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Weird Ranking Questions

by jsmith2482
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On one of my fitness sites I can rank very easy for articles on the workouts or diets of NFL athletes. While the term doesn't get massive search volume, it's very targeted so the term do deliver good traffic.

Now I could write a 100% unique, 2000 word article on cholesterol or organic food and never see a visitor for any search terms.

I don't expect to rank for "how to lower cholesterol" or any huge volume keywords but I'd like to think that I can rank for "lower LDL without lowering HDL" or a another moderate competition long tail keyword.

But that's the issue, I just don't rank for anything other than these no competition keywords.

What gives?
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  • Profile picture of the author jessikaload
    Can't say that ("lower LDL without lowering HDL") is a low competitive keyword. There are high authority websites in the first 10 results.

    Did you do the proper onpage optimizations for your articles

    Publish and PRAY didn't improve your ranks. You should promote your contents and create quality backlinks to your article.
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    • Profile picture of the author MiguelPerkins
      publish article for 1000 words plus it includes key word links etc. and do the more than one work for your sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author chrisjohn93
    Try to prompt your article on social media like Reddit, Stumbleupon, Facebook, Google+, Twitter are the best website to get relevant traffic to your blog. This will increase your traffic as well as ranking of our website in SERP.
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    • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
      Originally Posted by jsmith2482 View Post

      Now I could write a 100% unique, 2000 word article on cholesterol or organic food and never see a visitor for any search terms.
      That's the way it works. If there's authority sites competing for the same kind of content it's hard to get yours to the top.

      100% unique means nothing - you're still using the same words than the authority sites. Google isn't a toddler who copies letters to form a sentence, but an advanced algorithm that tries to dig out the topics of the article. If yours doesn't seem to be relevant and popular enough it just doesn't rank.

      Originally Posted by jsmith2482 View Post

      I don't expect to rank for "how to lower cholesterol" or any huge volume keywords but I'd like to think that I can rank for "lower LDL without lowering HDL" or a another moderate competition long tail keyword.
      So your keyword is something like "lower LDL HDL". I'm not into this scene myself, but that sounds fairly hard. Of course there's the exact match, but I'm not sure if that's something that people search for. And even if they did an authoritative site might have a piece that ranks better than yours.

      Originally Posted by chrisjohn93 View Post

      Try to prompt your article on social media like Reddit, Stumbleupon, Facebook, Google+, Twitter are the best website to get relevant traffic to your blog. This will increase your traffic as well as ranking of our website in SERP.
      You can get traffic, but it has nothing to do with rankings.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mehwish84
    Analyze your on-page seo specially content,is your keyword density,prominence is ok?
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  • Profile picture of the author jsmith2482
    The example of a long tail keyword given "Lower LDL without lowering HDL" was purely an example that I thought of a I typed the post so commenting on that specific keyword doesn't really help.

    It could be ANYTHING "lower ldl without lowering HDL by taking natural herbs that begin with the letter z"".

    Use that as the example.

    So while I understand that authority sites have "similar" content. They don't have 100% the same article with the same content.

    Again, I find it impossibly hard to understand that site with 500 articles and, to knowledge, in good standing with Google can't get traffic from long tail keywords.

    Any useable advice?
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    • Profile picture of the author danparks
      Originally Posted by jsmith2482 View Post

      Any useable advice?
      nettiapina's advice was usable. If there's some good competition for a keyword, even an obscure, low-competition keyword, then your new post won't simply automatically rank.

      Even a unique article on a "site in good standing" usually isn't enough. You need to do something to beat that competition. Try sending some decent backlinks directly to the post.
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      • Profile picture of the author jsmith2482
        Where , in 2015, do you suggest I find "decent" backlinks. Fiverr links are awful and in my experience, and I've spent thousands, in the "Warriors For Hire" section all the SEO "experts" want to tell you that "SEO TAKES TIMES" and while that is true, they use that phrase to mean "pay me month after month for slow, if any results".


        Originally Posted by danparks View Post

        nettiapina's advice was usable. If there's some good competition for a keyword, even an obscure, low-competition keyword, then your new post won't simply automatically rank.

