Google First Page in 45 minutes - Why?

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Hi all,

Can anyone tell me why, after having four articles on EZine for a week there is no sign of them on google.

But, after submitting the very same articles (no changes to them) to another article directory that I came across by accident, three were on first page for a very competitive keyword (just one word) and the fourth was at the top of page two all in a matter of 45 minutes or so.

I thought the best results came from EZine. Or am I not 'getting it'?

Karen
#google #minutes #page
  • Profile picture of the author ExRat
    Hi Karen,

    There are two things to learn from this -

    a) everything changes online all of the time - not much is static - so we must remain flexible,observant and reactive

    b) you do 'get it' - because you are being observant, testing and tracking and asking questions.

    But quite often, it is also best to answer these questions yourself, if you can. Keep prying and testing this and trying to find the reason, because it might be the case that you have found something that many others are missing.

    If you did, what could you do with that information? (Either for yourself or others, which in turn could benefit yourself?)

    I realise that I haven't directly answered your question, but as you are the person who holds all of the key details of this test, YOU are in the best position to establish the reason.

    But I also wanted to emphasize that you do 'get it' because so many people seem to rely on others to provide their 'knowledge', when in my opinion the key to success is to use initiative and take responsibility for your knowledge and education by using what's out there combined with a healthy amount of curiosity in order to test things and find answers.

    Perhaps Google takes longer to find and index EZA for some reason?

    Perhaps they are applying some sort of penalty?

    Perhaps you made a mistake when searching for your articles?

    Perhaps it's just some kind of anomaly that has no logical explanation, and in further tests you will find a different result?

    Perhaps it's something to do with the differences in the way the sites function/are viewed by the SEs?

    Perhaps EZA has some kind of saturation issue with this niche, whereas the other site doesn't?

    The possibilities are endless. You should try and eliminate as many of them as possible, and draw useful conclusions - then get back to more tests!
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  • Profile picture of the author JeffLam
    Karen,

    On a sidenote, I personally felt that you wrote a very good copy.

    Catchy headline (topic title), very intriguing and curiosity pulling content (not revealing the article directory)...

    All you need now is a "BUY NOW" button with a claim telling people that with this new article directory you are the king/queen of SEO.

    No offense yeah!
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  • Profile picture of the author TheDebtEliminator
    Hello Karen,

    I have sent you a PM requesting 2-articles

    Your service looks very good to me

    Best Regards
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    • Profile picture of the author Karen Connell
      Originally Posted by TheDebtEliminator View Post

      Hello Karen,

      I have sent you a PM requesting 2-articles

      Your service looks very good to me

      Best Regards
      Thank you.

      Will PM you now.

      Karen
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    • Profile picture of the author Martin Luxton
      Karen,

      I would love to know the site as well, but if you posted it here then everybody jumping on it might destroy the very thing that makes it work.

      I'm all in favour of sharing here but to protect your business some things should remain trade secrets.

      Martin
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      • Profile picture of the author Karen Connell
        Originally Posted by Martin Luxton View Post

        Karen,

        I would love to know the site as well, but if you posted it here then everybody jumping on it might destroy the very thing that makes it work.

        I'm all in favour of sharing here but to protect your business some things should remain trade secrets.

        Martin
        Martin,

        I wouldn't tell anyone until I'm confident that I did everything right.

        I have been advised to test and test again - which is exactly what I'm going to do - talk about begnners luck...

        Karen
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      • Profile picture of the author ExRat
        Hi Karen,

        Roger, I am going to do exactly the same again to see if it was a 'fluke' or not but with an entirely different niche.
        Good show!

        If it comes up the same again, using the same variables I'll let you know the directory - maybe...
        Without wanting to sound pedantic, it was the guy below me in the thread who asked.

        As you know, I do my own tests, and I must admit that I don't focus on article directories as much as other 3rd party resources. Plus, (as mentioned in my advice to you) I tend to gloss over most of the information shared by others as I prefer to rely on my own data.

