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Yes the point of this post is to get people out of "fear mode"
and taking action.

I know of one individual who contacted me last year, over 12
months ago in fact, and he did not want to take the risk of
working hard on sites and possibly losing his Adsense account.

I just talked with him last week, he still has not made a move
and has spent several hundred dollars in e-books and courses.

Don't be that guy...

- John

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LIndaB 15 years ago

John, I think you make a very good point. One of the things I like about your method is that you base your sites around physical products. It would be pretty easy to find affiliate programs for most products like these at Amazon, Commission Junction, Share a Sale, etc. to take up the slack with an Adsense ban. Yahoo also has a contextual ad program. Getting traffic is really the hardest and most time-consuming part of the equation, not figuring out how to monetize a site (unless you are building sites around really esoteric subjects and not actual products).
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TristanPerry

15 years ago

Originally Posted by XFactor

Yes the point of this post is to get people out of "fear mode"
and taking action.

I know of one individual who contacted me last year, over 12
months ago in fact, and he did not want to take the risk of
working hard on sites and possibly losing his Adsense account.

I just talked with him last week, he still has not made a move
and has spent several hundred dollars in e-books and courses.

Don't be that guy...

- John

Ouch! I quite agree - it's never a good idea to never take action like that.

I've been into various money making activities (web development and domaining mainly) for a while before I joined here, but when I came here I was blown away by the level of free info here. And within 2/3 days of coming here I couldn't wait to get out there and implement some of the ideas out there (mainly from your amazing $300/day thread John)

I've now got 3 micro niche sites - two on the first page so far - (since I only recently started

More to come of course) and am very motivated to continue.

I can't see how someone can just read, read, read for a year (heck, even for a month or two) and not take action. I don't know about other people, but I was too excited/motivated to simply sit around and keep reading.

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JMartin

15 years ago

Originally Posted by XFactor

I know of one individual who contacted me last year, over 12
months ago in fact, and he did not want to take the risk of
working hard on sites and possibly losing his Adsense account.

I just talked with him last week, he still has not made a move
and has spent several hundred dollars in e-books and courses.

Don't be that guy...

- John

WOW!

Don't be that guy for sure. That's just crazy.

When I started in direct mail many moons ago I used the only few bucks I had. Didn't know if it would work, if I'd be able to cash the checks due to bank issues or what.

The way I looked at it was:

A. I have nothing right now, so if what I do fails, there's no real status change.

B. I'll make more money in life. Worst case scenario, I blow some money today and wait a bit to try again.

C. Progress always involves risk. There's a word for people who always want a guarantee: employees (and even that's not guaranteed).

D. If I can't take a chance and get something done then being an entrepreneur isn't for me.

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kumkum

15 years ago

thanks..

I am used to be Fear with Adsense banned
But now
Let it flow...
There's still lot "other" way beside those one..

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AllThingsArePossible 15 years ago

another killer post.! I bought your course John and been taking action. I'm learning to do the better in copywriting because it's my weakness.

What's your take in Yahoo publishing? Have you heard any good news from the #2 search engine on YPN?
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- Kay King 15 years ago
  
  John - I'm not sure how much is "fear mode" and how much is "excuse mode".
  
  I could do all that work and lose my adsense account
  I could build all those sites and not make an affiliate sales
  I could write that ebook and can be sure anyone would buy it
  
  If you are in can't mode, you won't do anything except find new reasons to do nothing.
  
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ajparker

15 years ago

Very good thread - I remember a gardening show once where the host would say that if you haven't had your garden frosted off you just AREN'T trying!

Not to advocate pushing it to the limit and working against the TOS for adsense - but failure to act guarantees.... FAILURE.

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Sowemimo Oladele

15 years ago

Hello John,

Good to see you giving a valuable info again....

Thanks, just came @ the right time for me

Cheers!!!

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internetmarketer99

15 years ago

Originally Posted by XFactor

...

Yes... this is true. You CAN lose your account.

All it takes is one person to click-bomb your sites and Google will
then send you that dreaded email.

But Really, Who Cares?

...

What I mean is that if you work your tail off and create 50 high quality
niche sites, based around niches that are getting targeted traffic on
a daily basis (my preference are product-based niches), then you are
creating assets.

These assets can be monetized on so many ways should your Adsense
account be terminated.

- John

I'm with John.

If you've been smart about choosing your niches, keywords, etc., then you have websites that are getting targeted traffic. You can monetize these in numerous ways.

Perhaps even more importantly, you now know how to research, create sites, get them ranked, and receiving targeted traffic.

That's the "keys to the castle" for Internet marketing. You now have everything needed to be as successful as you want.

Mark

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playmaker

15 years ago

John,

When you register your domains do you use privacy on them or do you leave them public? If you leave them public do you use the same registry info on all of them?

thanks,
Larry

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DavidO 15 years ago

You've made a good point. Getting banned is not the end of the world. A few years ago I was banned by Adwords. The reasons aren't important here.

I was still starting out, had low traffic, and I thought getting banned was the end of the world. But in retrospect I can almost thank them for it. It forced me to focus on natural traffic generation and within a short time I was making even more sales and not paying a penny for advertising!

I now use only organic search traffic and nobody can take that away from me.
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Gee S

15 years ago

I'll be honest, until recently I had this fear. I didnt want to put all this time and effort into a project that would just get me banned.