        Even a unique article on a "site in good standing" usually isn't enough. You need to do something to beat that competition. Try sending some decent backlinks directly to the post.
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        • Profile picture of the author danparks
          Originally Posted by jsmith2482 View Post

          Where , in 2015, do you suggest I find "decent" backlinks. Fiverr links are awful and in my experience, and I've spent thousands, in the "Warriors For Hire" section all the SEO "experts" want to tell you that "SEO TAKES TIMES" and while that is true, they use that phrase to mean "pay me month after month for slow, if any results".
          Create your own PBN. Used exclusively for links to just one site (yours), it could be pretty small and still be effective. Certainly wouldn't cost more than the thousands you've already spent.
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    • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
      Originally Posted by jsmith2482 View Post

      So while I understand that authority sites have "similar" content. They don't have 100% the same article with the same content.
      Again, why do you think that matters? No real user gives a toss wether article is "100% unique" in the sense that you're using the phrase, and neither does Google. I suspect you do not have something that anyone else isn't writing about - there's very little new that your average content producer can come up with.

      You're doing harm to yourself by clinging to this foolish notion. The fact that you're not ranking should be enough to prove that what you're doing isn't working.

      Just do a few Google searches. I'm sure you soon find one where Google completely disregards parts of your query string, and gives some results that the algorithm views as relevant to the query.

      It's possible that a niche is so competitive and congested that it's nearly impossible to get a new site to rank by content alone.

      Where to get backlinks? Well, that's the million dollar question. I'd start from your own web properties, from your partners or contacts, or the possibility of getting some bloggers to link to you. Then either bought links, PBN, or something else. There's really no advice that fits everyone.
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      • Profile picture of the author TotalWebsiteControl
        Originally Posted by nettiapina View Post

        Again, why do you think that matters? No real user gives a toss wether article is "100% unique" in the sense that you're using the phrase, and neither does Google. I suspect you do not have something that anyone else isn't writing about - there's very little new that your average content producer can come up with.

        You're doing harm to yourself by clinging to this foolish notion. The fact that you're not ranking should be enough to prove that what you're doing isn't working.

        Just do a few Google searches. I'm sure you soon find one where Google completely disregards parts of your query string, and gives some results that the algorithm views as relevant to the query.

        It's possible that a niche is so competitive and congested that it's nearly impossible to get a new site to rank by content alone.

        Where to get backlinks? Well, that's the million dollar question. I'd start from your own web properties, from your partners or contacts, or the possibility of getting some bloggers to link to you. Then either bought links, PBN, or something else. There's really no advice that fits everyone.

        PBN would probably be the quickest. But remember when a pbn get popular you risk loosing your rankings. BuildMyRank for example lol..
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        • Profile picture of the author danparks
          Originally Posted by TotalWebsiteControl View Post

          PBN would probably be the quickest. But remember when a pbn get popular you risk loosing your rankings. BuildMyRank for example lol..
          I was referring to a Private blog network. The kind you build yourself. For your own use. Not a Public blog network that sells links.
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  • Profile picture of the author MRseo007
    check you on-page seo and seek where your website missing actual point.
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  • Profile picture of the author Avaron Leonhart
    First thing first, did you do proper keyword research before selecting your keywords? What is the monthly search volume of "lower LDL without lowering HDL"?
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  • Profile picture of the author st0nec0ld
    Originally Posted by jsmith2482 View Post

    On one of my fitness sites I can rank very easy for articles on the workouts or diets of NFL athletes. While the term doesn't get massive search volume, it's very targeted so the term do deliver good traffic.

    Now I could write a 100% unique, 2000 word article on cholesterol or organic food and never see a visitor for any search terms.

    I don't expect to rank for "how to lower cholesterol" or any huge volume keywords but I'd like to think that I can rank for "lower LDL without lowering HDL" or a another moderate competition long tail keyword.

    But that's the issue, I just don't rank for anything other than these no competition keywords.

    What gives?
    The thing is you don't expect people to just discover your content in an instant, especially if you're just starting out. You'll still have to let people know that such content exist. The word doesn't stop there.
    If you can be more creative on your content it will help you more.
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