        Ranking high via an article directory or getting indexed quickly is not my primary focus....(I'm patient)....as I mentioned, things change all of the time, and it wouldn't surprise me in the least if search engines play games with us, 'leading us up the garden path' on a regular basis.

        So when I am testing SEO factors, I am careful not to draw conclusions too quickly, in case they're trying to play with me - and also in case it is an anomaly (as mentioned above). If I suspect this, I like to expand the test sideways (as you are) to try and get a much broader picture.

        I see a lot of people putting emphasis on getting indexed quickly (particularly those who are desperately searching for some kind of 'hot-button' in order to sell their 'this will get you indexed quickly' product) but I prefer the 'slow and steady wins the race' approach.

        I also see many who fall for this sales line, over-pinging and over-linking their brand new pages, as if 'shouting loudest and shouting the most' is the best way to be heard. In my experience, people, and search engines which are programmed by people, don't appreciate that method and often penalise it or possibly use it as a 'flag' (in terms of SEs).

        They are mainly listening out for other people who are talking positively about those new pages, rather than people 'talking', or shouting, about their own.

        In summary, I don't care so much about getting indexed quickly or grabbing a temporary position in the SEs via someone elses web property. I'm more concerned with getting my own property ranked, holding my position long term without maintenance, and fighting off and frustrating those who are doing everything they can to usurp my position - IE 'shouting' their heads off, while I 'sweet-talk' my way to the top.
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  • Profile picture of the author Karen Connell
    Thanks Guys,

    The silly thing is - it's the very first time I've submited any articles - I spend all my time writing them and decided to bite the bullet and submit some myself to promote my own stuff.

    Roger, I am going to do exactly the same again to see if it was a 'fluke' or not but with an entirely different niche. If it comes up the same again, using the same variables I'll let you know the directory - maybe...

    Mike, I hope I have found gold - but I can't help thinking that it was probably just lucky!

    Jeff, If I can prove it to myself, 'buy now' button to follow

    Thanks all

    Karen
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  • Profile picture of the author alucard001
    Agree with Exrat that everything is not static today. But it seems that you have discovered a way to get the first page to google.

    The reason of this? who knows? But I will suggest you to duplicate this process and see if this is constantly occured. If it is the case, document them and sell your discovery.

    Good Luck
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  • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
    Originally Posted by Dhrousha View Post

    Hi all,

    Can anyone tell me why, after having four articles on EZine for a week there is no sign of them on google.
    Hey there..

    Only Google can really tell you this..

    But by doing your own testing and watching your content like this, you are putting yourself in a better position for next time and can work your content in a much more productive way.

    But, after submitting the very same articles (no changes to them) to another article directory that I came across by accident, three were on first page for a very competitive keyword (just one word) and the fourth was at the top of page two all in a matter of 45 minutes or so.
    This happens often... but sometimes it happens the other way around.

    I've had EZA content indexed really quick before.. so it really is a case of testing with your own content to see what is best for you.

    I thought the best results came from EZine. Or am I not 'getting it'?
    A common misconception, one which many people are coming to realise isn't exactly gospel..

    Karen...

    Please tell me you submitted the content on your own website first?.. Right now, you could be on page one of Google with your own website for that content, without the aid of an article directory.

    Peace

    Jay
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    • Profile picture of the author Karen Connell
      Originally Posted by JayXtreme View Post


      Karen...

      Please tell me you submitted the content on your own website first?.. Right now, you could be on page one of Google with your own website for that content, without the aid of an article directory.

      Peace

      Jay
      Jay,

      Yes I did put it on my own website first (even before EZA) but it is a very new one so I expect it takes longer to index?

      Karen
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      • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
        Originally Posted by Dhrousha View Post

        Jay,

        Yes I did put it on my own website first (even before EZA) but it is a very new one so I expect it takes longer to index?

        Karen
        that's so good to know!

        Sometimes, it can take longer to get an index....

        Building backlinks to the article and your site can help with this... don't wait for Google to come find your content.

        Show it the door and invite that big Robot in

        Peace

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  • Profile picture of the author BIG Mike
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    There is a gross misconception out there that only the biggest services are the ones worth posting anything to. Not true at all...

