Ranked 5th page google...Few Weeks Time...Moderate Effort. Steps From Scratch

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Hey guys!

I want to inform you the little I did to rank high in Google so far.

The point of this post is to show what is potentially possible from a brand new site...starting from 0! No page authority, rank, posts, backlinks..etc. If you can get a picture of the potential here, then you can see the potential possibilites.

This may be a better help for newbies..

I just started my site and it's already 5th page of Google and I barely did anything major. I'm planning to optimize it for further increase in rank and hope to get first page of Google.

The site is only about a few weeks old and I only spent a small portion of the day to get my website started.


I want to share my experience so far and an overview of what I did.

1) Choose a profitable niche!

2) Use a synonym finder to get some keyword ideas going.

3) Created a list of keywords and checked Google for how many results showed for a given keyword.

4) I picked a keyword and checked the "intitle" search on Google. Tried to make sure search results were under 1,000.

5) I also check "inanchor" keywords and checked how many search engine results there were.

6) Step 4 & 5 told me how many sites had my chosen keyword in their title, and how many keywords had my keyword as anchor text.

7) I chose a keyword based on my above results(4,5).

8) I took that keyword and submitted it to a keyword researcher on Fiverr for $5.

9) Once my research was delivered, I chose keywords with low competition and a fair amount of search results.

10) I created a website with keyword in domain url.

11) I created 3 posts with the keywords optimized.

12) I added seo yoast plugin on Wordpress.

13) I used seo yoast plugin to edit meta tag description( i haven't done for each of my posts buy plan to if needed).

14) I used keyword as category label.

15) I used keyword as post tag.

16) I linked to my other posts at the end of my posts.

17) I submitted to social media websites Maybe about 30-40.

18) Added a sitemap(it helps google crawl your site says Google!)

That's basically it....so far...I can still do a lot of things to further my progress...but it only was 2 weeks I spent just few time within the last few weeks due to studies.

Plan to do:

18) Add related niche images.

19) Further edit meta tag descriptions

20) Add new posts to social media sites

21) Add more seo optimized content.

22) Once dominate one keyword...move on to another keyword.


Remember guys, I didn't spend a whole lot of time on this website...and it's only been up for maybe 2 weeks or so. I'm going from page 4-5...then back to 4 then to 5.

So I feel I'm off to a great start......What do you think?

Yes I know 5th page won't get me many views..but I'm just showing what's possible for a brand new site......do you think it's possible to rank higher faster for a new website?

In your experience how fast did it take you to rank first for a new website?
#google #ranked #weeksbarely
  • Profile picture of the author kk075
    No offense my friend, but 5th page Google rankings for unpopular keywords is not something to brag about just yet. If others are not actively using that exact phrase in their titles and at least once in the content, then you should definitely get indexed on the first page of Google immediately if the content is any good.

    For example, I made up a phrase in a blog post yesterday as an example of how SEO really works, and it instantly ranked #2 overall....and it's danced between #1 and #3 since then. This was using a specific phrase once almost 1,800 words deep in the content, and it's not mentioned in the title or the page name or anywhere else on my site. But it's not ranking well because of the term itself or any secret techniques, it's ranking solely because of the quality of the content surrounding it.

    While 5th page in Google is definitely a good start, hopefully you realize that you will get zero visibility from that alone. So even with alt tags in images and other optimizations, you still have a very long way to go to actually start seeing some traffic.
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    • Profile picture of the author ashareef7
      Originally Posted by kk075 View Post

      No offense my friend, but 5th page Google rankings for unpopular keywords is not something to brag about just yet. If others are not actively using that exact phrase in their titles and at least once in the content, then you should definitely get indexed on the first page of Google immediately if the content is any good.

      This was using a specific phrase once almost 1,800 words deep in the content, and it's not mentioned in the title or the page name or anywhere else on my site. But it's not ranking well because of the term itself or any secret techniques, it's ranking solely because of the quality of the content surrounding it.

      While 5th page in Google is definitely a good start, hopefully you realize that you will get zero visibility from that alone. So even with alt tags in images and other optimizations, you still have a very long way to go to actually start seeing some traffic.
      I think you know there's a big difference between brand new site ranking and established blog, depending on age of blog, pr, etc.

      I realize I probably will get zero visibility.

