post titles are set to the main SERP targeted by a post.

    David
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    • Profile picture of the author Dellco
      That's pretty much correct, SEO-Dave. These plugins do little; it's all marketing.

      And I will add that Yoast is even trying to steal users of another XML plugin, the venerable Google XML Sitemaps plugin (author is Arne Brachold) by recommending all his users to deactivate that plugin and switch over to his. If you have both plugins on, the Yoast plugin will NAG you to switch...

      What an arrogant d*ck head in my opinion.
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      • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
        SEO-Dave, thanks for these posts. I think I'll just start to whack every "Yoast vs. X" person to the head with this thread.

        Originally Posted by Dellco View Post

        If you have both plugins on, the Yoast plugin will NAG you to switch...
        Eliminating unneeded code form the system makes it more lightweight, and might even help SEO. Granted, it's probably not that much code, but it's still there.

        All sorts of plugins throw messages about all sorts of things. I find it a bit odd that you object to this one so much. From my perspective I can say that you're not exactly wrong about what you say about Yoast (or Joost), but this example isn't enough to reach that conclusion.
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        Links in signature will not help your SEO. Not on this site, and not on any other forum.
        Who told me this? An ex Google web spam engineer.

        What's your excuse?
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        • Profile picture of the author SEO-Dave
          Originally Posted by nettiapina View Post

          SEO-Dave, thanks for these posts. I think I'll just start to whack every "Yoast vs. X" person to the head with this thread.
          In my experience it's a waste of time, the WordPress community understands SEO so poorly having an easy to use SEO plugin equates to the Best SEO plugin.

          Webmasters in general still believe meta tags are important, they don't understand nofollow deletes link benefit, noindex wastes link benefit, internal anchor text is important, performance/site speed is important...

          What they want to hear is use either Yoast or All In One SEO and any WordPress theme and you've done everything you can SEO wise.

          It's interesting that you can't really say which is the best of those two plugins SEO wise, because they do so little SEO wise they have about the same amount of value (very little).

          Here's a question for any Yoast/All In One SEO user.

          You are using the default WordPress theme, you create a post with the WordPress title: What is the Best WordPress SEO Plugin in 2015?

          You want the phrase "What is the Best WordPress SEO Plugin in 2015?" as the title shown by Google (in a Google search), why would you install the Yoast/All In One SEO plugin(s) and how would you improve the posts/sites SEO using those plugins?

          David
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          • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
            Originally Posted by SEO-Dave View Post

            In my experience it's a waste of time, the WordPress community understands SEO so poorly having an easy to use SEO plugin equates to the Best SEO plugin.
            Probably true. However, I was thinking about this WF marketer crowd who stress about stuff like this without realizing how pointless that is when they should be pushing out content or just generally hustling away.

            Then again, much of this crowd is looking for silver bullets and push-button solutions. Those people want to install "the best" without even knowing what it does, and they want the latest shiny object to masturbate with.
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            Links in signature will not help your SEO. Not on this site, and not on any other forum.
            Who told me this? An ex Google web spam engineer.

            What's your excuse?
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  • Profile picture of the author SEO-Dave
    What I find most interesting when reading forum threads related to WordPress an SEO there's always a bunch of posts saying use Yoast/All In One SEO, BUT they never explain how it will increase organic search engine traffic.

    The WC3 Total Cache Plugin isn't an SEO plugin per se, but I can easily list half a dozen good SEO reasons for using that plugin:

    Combine CSS/JS files = SEO value
    Minify CSS/Js files = SEO value
    Minify HTML = SEO value
    Cache browser requests = SEO value
    Compress HTML = SEO value
    All the above make a site run faster = SEO value

    It's very easy to argue using that plugin has significant SEO value. Can do the same for image optimization plugins, lazy loading image plugins, themes that are mobile friendly.

    I'd love to see those who recommend Yoast/All In One as the be all and end all of SEO to compile a list of SEO value.

    I can easily make a list how the major SEO plugin cause SEO damage if used incorrectly. The list of SEO positives are tiny:

    Alternative title tag : could have SEO value.
    Meta description tag : could increase click through from Google, but not rankings per se.
    XML sitemap : easy way for Google to access all webpages, tiny if any SEO value.

    That's it, the rest is fluff or SEO damaging.

    Going for advanced WordPress SEO we'd be discussing removing nofollow links (those added by WordPress), silo SEO of internal links, caching Gravatars (that can have a major impact on PageSpeed Insight results), minimizing database queries. And with WordPress 4.2 we have some useless inline javascript code added in the head for Emoji support with no built in option to turn it off!! Looks like I'll be doing a Stallion Responsive update to easily disable Emojis as the javascript will slow a site down for no gain if you don't want them.

    David
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  • Profile picture of the author loladohertye
    Right now i am using All In One. Actually i was used to Yost but in Yost many problems.
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    • Profile picture of the author Slade556
      Originally Posted by loladohertye View Post

      Right now i am using All In One. Actually i was used to Yost but in Yost many problems.
      What sort of problems are you talking about?
      I've been using Yoast for a long time now and I've never had any trouble with it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Surajrai
    Can anyone share step by step guidance to use Yoast (please don't refer yoast own link/default link)? I want experts' tips and guidelines to use it.
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