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8 years ago

I pretty much stopped using home page links a long time ago. If you are using a lot of home page links, it is pretty obvious what you are doing.

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inetguru_987

8 years ago

I still use homepage links exclusively and haven't run into any issues. I have over 500 PBNs. I also protect the PBNs from being indexed on sites like Majestic and Ahrefs. One of the biggest issues is someone turning you in. I see lots of people who use PBNs but don't do anything to hide the fact they are doing so. It's very easy to spot. If you want to be extra safe you can mix it up a bit.

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Mike Anthony

8 years ago

Originally Posted by inetguru_987

I still use homepage links exclusively and haven't run into any issues.

Everyone that has got deindexed says this right up to the day before their PBN got all deindexed. IF you have anchor text links on the front page of all your PBNs heed Mike's advice.

its drop dead obvious and there are now so many different link bots out there you won't end up blocking them all/ plus its not true that the home page has to be your strongest page. Most organic domains get links on several pages and you can structure the site to convey that juice to an inside page not just the home page.

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inetguru_987

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Everyone that has got deindexed says this right up to the day before their PBN got all deindexed. IF you have anchor text links on the front page of all your PBNs heed Mike's advice.

its drop dead obvious and there are now so many different link bots out there you won't end up blocking them all/ plus its not true that the home page has to be your strongest page. Most organic domains get links on several pages and you can structure the site to convey that juice to an inside page not just the home page.

Of course they do because it's based on their own experience. 4 years and $4.5 million dollars later I'll stick with what works. When it doesn't I'll readjust.

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Mike Anthony

8 years ago

Originally Posted by inetguru_987

Of course they do because it's based on their own experience. 4 years and $4.5 million dollars later I'll stick with what works. When it doesn't I'll readjust.

Ignoring obvious footprints isn't how doing good PBNs work its just how some get lucky. You can get lucky and not get any taken down but that doesn't say anything.

also - For the record - income claims don't mean much to the regulars here. Its pretty much an IM standard for people to claim all kinds of incomes especially when they are in the make money online by showing others how to make money online niche.

Besides that - each to his own and all I have to say on the subject.

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irawr

Banned 8 years ago

Originally Posted by inetguru_987

I still use homepage links exclusively and haven't run into any issues. I have over 500 PBNs. I also protect the PBNs from being indexed on sites like Majestic and Ahrefs. One of the biggest issues is someone turning you in. I see lots of people who use PBNs but don't do anything to hide the fact they are doing so. It's very easy to spot. If you want to be extra safe you can mix it up a bit.

I'm not going to say it and screw the PBN guys over but if you think that does much you are mistaken. I can find sites doing that very easily. Granted it does take some time, but there's definitely at least one spider you're not going to block.

Originally Posted by inetguru_987

Of course they do because it's based on their own experience. 4 years and $4.5 million dollars later I'll stick with what works. When it doesn't I'll readjust.

But you decided to get a logo done on fiverr for the site in your sig, sure dude.

also:

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I posted a case study the other day, ranked (badly granted) in 3 days with a brand new site with 1 piece of content, oh and no backlinks either. Honestly, I really just posted it so newbies stop believing in insane bullcrap like the "google sandbox" and other insane concepts. Your customers (that you're lying to and probably scamming) might buy into the horsecrap but anybody with any experience at all, won't.

So far on my new project, I'm ranking *faster* then I ever have before, not slower. Keep lying to people to line your pockets dude.

If you think it takes longer, it's because your sites and your backlinks are trash. If the site is untrustworthy then why should google rank it at all? But if it's trustworthy and trustworthy sources are linking to it, then why would google wait to rank it?

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Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

also - For the record - income claims don't mean much to the regulars here. Its pretty much an IM standard for people to claim all kinds of incomes especially when they are in the make money online by showing others how to make money online niche.

They shouldn't mean anything to anybody. I'm not going to tell you what I'm making and it's hard to believe any successful marketer would. I'll be honest about it, I make more then most people, the battle to get to that point was rough, I really don't recommend it to anybody. Seriously, if you're going to make money online do ecommerce or just forget it and stick to offline.

And now that I'm "successful" guess what? It kind of sucks, I'm a slave to it now. My "freetime" is posting here.

I follow the same borderline insane routine every day, communicating with influencers, sourcing content, building new sites, and guess what? I still can't actually afford a lambo yet. I could buy one and seriously tax my buisness, but then I would have to do this garbage for another 5 years before I could move on to something else.

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interwebbuzz 8 years ago

Originally Posted by irawr

And now that I'm "successful" guess what? It kind of sucks, I'm a slave to it now. My "freetime" is posting here.

