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Suggestions for new niche site

by MohTawfeek
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hi all,

i've spent more than a month reading about SEO & IM here on WF beside several hours of watching video tuts, and i know that the most common mistake for newbies is targeting wrong keywords. so i'm here asking for some guidance before starting my first project

i'm going start niche( which i'm passionate about) site targeting specific keyword and here's the related infos about it

total search results: 432,000 results
avg monthly searchs: 12000 global count & 6000 US count
competition on google keyword is low
competition on traffic travis is medium difficulty
the top competitor page on search results have PA:42 & DA:42 with 3600 backlinks on it

so, what do u think about it for a first timer, would it be hard?
any suggestions are appreciated
#niche #site #suggestions
  • Profile picture of the author Synnuh
    If you're passionate about it and people spend their money in the market, go for it.

    Do you see anyone doing what you want to do, and think "I can do that better" ?

    The search numbers are for 2 keywords. You'll get more traffic for other keywords later on.

    The Adwords competition (pretty sure TrafficTravis too) are only for paid advertising. They're pretty much irrelevant to SEO rankings.

    Set it up, start writing content and building links.
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    • Profile picture of the author MohTawfeek
      Originally Posted by Synnuh View Post

      If you're passionate about it and people spend their money in the market, go for it.

      Do you see anyone doing what you want to do, and think "I can do that better" ?

      The search numbers are for 2 keywords. You'll get more traffic for other keywords later on.

      The Adwords competition (pretty sure TrafficTravis too) are only for paid advertising. They're pretty much irrelevant to SEO rankings.

      Set it up, start writing content and building links.
      i dont know if i can do better, as you know it's not all about content all i worry about is the SEO level of my opponent
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      • Profile picture of the author Slade556
        Originally Posted by MohTawfeek View Post

        i dont know if i can do better, as you know it's not all about content all i worry about is the SEO level of my opponent
        Why waste your time wondering and doubting yourself, when you could be working on your website as we speak?
        Hypothetical questions don't have an answer. I you're passionate about your niche and want to do this, then just start doing it. What's the worse that could happen?
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        • Profile picture of the author MohTawfeek
          Originally Posted by Slade556 View Post

          Why waste your time wondering and doubting yourself, when you could be working on your website as we speak?
          Hypothetical questions don't have an answer. I you're passionate about your niche and want to do this, then just start doing it. What's the worse that could happen?
          i've a trouble with my paypal verification but it should be fixed this week so i'm stuck at the "information gathering" zone and i'm trying to make benefit of it so i'd have better chances when i start
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  • Profile picture of the author Synnuh
    You're just not in front of them yet?

    Learn what they're doing right, then do it better.

    As far as what I think goes, they're just a baseline for how much work you have to do to get near the top 3.

    It's not how much work you have to do to get traffic and see money coming in.

    Watch them but don't put too much weight on them until you're sitting at #2 or #3.

    Then they're YOUR competition.
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  • Profile picture of the author SEO-Dave
    Realistically only way to know for sure is try it.

    One mistake in your thinking, you aren't targeting just one phrase, every webpage on a domain has the potential to target one or more Google SERPs.

    Let's say you start with a modest 10 webpage site, those pages could be targeting from 10 to 50+ SERPs between them. On my jokes site I have a page about cow jokes which generates over 1,000 visitors a month from around 100 search phrases. They range from a couple of hundred visitors a month (being around 8th for the cow jokes SERP generates over 200 visitors a month) to 1 visitor a month: so most of the cow joke relevant traffic isn't for the main SERP.

    How many you get depends a lot on the content and how good your off site SEO is. If you are a natural at generating backlinks, you'll probably do far better than someone who is awesome at generating content, but useless at backlinks.

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    • Profile picture of the author MohTawfeek
      Originally Posted by SEO-Dave View Post

      Realistically only way to know for sure is try it.

      One mistake in your thinking, you aren't targeting just one phrase, every webpage on a domain has the potential to target one or more Google SERPs.

      Let's say you start with a modest 10 webpage site, those pages could be targeting from 10 to 50+ SERPs between them. On my jokes site I have a page about cow jokes which generates over 1,000 visitors a month from around 100 search phrases. They range from a couple of hundred visitors a month (being around 8th for the cow jokes SERP generates over 200 visitors a month) to 1 visitor a month: so most of the cow joke relevant traffic isn't for the main SERP.

      How many you get depends a lot on the content and how good your off site SEO is. If you are a natural at generating backlinks, you'll probably do far better than someone who is awesome at generating content, but useless at backlinks.

      David
      sure, it will go bigger with time as i'm posting weekly but till now that keyword is the money keyword, and i will try it no matter what but i want to know what i'm facing.
      these numbers BLP:3600, PA:42 & DA:42 can give you an expectation of how competitive it will be or the avg time it will take to take down and thats what i want to know from the experienced warriors
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      • Profile picture of the author SEO-Dave
        Originally Posted by MohTawfeek View Post

        sure, it will go bigger with time as i'm posting weekly but till now that keyword is the money keyword, and i will try it no matter what but i want to know what i'm facing.
        these numbers BLP:3600, PA:42 & DA:42 can give you an expectation of how competitive it will be or the avg time it will take to take down and thats what i want to know from the experienced warriors
        Those numbers mean nothing regarding competitiveness etc... Gives no details about the anhcor text of links, are they related to the SERP targeted, are the links aged or new.

        I assume you've read about PageRank and that it's not been updated in a long time, so though Google still uses PageRank we don't have up to date PR numbers.

        I'm using PR since Google uses PR, Google doesn't use any of the metrics you listed above, those are made up metrics by Moz etc... and so can't be relied upon.

        There are hard SERPs where to realistically be in for a chance you are looking at a PR6+ home page. This doesn't mean if you get a home page to PR6 the SERP is yours, there's so much more to it than just PageRank which is why you can find PR3 pages ranking for competitive SERPs and PR7 pages not in the top 50.

        Since the important factor in making money is traffic that converts don't get caught up with specific highish traffic phrases, you might find a SERP with a lot of traffic takes years or never to rank for. On the other hand a long tail SERP with a handful of visitors a month could take no effort all, could be achieved in a few days.

        I would rather have 100 long tail SERPs which each generate 5 visitors a month (500 visitors a month in total) than one SERP which generates 500 visitors a month. With the latter if the rank drops you loose 500 visitors, to have the same loss all 100 long tail SERPs would have to drop: unless there's a penalty that tends not to happen.

        Target easy SERPs, work your way up to harder SERPs as you build new links: it's the links and their anchor text which power difficult SERPs, building links takes time and they have to age (I've found it takes 9+ months for a new link to pass full link benefit).

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  • Profile picture of the author Synnuh
    Use this time to be in the "content production" zone and start busting out posts for the site.
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