      I DO agree with one thing you said though, yes the blog content is very important(and it may or may not be impressive that you ranked 1-3 on the keyword by using the phrase just once in 1800 word deep into the content....but honestly..you can't compare your keyword ranking with mine....not only the page authority...but every keyword is different in terms of competition.

      I do "thanks"you mentioned high quality content...and the importance of great content. 1800 word is a lot..and if you can write great content of 1800 and rank that's great.

      The point of the post though.......,is the blog is completely new, so no authority or pagerank, and it's still possible.

      No establishment of previous internet prescense.

      The point of the post was to encourage others.....to show a time frame starting from complete scratch(that includes no page authority).

      You say your blog ranked for a keyword you made up...but how long has your blog been up for is the real question? That can't be compared to what I'm doing because this is not my 'blog'. I just created this so I'm starting from scratch....also in regards to page authority.

      The point is...for newer marketers...they can see look....if i got this far from scratch in 2weeks..how much potential is there..
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      • Profile picture of the author kk075
        Originally Posted by ashareef7 View Post

        I think you know there's a big difference between brand new site ranking and established blog, depending on age of blog, pr, etc.
        I purchased the domain about 8 months ago....it was a completely blank slate with no prior history, no backlinks, etc. Then I installed a theme and wrote five core pages (home, 3 categories and an about). At that point, I was also in the top 50 for each page, and top 5 for terms like "<city> copywriter". This was with zero backlinks, zero directory links, no social pushes and no traffic. PR0.

        The following week, I broke each of the three main categories down into 4-5 sub categories each, gave a brief description on the main page, and then gave a full description on each sub-page. That brought my site to around 20 pages total, still with no backlinks, and I ranked #1-10 for every main service except web design. And again, this is with very little traffic except organic clicks and people I handed business cards to.

        Over the following 5 months, I posted 5 blogs total. I listed it out in local directories. I registered for Google Places for Business, and I got about 15 backlinks. Seven of them show up in Alexa/Moz.....5 .coms, 1 .edu and 1 .gov. This brought me to #1 for everything but the "web design" keyphrases, which were all in the 20's-30's.

        Then about 2 months ago, I started blogging seriously....aiming for a blog every other day. No word counts; I just wrote what the topic needed to be complete- which ranged from 400 words to 1500. I also start sharing on social channels (linkedin, google+, facebook, etc). After 15 additional blogs, the "web design" keyphrases were around the mid teens and everything else was #1-3...over half of my 65+ phrases were #1 overall.

        About a month ago, one of my posts here got a lot of traction...so I wrote a case study about it and posted it on my site. Even though I never once mentioned the words "web design" in it, the traffic from that one blog got me in the top 10 for most of those keywords. Still 7 backlinks. Lots of traffic and page views though.

        Also in that one month, I went from 21M on Alexa to 1.3M. I went from a 12 domain authority to a 35. All my stats exploded strictly off of the content.

        Then last week I wrote a complete SEO guide of about 3100 words (which hit all my keyprhases lightly). It instantly ranked #4 on Google overall for "2015 SEO strategy guide", passing Moz, Inbound and several other names that should blow me completely out of the water. My content was better though so I won. And that post got all my "web design" keyphrases to the top 8 overall, plus I'm getting about 15-25 organic visitors a day for phrases I had never targeted before.

        Still seven total backlinks showing though and about 20 social signals per day. I'm averaging around 80-100 organic hits a day too, plus another 15-30 hits a day from referrals (blogs, directories, etc.).

        So while my site is 8 months old, I've worked it hard for about 7 weeks total...just focusing on killer content and proper optimization. I repeat that process for my clients every single week and on average, I can have a new domain in the top 5-7 slots in 4-6 weeks total. All off great content....that's all it takes.

        Now, I will mention one other thing that may give me an advantage; I haven't been able to prove it yet either way. I have at least one article on just about every authority site out there since I've been writing online for 10+ years, plus I'm on some Fortune 500 blogs and a few national media sites as an expert in marketing. So Google Authorship could be what pushes my sites so quickly to the top- I'm not 100% sure. They say Authorship is still very much alive behind the scenes so that could be a wild card, but I have no way to prove or disprove it either way.