If you don't mind asking, How long did it take you to become a success? 1 year perhaps?
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  Originally Posted by interwebbuzz
  
  If you don't mind asking, How long did it take you to become a success? 1 year perhaps?
  
  been in IM since 1996
  
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chenbui

8 years ago

Originally Posted by inetguru_987

I still use homepage links exclusively and haven't run into any issues. I have over 500 PBNs. I also protect the PBNs from being indexed on sites like Majestic and Ahrefs. One of the biggest issues is someone turning you in. I see lots of people who use PBNs but don't do anything to hide the fact they are doing so. It's very easy to spot. If you want to be extra safe you can mix it up a bit.

can you show me how to protect the PBNs from being indexed on sites like Majestic and Ahrefs?

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Tomek Kurpanik 8 years ago

Originally Posted by chenbui

can you show me how to protect the PBNs from being indexed on sites like Majestic and Ahrefs?

Put this in:

robots.txt

User-agent: Rogerbot
User-agent: Exabot
User-agent: MJ12bot
User-agent: Dotbot
User-agent: Gigabot
User-agent: AhrefsBot
User-agent: BlackWidow
User-agent: Bot\ mailto:craftbot@yahoo.com
User-agent: ChinaClaw
User-agent: Custo
User-agent: DISCo
User-agent: Download\ Demon
User-agent: eCatch
User-agent: EirGrabber
User-agent: EmailSiphon
User-agent: EmailWolf
User-agent: Express\ WebPictures
User-agent: ExtractorPro
User-agent: EyeNetIE
User-agent: FlashGet
User-agent: GetRight
User-agent: GetWeb!
User-agent: Go!Zilla
User-agent: Go-Ahead-Got-It
User-agent: GrabNet
User-agent: Grafula
User-agent: HMView
User-agent: HTTrack
User-agent: Image\ Stripper
User-agent: Image\ Sucker
User-agent: Indy\ Library
User-agent: InterGET
User-agent: Internet\ Ninja
User-agent: JetCar
User-agent: JOC\ Web\ Spider
User-agent: larbin
User-agent: LeechFTP
User-agent: Mass\ Downloader
User-agent: MIDown\ tool
User-agent: Mister\ PiX
User-agent: Navroad
User-agent: NearSite
User-agent: NetAnts
User-agent: NetSpider
User-agent: Net\ Vampire
User-agent: NetZIP
User-agent: Octopus
User-agent: Offline\ Explorer
User-agent: Offline\ Navigator
User-agent: PageGrabber
User-agent: Papa\ Foto
User-agent: pavuk
User-agent: pcBrowser
User-agent: RealDownload
User-agent: ReGet
User-agent: SiteSnagger
User-agent: SmartDownload
User-agent: SuperBot
User-agent: SuperHTTP
User-agent: Surfbot
User-agent: tAkeOut
User-agent: Teleport\ Pro
User-agent: VoidEYE
User-agent: Web\ Image\ Collector
User-agent: Web\ Sucker
User-agent: WebAuto
User-agent: WebCopier
User-agent: WebFetch
User-agent: WebGo\ IS
User-agent: WebLeacher
User-agent: WebReaper
User-agent: WebSauger
User-agent: Website\ eXtractor
User-agent: Website\ Quester
User-agent: WebStripper
User-agent: WebWhacker
User-agent: WebZIP
User-agent: Wget
User-agent: Widow
User-agent: WWWOFFLE
User-agent: Xaldon\ WebSpider
User-agent: Zeus
Disallow: /

and:

.htaccess

SetEnvIfNoCase User-Agent .*rogerbot.* bad_bot
SetEnvIfNoCase User-Agent .*exabot.* bad_bot
SetEnvIfNoCase User-Agent .*mj12bot.* bad_bot
SetEnvIfNoCase User-Agent .*dotbot.* bad_bot
SetEnvIfNoCase User-Agent .*gigabot.* bad_bot
SetEnvIfNoCase User-Agent .*ahrefsbot.* bad_bot
SetEnvIfNoCase User-Agent .*sitebot.* bad_bot
<Limit GET POST HEAD>
Order Allow,Deny
Allow from all
Deny from env=bad_bot
</Limit>
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Tomek Kurpanik

8 years ago

Isn't blocking access to all ur pbns for seo bots in htaccess a footprint itself?

Originally Posted by inetguru_987

I still use homepage links exclusively and haven't run into any issues. I have over 500 PBNs. I also protect the PBNs from being indexed on sites like Majestic and Ahrefs. One of the biggest issues is someone turning you in. I see lots of people who use PBNs but don't do anything to hide the fact they are doing so. It's very easy to spot. If you want to be extra safe you can mix it up a bit.

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inetguru_987

8 years ago

It might be, but it doesn't block the google bot from crawling the website. I'm not 100% undetectable but I mitigate risk where I can. I feel like having my entire network exposed to every Tom, Dick and Harry is more of a risk. Not sure if you are in competitive niches yourself but negative SEO and turning people in happens a lot in the niches I'm in because of their competitive nature.