But then I thought about it and realised if I built valuable web real estate, I could do a number of things with it. I could flip the website, or I could monetize it another way. With Bing gaining popularity it wouldnt be too long where advertisers would go flocking to them (hopefully). You've also got CPA which can monetize these websites.

But if all else fails and you cant monetize in any other way then as mentioned you could flip the websites. Imagine you have 30 websites that are doing pretty well. If you sell each website on average for $1000 which is realistic depending on how valuable the website is then you could potentially earn $30,000. Yep it sounds unrealistic, but this is only an example. You could then re-invest that money into creating websites which focus on CPA offers, or amazon products and start the whole process again.

You could even re-invest the money into other areas of IM. Maybe product creation? List building? Domain flipping?

Just think of it as a business, hopefully you will profit from it, and if you do ever get banned the IM world is huge and you can move on to another area. I've just come to realise that Adsense is not the be all and end all.

Gurpreet

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mrizos

15 years ago

Well said John. If your sites revolve around products then the opportunity to monetize these site are limitless. Forget "the program" and think about "the content".

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mejohn

14 years ago

I always love your insight John. I'm up to over $200 per month now with very little effort.

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4morereferrals 14 years ago

Originally Posted by mejohn

I always love your insight John. I'm up to over $200 per month now with very little effort.

How many sites?
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- Thunder059 14 years ago
  
  thanks sir.yeah this should be our ultimate task.since if we are keep waiting for the Adsence check ONLY, it may not work.we have to have other alternatives too.And that path would generate more $$$ than the Adsence account.
  
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tijay

14 years ago

Originally Posted by XFactor

One of biggest fears that keeps most people from taking full
advantage of the Adsense program is getting banned and losing
their account.

I've gotten emails from people that declare that Adsense is too
risky and that they refuse to work hard with a program that could
delete them in a heartbeat.

Yes... this is true. You CAN lose your account.

All it takes is one person to click-bomb your sites and Google will
then send you that dreaded email.

But Really, Who Cares?

You have to understand that regardless if you lose your account
or not, this game is not about Adsense - it's about building a portfolio
of virtual real estate.

What I mean is that if you work your tail off and create 50 high quality
niche sites, based around niches that are getting targeted traffic on
a daily basis (my preference are product-based niches), then you are
creating assets.

These assets can be monetized on so many ways should your Adsense
account be terminated.

From other click-based programs to affiliate sales to selling advertising,
these sites can produce incoming for the long-term without Adsense.

So here is my advice to take if the fear of losing your Adsense account
is stopping you from taking action.

1) Always create sites that are based around stuff people are buying.

2) Always create informative content that not only educates the reader
on the specific niche/product that your site is about, but is also unique.

3) Get those rankings up! There are many small ma-&-pa shops that
would love to get some traffic directed from your site (selling monthly
advertising banners or text).

4) Get your mind wrapped around the idea that the sites themselves
are what's valuable, not the Adsense code.

- John

XFactor, I understand your points and they are valid. However, do you still keep your rankings once your account gets banned for whatever reason they so choose that day? I was always under the assumption that once your sites are banned the subsequently will lose their SERPS positions.

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eduprograms

14 years ago

I don't have any ad sense account yet, But one thing makes me surprise that if some one who want that your should be banned from the adsense account and starts breaking the rules. What would be happened then?

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CrispyDuck

14 years ago

Yeah I got my Adsense account banned because some nut went click crazy on them...

Good advice John!

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Conrad Stuart 14 years ago

I definitely agree that it is not all about Adsense and that there are still other monetization methods, but Adsense is by far the easiest. Case in point:

I have a micro niche site that I started off using an aff program to monetize. I got a number one spot and the site generated hundreds of clickthroughs to the offer daily. NOT ONE SALE with thousands of clicks.

I got smart, switched to Adsense: $200/month

You can still monetize with other programs but Adsense is the s**t
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Clyde

14 years ago

You guys need to understand, besides making a lot of money, where's the fun in it if there was no risk? :p

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Zeus66

14 years ago

I've had the same Adsense account since the day they launched it in 2003. In that time I've had hundreds of sites with Adsense on the pages. If you don't do anything wrong yourself, click attacks aren't likely to take you down. Google is pretty good now at discerning between third party attacks designed to take out competition or for pure maliciousness vs. genuine click fraud.

John

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Clyde

14 years ago

John,

besides, who would write 30+ pages of content about "blue green drill bits" anyway?

MFA are totally fine. Just don't be stupid. :p

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Lee MacRae 14 years ago

If they are afraid of losing their Adsense account then they had better stay away from affiliate sales as well...

I just had two lucrative sites see the affiliate commissions cut in half! That's right...the commission percentage was cut in half so my income on those sites dropped in half...oh and another 2 affiliate programs where I was making some nice money decided to terminate!

You can make a lot of money in IM if you have the guts to try...and the willingness to fail and also have the rug pulled out from under you from time to time.

If you are afraid to lose your account or your commission or whatever and you need to make some money then go to WalMart...oh wait there is a recession and people aren't spending money so don't go...you could lose that job!
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- Free Business Training 14 years ago
  
  I think we have probably all heard; "don't put all your eggs in one basket."
  
  That is especially true in IM.
  
  I have never worried about my Adsense account, but have begun moving away from Adsense altogether because in my tests it is the least profitable monitization method. ClickBank products are still #1 and test are showing that CPA, and virtual services are also looking good.
  
  I always try to look ahead to potential problems and have a back up monitization method ready for quick implementation, or use several methods on the same site. The sudden loss of one wouldn't have much affect.
  
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