        Either way though, I can tell you that content is the only thing that matters....because that's all your visitors really care about. So forget the term SEO- just focus on awesome content and the rest will take care of itself. I am one of the top "optimization experts" in the Carolinas and I tell the exact same thing to every single one of my clients....if they have a solid writer on staff, they really don't need me past a little consulting.

        Also, I'm not saying this to brag, but to show everyone that content is truly king. People say that every day but nobody really takes it to heart....and then their site gets passed by a noob with seven backlinks on an 8 month old domain. So I really hope that helps you guys...just get a great writer on your side and you're home free.
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    • Profile picture of the author ashareef7
      Originally Posted by kk075 View Post

      No offense my friend, but 5th page Google rankings for unpopular keywords is not something to brag about just yet. If others are not actively using that exact phrase in their titles and at least once in the content, then you should definitely get indexed on the first page of Google immediately if the content is any good.

      .
      Even for a new site should I rank first with quality content?

      The keyword is in some of the ranking but not in the titles of the majority.

      These are however, have been in Google index for much longer than my 2 week or so old site.

      Do you think it's possible to rank first just with a quality post?
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  • Not to burst any bubbles but 5th page is not a high rank for Google. Its a start but not a high rank because any ranking past page 2 (and even including page 2) and you might as well be invisible. When I first read this, I thought you were talking about 5th position on the first page, which would be a high rank, depending on your keyword. But also know that a first page ranking on a keyword that no one searches for will also not bring any traffic because then, you'd be in a kingdom of one (as in...the only one searching for that keyword).
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    • Profile picture of the author Steve B
      Ashareef7,

      Congratulations! At least you have a plan, are working the plan, and putting yourself out there. Keep doing it. You will learn as you go and get better results over time.

      Remember to write for the human beings in your audience. Catering to Google or other search engines just to get ranked higher is not the way to build a business.

      Write high quality content that addresses the wants, needs and expressed desires of your readership. It's the very best way to get traffic coming to your web site. Write often and write well.

      It gets easier as time goes on and your site gets filled with excellent content that matters to your followers.

      Congratulations on a nice beginning!

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    • Profile picture of the author ashareef7
      Originally Posted by Michael J Anthony View Post

      Not to burst any bubbles but 5th page is not a high rank for Google. Its a start but not a high rank because any ranking past page 2 (and even including page 2) and you might as well be invisible. When I first read this, I thought you were talking about 5th position on the first page, which would be a high rank, depending on your keyword. But also know that a first page ranking on a keyword that no one searches for will also not bring any traffic because then, you'd be in a kingdom of one (as in...the only one searching for that keyword).
      True...the purpose of this post was not to brag about 5th page...

      The point was to show how fast you can potentially rank....with a brand new website ... 0 authority.

      The point was to show the potential and how little I've done to get these results.

      It also shows the potential I have to move up in ranks.
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      • Profile picture of the author strangebrew1961
        Originally Posted by ashareef7 View Post

        The point was to show how fast you can potentially rank....with a brand new website ... 0 authority.

        The point was to show the potential and how little I've done to get these results.

        It also shows the potential I have to move up in ranks.
        I agree. It's a lot easier to get to the first page from the 5th page, than it is to get there from the 20th page. Good job.
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  • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
    This is a fairly good check list even though I don't agree with everything you said, and some parts would need clarification.

    As others have said, that's not really a high rank. Now your success depends on the direction that your visibility takes. Have you already sort of established the ranking, or is it still changing wildly? Are you stuck there, or can you move higher?

    If your keyword research was indeed good your domain authority probably plays a major role. The new site needs backlinks to rise. And I'm not talking about social media.

    I've done these experiments too. For example, I was able to put a new site in a relatively competitive niche up to a page 2 by just translating some PLR content, and blasting a few links to it. Didn't keep up with the experiment, and the site eventually dropped.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeff Willy
    Good job in getting to the 5th page of Google! Your next goal is to be on the first page, but it may take time, dedication, hard work and effort to get there. Do your homework, analyze your competitors, keep learning more about the effective SEO methods and so on. Entrepreneurs and businessmen never stop learning, as they're the ones who succeed in life. Congratulations!
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  • Profile picture of the author Eagle07
    Originally Posted by ashareef7 View Post


    In your experience how fast did it take you to rank first for a new website?
    Some ranked in as short as 10 days and the best thing is that they are free blogger blog affiliate sites.
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