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ahrefs NEW Keywords Explorer - Just Released 4/26

by Murkr
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Ahrefs new keyword explorer looks promising. I was about to actually buy KeywordTool.io but after this new ahrefs release im contemplating not buying it.

Id like to hear some opinions on if this new ahrefs keyword explorer will be your new keyword planner, or will you stick to your other tools.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    It looks like another DIY metric like moz & DA or PA.

    The video wasn't very detailed on how they're looking at the competition backlinks.
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    • Profile picture of the author irawr
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      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      It looks like another DIY metric like moz & DA or PA.

      The video wasn't very detailed on how they're looking at the competition backlinks.

      Volume, like all the other tools do.

      I like the tool, I threw some of my target keywords in, sorted it by difficulty ascending, then used that data to update existing content. For example, I found a keyword with low search volume, like 100 a month, Googled it, I don't see the exact keyword on the page with control+F (first 100 results), so I edited an existing h2 tag on a relevant document.

      Not bad, I wouldn't pay for that feature exclusively, I use Ahrefs for lots of things.

      It's like a combination of the Scrapebox + G Planner Technique with some BS metrics mixed it.
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by irawr View Post

        Volume, like all the other tools do.

        I like the tool, I threw some of my target keywords in, sorted it by difficulty ascending, then used that data to update existing content. For example, I found a keyword with low search volume, like 100 a month, Googled it, I don't see the exact keyword on the page with control+F (first 100 results), so I edited an existing h2 tag on a relevant document.

        Not bad, I wouldn't pay for that feature exclusively, I use Ahrefs for lots of things.

        It's like a combination of the Scrapebox + G Planner Technique with some BS metrics mixed it.
        If that's the case (counting links) then it's useless. One good link can trump thousands of weak links.

        I don't have time to research this today but I might look at it more later.
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        • Profile picture of the author irawr
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          Originally Posted by yukon View Post

          If that's the case (counting links) then it's useless. One good link can trump thousands of weak links.

          I don't have time to research this today but I might look at it more later.
          Pm me a keyword I'll toss you a report.

          Again, the first thing I thought when I saw this was "sup longtails!"
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      • Profile picture of the author razorhound
        Originally Posted by irawr View Post

        Volume, like all the other tools do.

        I like the tool, I threw some of my target keywords in, sorted it by difficulty ascending, then used that data to update existing content. For example, I found a keyword with low search volume, like 100 a month, Googled it, I don't see the exact keyword on the page with control+F (first 100 results), so I edited an existing h2 tag on a relevant document.

        Not bad, I wouldn't pay for that feature exclusively, I use Ahrefs for lots of things.

        It's like a combination of the Scrapebox + G Planner Technique with some BS metrics mixed it.
        That sounds interesting! Do you find it accurate based on your experience?
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    • Profile picture of the author nettiapina
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      It looks like another DIY metric like moz & DA or PA.
      They already have their DIY metrics. Ahrefs just hasn't been marketing them on the same level as Moz which is why all the newbies aren't talking about their domain rank or whatever.
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      • Profile picture of the author irawr
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        Originally Posted by nettiapina View Post

        They already have their DIY metrics. Ahrefs just hasn't been marketing them on the same level as Moz which is why all the newbies aren't talking about their domain rank or whatever.
        If you look at Ahrefs difficulty metric, then compare to say moz metrics, the ahrefs metric seems to be heavily related to page authority/links to the page.

        I took a keyword that Ahrefs says is a 9, threw it into Google, checked with mozbar, none of the pages in the top 10 have a high page authority and there is very few links to the actual page, but the domain authorities are very high. I'm almost not really seeing the keyword showing up much as an exact match in the top 100 results.

        SEMRush puts the keyword at about an 86.

        So, would I bet money on the Ahrefs keyword difficulty, uhm no way. I wouldn't do that with any keyword difficulty tool though. You really do need to look at the SERP and see what's going on before making decisions to invest time/money into that keyword.

        Topically speaking and looking at the competing sites in the top 10, I'd personally avoid this keyword. It looks pretty tough. Lowest DA is a 50 and the other 9 results are 80-90 and are targeting the keyword topically.

        I do think the new tool is amazing for blowing up content.

        To create pillars I used to do tons of KW research, I'd find like 20+ ultra low comp long tails that are related to the main topic. I would screw around with Keyword Shitter, Scrapebox, GKWP, question and answer sites, or whatever else I felt like (not to mention all the KWs I thought up myself.) Then write/source an appropriate amount for each keyword, then turn this into a giant 2k+ word pillar. Which is obviously really effective.

        Yesterday I think I added 4-5k words to existing pages by just tossing the main KW into Ahrefs, looking at the junk longtails and asking myself "if Keyword is a question, can I answer it in my page?" and if so I included it into a heading and wrote like 100-200 words about it.

        Even if the data isn't the most accurate, I have a definite sense that it's highly effective because it's just so fast. Boom, there's data. Instead of 30 minutes of screwing around with tools.

        sidenote: I'm like 50% asleep still.
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  • Profile picture of the author RS3RS
    I would love to see a tool that uses ranking difficulty data as strong as the Moz tool.

    THAT would be a real winner.
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  • Profile picture of the author st0nec0ld
    Looks like the old google keyword tool..
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  • Profile picture of the author Murkr
    When you guys do your keyword research do you use many tools? if so, what are your favorites?

    I was hoping ahrefs would of hit a home run with this because i currently have an account with them lol, it would have saved me money not buying another service.
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    • Profile picture of the author irawr
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      Originally Posted by Murkr View Post

      When you guys do your keyword research do you use many tools? if so, what are your favorites?

      I was hoping ahrefs would of hit a home run with this because i currently have an account with them lol, it would have saved me money not buying another service.
      The technique I use for picking main target keywords is moz bar in a browswer window and Ahrefs.

      So I'm going to write a 2000 word pillar about "buying blue widgets." To determine if this is a good idea, I'll Google buying blue widgets. I'll consider the following:

      #1 are the sites in the top 10 specifically targeting this keyword topically.
      #2 if so are they all targeting it exactly.
      #3 Are the sites in the top specifically about this topic or is it a general site that happens to mention it?
      #3 What does the backlink profile of the top site look like. (Ahrefs backlink report.)
      #4 What about that specific page? (Ahrefs backlink report.)

      If I really want to dig deep into this, I've created some tools that do a statistical analysis, but this is very involved. These tools will scrape lots of data from the SEO tools, then poop out reports, which allows me to estimate the difficulty of a niche and how much it will cost to compete in that niche, in regards to links. I don't ever use these tools for a keyword I'm targeting on a page level.
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  • Profile picture of the author Murkr
    thanks for the info. i currently just use google keyword planner and the google suggest at the bottom of the page. i feel like im missing out. i was thinking about buying LTP because i heard a lot of people use that. any other suggestions for my keyword research?
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