Strangest Spam Bot EVER

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I have noticed something strange while hunting down all the spam hits to my site (which have been a pain in my analytics). Normally these bots have a 0 second session duration, a 1 page view, and a 100% bounce rate.

But this particular bot (if it is) has a 3 hour session duration, 6.5 page views, 12.5% bounce rate. Which is really odd. Is it some kind of tactic to keep webmasters from blocking the bot in the htaccess? Or is it some kind of strange real life traffic from a VERY strange source?

It's source is listed as google (without any .com on the end). Its keyword is erot.co (a known spammer), and the network domain is ertelecom.ru.

I am just wondering if this is something I should be blocking, if it may be real somehow, or what?
#bot #spam #strangest
  • Profile picture of the author paulgl
    None of that will have anything to do with ranking.

    You can tweak the results in GA, but that does not block it.
    It does give you a better picture without the crap.

    You can block erot.co, and others, using htaccess. Just google it.

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    • Profile picture of the author jbearnolimits
      Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

      None of that will have anything to do with ranking.

      You can tweak the results in GA, but that does not block it.
      It does give you a better picture without the crap.

      You can block erot.co, and others, using htaccess. Just google it.

      Paul
      I believe bounce rate is a factor in ranking.
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      • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
        Originally Posted by jbearnolimits View Post

        I believe bounce rate is a factor in ranking.
        It's not, at least not that way. Google doesn't even have any way to know the bounce rate for most sites.

        They might track bounces back to their seach engine. That would be relevant.
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        Who told me this? An ex Google web spam engineer.

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        • Profile picture of the author nmwf
          Originally Posted by nettiapina View Post

          It's not, at least not that way. Google doesn't even have any way to know the bounce rate for most sites.

          They might track bounces back to their seach engine. That would be relevant.
          Analytics?!?!?
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          • Profile picture of the author DABK
            And if you don't use Google's analytics?

            Originally Posted by nmwf View Post

            Analytics?!?!?
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            • Profile picture of the author nmwf
              Originally Posted by DABK View Post

              And if you don't use Google's analytics?
              Cookies from a site that does use it. If it isn't analytics, it will be adsense, a Google+ referral, a simple link or any other Google technology.

              You can't escape Google.

              No one can.

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            • Profile picture of the author yukon
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              Originally Posted by DABK View Post

              And if you don't use Google's analytics?
              OP did mention analytics.

              Personally I wouldn't worrying about the junk traffic, every site gets inbound junk, it's not like anyone is going to make it stop.
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              • Profile picture of the author paulgl
                Bounce rate can never in a million years be in on any kind of ranking.

                There are too many intangibles, from the benign to the obvious.

                If people find what they are looking for in 3 seconds on my page, why
                should I be judged differently by a page where people can't make heads
                or tails, waste their time....and somehow their page ranks better because
                people get lost? Hardly.

                Bounce rate for rankings, positive, makes no sense. And any negative
                would be more of a filter, not penalty.

                In the United States, upwards of 25-35% of search traffic comes from
                nongoogle search. Since google has no way of tracking that search
                traffic (bounce rate) they would be fools to use it by ignoring what 35%
                of the people do. And ignoring the majority of sites that do not use GA.

                Google is not as stupid as some people claim.

                Top searches today are how was the greek vote, yes or no?

                I had to find out.

                I just searched that, and guess what? I did not even have to click on a
                site. Every site on list had....what kind of bounce rate? Nonexistent.

                Whoever came up with bounce rate, lived in the same hole as the
                keyword density guy.

                There are too many intangibles to even list for any such nonsense
                about bounce rate.

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          • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
            Originally Posted by nmwf View Post

            Analytics?!?!?
            Which most sites in the world don't use. But thanks for completing my sentences.

            And no, I don't believe that Google's other tools are used for this purpose. For one, someone would have good data that low bounce rate actually helps search optimization, which doesn't seem to exist. At best high bounce rate might correlate with some problems on the site.

            I find it likely that bigger websites use other tracking platforms. There's probably quite a few big-time websites that don't actually use Analytics or any other Google product. Granted, Chrome could provide Google with some spotty data (for users who've decided to register their Chrome), but they'd have to go all "alexa" with these sites. Doesn't seem logical to me.

            You can't escape Google, but their practice of using the collected data for world dominance is completely different matter than using it to rank individual sites. Cutts himself has said that Analytics isn't used in this manner because they want you to feel comfortable using it.
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      • Profile picture of the author DABK
        Why do you believe that?


        Bounce rate is high if people land on your page and call your to buy whatever you're selling on your site (or click on a link to go to the site you're promoting).


        If you have 100% bounce rate for the above reason, you have an awesome website. Why would Google penalize you for that?


        Bounce rate is high if all the people who land on a page on your site get diarrhea the second your page load and rush to the loo and forget about what they were doing.


        Why would Google penalize you for them having bad eating habits?




        Originally Posted by jbearnolimits View Post

        I believe bounce rate is a factor in ranking.
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