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Sometime I wonder about SEO stuffs

by Devilfish168
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My local country here got many SEO courses short course some even FREE.

( of course we know FREE they might just teach the basic only ) whereas some are paid ones perhaps teach more in depth )

every service claim Out rank your competitor.

Ok let's put an example

A went to SEO course , gain a lot of knowledge and know what he doing yes his site go google first place ( his niche is internet marketing )

B also doing the same routine ( His site also go google first page and niche same in internet marketing )

So now what? let say both of them appear on google page 1 .

and many many competitors also happen go SEO courses etc..
in the end ? What make the one SPECIAL to stand out from the ranking?
#seo #stuffs
  • Profile picture of the author wealthy20
    Try to focus on providing quality content for your target visitors (not for search engines). And try to produce lots of it.

    In my experience you don't need to be in top 10 for all your pages. Most of the time traffic accrues due to the sheer amount of content you're providing. Also having a few long-tailed top 10 rankings will help boost the traffic.

    All these indicators will make your site grow in no time.

    You don't need to focus strictly on SEO right from the start. You should start worrying about backlinks after you start getting the traffic.Of course onpage stuff should be done right from the begininng, but offpage linkbuilding shouldn't be your main concern when starting a site.

    Content and whatever you're offering should be in your top priorities.
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    • Profile picture of the author Devilfish168
      Originally Posted by wealthy20 View Post

      Try to focus on providing quality content for your target visitors (not for search engines). And try to produce lots of it.

      In my experience you don't need to be in top 10 for all your pages. Most of the time traffic accrues due to the sheer amount of content you're providing. Also having a few long-tailed top 10 rankings will help boost the traffic.

      All these indicators will make your site grow in no time.

      You don't need to focus strictly on SEO right from the start. You should start worrying about backlinks after you start getting the traffic.Of course onpage stuff should be done right from the begininng, but offpage linkbuilding shouldn't be your main concern when starting a site.

      Content and whatever you're offering should be in your top priorities.
      Quality contents as help tips , etc no doubt
      but how about the blah blah H1 , H2 , H3 etc and SEO description.

      i know what you mean content still the most important and it naturally will draw some traffic .
      I think really need some patience ? to see a constant traffics isn't?
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      • Profile picture of the author jameskyle
        Originally Posted by Devilfish168 View Post

        Quality contents as help tips , etc no doubt
        but how about the blah blah H1 , H2 , H3 etc and SEO description.

        i know what you mean content still the most important and it naturally will draw some traffic .
        I think really need some patience ? to see a constant traffics isn't?
        That's the problem most people don't know what "quality content" is. A normal internet marketer producing good content shouldn't even be worried about H1,H2,H3 and SEO descriptions.

        "Quality content" is providing content that is optimized so that readers and audiences will willingly want to share your content. And there is actually a very precise science to this as studied by social media firms.

        For example

        1)Title:a good title that entices a reader to click on your page vs a title optimized for search engines.

        No one is going to be excited to read a article called "How to lose weight", however if you title your article "15 easy ways to lose weight starting tomorrow", then you generate more backlinks and traffic naturally.

        2) Images : Infographics vs articles when compared, people are more likely to share and post an infographic because it is visually easier to process.


        These are only two briefly explained however, you will overtime see much more traffic tailoring your content to audiences because you will get traffic from both search engines and high quality brands within your market with larger followings than you who will willingly want to share your content.

        Also it should be noted that you will actually be in control of your traffic if you build your audience on social media so you will not be reliant on search engines to generate traffic for you.
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        • Profile picture of the author Devilfish168
          Originally Posted by jameskyle View Post

          That's the problem most people don't know what "quality content" is. A normal internet marketer producing good content shouldn't even be worried about H1,H2,H3 and SEO descriptions.

          "Quality content" is providing content that is optimized so that readers and audiences will willingly want to share your content. And there is actually a very precise science to this as studied by social media firms.

          For example

          1)Title:a good title that entices a reader to click on your page vs a title optimized for search engines.

          No one is going to be excited to read a article called "How to lose weight", however if you title your article "15 easy ways to lose weight starting tomorrow", then you generate more backlinks and traffic naturally.

          2) Images : Infographics vs articles when compared, people are more likely to share and post an infographic because it is visually easier to process.


          These are only two briefly explained however, you will overtime see much more traffic tailoring your content to audiences because you will get traffic from both search engines and high quality brands within your market with larger followings than you who will willingly want to share your content.

          Also it should be noted that you will actually be in control of your traffic if you build your audience on social media so you will not be reliant on search engines to generate traffic for you.
          hmm true for what you mention.
          but another things is Keywords.

          now people keep mention target long keywords.
          etc here come another discussion let say both a and B target the same keywords

          isn't back to the main thing content? Unless they content is the same?
          than in the end How google going to index , rank their site?
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  • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
    Originally Posted by Devilfish168 View Post

    every service claim Out rank your competitor.
    I'm pretty sure it's "competitors" in plural.