    Yes, you can often use the more popular services to get indexed quickly, but that by no means ensures you'll remain at a given rank for any length of time.

    You did well and I agree with Martin...if you've found a site to post to that works, keep it to yourself before it loses it's value.
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    • Profile picture of the author Karen Connell
      Originally Posted by BIG Mike View Post

      There is a gross misconception out there that only the biggest services are the ones worth posting anything to. Not true at all...

      Yes, you can often use the more popular services to get indexed quickly, but that by no means ensures you'll remain at a given rank for any length of time.

      You did well and I agree with Martin...if you've found a site to post to that works, keep it to yourself before it loses it's value.
      Hi Mike,

      I bought Article Bot yesterday - great tool!

      My secret is safe with me - for now!

      Karen

      (But then again - everything has a price...)
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  • Profile picture of the author ashishthakkar
    But, after submitting the very same articles (no changes to them) to another article directory that I came across by accident, three were on first page for a very competitive keyword
    Getting on first page for new article or site is no big deal.

    Staying there is


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  • Profile picture of the author Thinkfast
    Originally Posted by Dhrousha View Post

    Hi all,

    I thought the best results came from EZine. Or am I not 'getting it'?

    Karen
    Hi,

    I think ezinearticles take time in approval but after approval you can get more better response than other because you get more clicks due to your article at ezinearticles and also your article will distribute to many article directories without any submission. Yes, most of sites using articles of ezinearticles with author details.

    So, I think Ezine is better than other by all way.

    Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author JeffLam
    Karen,

    I'll buy now only if you have a 60-Day Money back guarantee Seal of Approval!

    Exrat,

    The thing is, how do you 'sweet talk' your way through while everyone and their brothers are shouting out loud? How do you get the G Robot to get to your site and let it rank high?

    Seriously, if ANYONE can solve the mystery of Google to the exact detail - that guy is the new richest person on this planet.
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  • Profile picture of the author davesh
    my site is yet to see the first page of google, Dhrousha would u mind parting with the directory name ?
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    • Profile picture of the author ExRat
      Hi Thinkfast,

      I think ezinearticles take time in approval but after approval you can get more better response than other because you get more clicks due to your article at ezinearticles and also your article will distribute to many article directories without any submission. Yes, most of sites using articles of ezinearticles with author details.

      So, I think Ezine is better than other by all way.
      I took it from the way that the OP is worded that the articles HAVE been published on EZA, but are NOT showing up in Google.

      Hi Jeff,

      The thing is, how do you 'sweet talk' your way through while everyone and their brothers are shouting out loud? How do you get the G Robot to get to your site and let it rank high?
      Two things -

      1) as I mentioned above -

      They are mainly listening out for other people who are talking positively about those new pages, rather than people 'talking', or shouting, about their own.
      In other words, of course it's possible to create backlinks and buzz yourself - but if you can get others to do these things for you, this is what Google are looking to discover, because they prefer to rank sites that are democratically 'elected' as the best by the majority 'vote', rather than ones that are the product of 'fixed-elections' where the 'candidate' votes for himself over and over.

      2) SEO is all speculation, especially when it's 3rd/4th/5th hand like it is here in the forum. That aside -

      I would rather gamble on the likelihood that search engine egineers are savvy, and that they realise that if someone appears to be over-pinging, mass bookmarking and any other over-the-top unnatural methods of desperately trying to 'force' a good ranking, then this should be a big red flag to the search engines that the person is probably trying so hard because their site is not that good, and due to all of this time spent promoting, they have less time devoted to making the site awesome.

      This is what I mean about 'shouting' and this philosophy means (sadly) that 99% of the advice given is counter-productive, and 99% of peoples' efforts damage their aims more than they help them.

      But it makes perfect sense to me to succeed by creating an environment of growth and promotion that appears natural, and beyond that, to spend time encouraging and creating natural growth from 3rd party responses and actions. Get others to do your promotion for you by giving them good reasons to - EG - honest renumeration (affiliates) or the 'wow' factor (fans).
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