Arrrr Mateys -- Pirate 2.0 penalty question

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We have a website that we believe was unfairly negatively impacted by Pirate 2.0. The webmaster claims the site has never had issues with DMCA Takedown notices or copyright claims, and when we search for the site on the Transparency Report tool from Google, we don't see any previous complains or filings. And yet our penalty checker tool says the site was hit "Extremely Negatively" with a probability rating of 100% by this update.

If a site is hit by an algo such as this, one cannot do a reconsideration request to my knowledge... So what can be done? Anything?
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  • Profile picture of the author cbpayne
    If you not have a history of a lot of DMCA's, then you were not affected by the Pirate algorithm.
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    • Profile picture of the author Str8poopin
      Originally Posted by cbpayne View Post

      If you not have a history of a lot of DMCA's, then you were not affected by the Pirate algorithm.
      I was goin' t' say I've never heard o' any confirmed cases o' sites gettin' hit by that without havin' DMCA complaints.

      I mean be thar some specific reason you believe t' site was hit by it?
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  • Profile picture of the author Tim3
    Originally Posted by SEOSuperHero View Post

    And yet our penalty checker tool says the site was hit "Extremely Negatively" with a probability rating of 100% by this update.
    Ahaaaaa Jim lad, avast behind, and shiver me yard arm.

    How do you know your tool is accurate?

    just curious,

    plus the the fact I have waited ages for an opportunity to say 'Avast behind'
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    • Profile picture of the author Str8poopin
      Originally Posted by Tim3 View Post

      Ahaaaaa Jim lad, avast behind, and shiver me yard arm.

      How do you know your tool is accurate?

      just curious,

      plus the the fact I have waited ages for an opportunity to say 'Avast behind'
      Yar, I have a domain with 500k links accordin' Moz.

      Ahrefs reports like 200. Tools be always accurate.
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  • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
    Originally Posted by SEOSuperHero View Post

    And yet our penalty checker tool says the site was hit "Extremely Negatively" with a probability rating of 100% by this update.
    I find this puzzling. This is a public forum where members probably use a handful of tools out of all the available ones. I'm pretty sure most forum dwellers have no idea what this means, what are the implications, how the tool came to this conclusion, or why you trust this tool.

    Originally Posted by SEOSuperHero View Post

    If a site is hit by an algo such as this, one cannot do a reconsideration request to my knowledge... So what can be done? Anything?
    I'm in the impression that Google requires DMCA-level documentation to accept a piracy complaint in the first place. This article says that you'd get a notice in Google Webmaster Tools, and you can file a counter notice or remove the content. Or, of course, just ignore the message.

    However, I think it's possible that Pirate algo does filtering that's not entirely based on DMCA requests.
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  • Profile picture of the author SEOSuperHero
    Hey guys, so I've uploaded the report from the tool. It's the Fruition penalty checker.

    Here it is!

    While it does show some possible negative impacts from Penguin and Panda as well, I don't know how much I believe that, since the site had almost no signs of link building when we started work on it, and the site really didn't have much in the way of thin content or duplicate content either. I would almost rather it be that Penguin and Panda are the culprits, because at least there's a chance for recovery when they finally refresh.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Funny, you're using a 3rd party tool to tell you If your site has a penalty.

    Excuse me while I go register hypochondriac-seo.org.
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