    I don't believe your description is accurate. Who on earth would run a course, and promise results that depend entirely on the student? A bunch of sleazy MLM swindlers? But even disregarding that bizarre premise...

    Do you really truly believe these kind of promises, and expect them to completely match the reality?

    I'm guessing that this kind of language would be borderline illegal in my home country, and could result to a fine if someone complained. But it's you who needs to know better.

    I suggest you avoid watching any infomercials because you'll end up with every crap exercise product created in the last couple of years.
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    • Profile picture of the author GomerMagtibay
      Originally Posted by nettiapina View Post

      I'm pretty sure it's "competitors" in plural.

      I don't believe your description is accurate. Who on earth would run a course, and promise results that depend entirely on the student? A bunch of sleazy MLM swindlers? But even disregarding that bizarre premise...

      Do you really truly believe these kind of promises, and expect them to completely match the reality?

      I'm guessing that this kind of language would be borderline illegal in my home country, and could result to a fine if someone complained. But it's you who needs to know better.

      I suggest you avoid watching any infomercials because you'll end up with every crap exercise product created in the last couple of years.
      Hey, why is MLM dragged here again? MLM put more emphasis on one-on-one personal relationship building while it is in the affiliate marketing field that people are more obsessed with SEO! I've seen more SEO scam artists in the affiliate marketing industry than in the MLM industry so why is MLM name dragged here again? Be careful with your words...
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      • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
        Originally Posted by GomerMagtibay View Post

        Hey, why is MLM dragged here again? MLM put more emphasis on one-on-one personal relationship building while it is in the affiliate marketing field that people are more obsessed with SEO! I've seen more SEO scam artists in the affiliate marketing industry than in the MLM industry so why is MLM name dragged here again? Be careful with your words...
        Because you dragged it? I was talking about scam and used this only as an example, and I'm pretty sure everyone has a mental picture of such a scammer. It's so well-known that shows such as Simpsons have done bits on it. You reacting in such a hysterical manner also speaks volumes - you recognized the picture, didn't you?

        Yes, there's a scam in SEO. Does that make the bad stuff on other fields suddenly A-OK?

        I have reason to be "careful with my words"? Do you not realize how bad that makes you and your field of business sound? Because I've seen forum threads that drag on for literally years because a scam MLM business was criticized, and they got their marks to defend them in every way possible. You know, the kind of imploding operation where the product was sub-par to begin with.

        If your MLM isn't like this, congrats! I do know there's decent companies in that field, too.
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        Originally Posted by GomerMagtibay View Post

        Hey, why is MLM dragged here again? MLM put more emphasis on one-on-one personal relationship building while it is in the affiliate marketing field that people are more obsessed with SEO! I've seen more SEO scam artists in the affiliate marketing industry than in the MLM industry so why is MLM name dragged here again? Be careful with your words...
        You are representing one of the dirtiest of the MLM's out there and you have a problem with someone calling MLM's a scam? Empower Network is a big contributor to people thinking that most MLM's are nothing but scams. Your MLM is so synonymous with scams that places like Facebook will not allow it to be promoted there. In fact, it is not allowed here either.
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        • Profile picture of the author GomerMagtibay
          Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

          You are representing one of the dirtiest of the MLM's out there and you have a problem with someone calling MLM's a scam? Empower Network is a big contributor to people thinking that most MLM's are nothing but scams. Your MLM is so synonymous with scams that places like Facebook will not allow it to be promoted there. In fact, it is not allowed here either.
          But, have you tried MLM or Empower Network yourself?

          EN was once banned in Facebook because "people who don't understand but easy-to-call-EN-a-scam" have reported it is a scam when it fact it is not. I used to believe the same until the day I have tried EN myself.

          Our blog posts are now being shared by our friends in Facebook and it's no longer being blocked or banned.
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          • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
            Originally Posted by GomerMagtibay View Post

            But, have you tried MLM or Empower Network yourself?
            No, but I actually spent some time reading what it doesn't say on the product label for EN at one point just out of curiosity. I would never engage with something like that. The business model seems fishy at best.
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            Originally Posted by GomerMagtibay View Post

            EN was once banned in Facebook because "people who don't understand but easy-to-call-EN-a-scam" have reported it is a scam when it fact it is not. I used to believe the same until the day I have tried EN myself.

            Our blog posts are now being shared by our friends in Facebook and it's no longer being blocked or banned.
            It is still banned on Facebook. Try posting a link to Empowernetwork . com. Facebook won't allow it. The only way links work is they keep creating new domains.

            There is a reason they operate offshore. They would be shut down immediately if they operated in the U.S.
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