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Getting Google to index your profile URLs?

by FlashDriveDT
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Since pinging services like ping-o-matic are intended for blogs and websites I was wondering how to get Google to index my social profile URLs. The reason why this is important is that many of my profiles spreadout over the net have dofollow backlinks to my site and obviously I want them to be counted. Some of these profiles get picked up by google pretty quickly but some are so "hidden" inside a website that google doesn't index them. (I checked by doing site searches --> site: profile-URL)

So how to notify google? In another thread somebody mentioned social bookmarking but obviously, digg, reddit and the like are for submitting articles, news stories and so on, not for publishing profile URLs. It's very likely to get reported for shameless self-promotion (=spam) and you may end up shooting yourself in the foot.

We're talking lots of profiles here as this is my main way of generating backlinks. Jumptags seemed like a good option as you can publish your own bookmarks there, even bookmark collections, but unfortunately I just found out that it's nofollow. Does anyone know of a bookmark publishing site that is dofollow?

I'd welcome alternative ideas too. Thanks!
#google #index #profile #urls
  • Profile picture of the author GuerrillaIM
    You can ping any page you like. SENuke has inbuilt pinger.
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    • Profile picture of the author FlashDriveDT
      Originally Posted by GuerrillaIM View Post

      You can ping any page you like. SENuke has inbuilt pinger.
      Of course you can ping any page you like but it's abuse IMO. Besides, I tried ping-o-matic for a profile URL once and google still hadnt't picked up on it after several weeks.

      Originally Posted by Paul Hancox View Post

      Don't forget, Google will only show up a small sample of backlinks using the site: tool.
      You need to use Google's Webmaster Tools to more accurately show you whether they've indexed those backlinks.
      That's not the issue. The issue is whether the actual profile URL is indexed, e.g. that "site:xxx.communityxy.com/myprofile" brings up a positive result in google. If it does I can know for sure the backlinks of that profile have been counted by google. I found a lot of my profile URLs not coming up in google. And that although I engaged in some of the sites.

      Originally Posted by The Expert View Post

      Sites I'm talking about are like Delicious. Bookmarking Demon has about 70 or so of these style sites loaded up by default. You can then go out and find thousands of Scuttle, Scuttle Plus, and Pligg sites to add to the mix.
      Delicious is nofollow. Bookmarking demon isn't free. I think I found a good list today, after extensive research, that shows pleny of social bookmarking sites and most importantly, if they do- or nofollow.

      Check it out:
      Social Bookmarking List

      I've picked out folkd out of this list as it seems similar to jumptags, though they don't offer the collection feature (yet you can submit as many bookmarks/links as you like). I just submitted a few of my profile URLs there plus some useful sites. Let's hope for the best!

      Originally Posted by Thomas W View Post

      Have you tried to Social Bookmark your profiles.
      That's exactly what this post is about, Thomas. Question is which site (see list above) and if it could cause any backlash....?
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      • Profile picture of the author Paul Hancox
        Originally Posted by FlashDriveDT View Post

        That's not the issue. The issue is whether the actual profile URL is indexed, e.g. that "site:xxx.communityxy.com/myprofile" brings up a positive result in google. If it does I can know for sure the backlinks of that profile have been counted by google. I found a lot of my profile URLs not coming up in google. And that although I engaged in some of the sites.
        But if xxx.communityxy.com/myprofile links back to YOUR SITE, and it is indexed in Google, then it should show up as a backlink in Google Webmaster Tools.

        That's how you know whether it's been indexed or not. Google claims that it's Webmaster Tools will show you the vast majority of pages linking back to your site.

        So if xxx.communityxy.com/myprofile isn't listed in Webmaster Tools, then chances are it's not been indexed by Google (assuming you have a backlink on that page). But you'll only know by using that tool.
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        • Profile picture of the author FlashDriveDT
          Originally Posted by Paul Hancox View Post

          But if xxx.communityxy.com/myprofile links back to YOUR SITE, and it is indexed in Google, then it should show up as a backlink in Google Webmaster Tools.

          That's how you know whether it's been indexed or not. Google claims that it's Webmaster Tools will show you the vast majority of pages linking back to your site.

          So if xxx.communityxy.com/myprofile isn't listed in Webmaster Tools, then chances are it's not been indexed by Google (assuming you have a backlink on that page). But you'll only know by using that tool.
          Well, I just checked and it's not listed. As a matter of fact, webmaster tools is grossly understating my number of backlinks. I fail to see the reliability of this tool. And are you telling me that webmaster tools will be able to count/display backlinks from a profile URL that is not indexed in google? How should that be possible?

          Anyway, to my dismay I just found out that folkd is using only php redirect links, albeit dofollow. This is useless for google indexing! ARGH, no wonder the urls I posted there are not showing up in google though my folkd profile page does. I'm now using spurl and from what I can tell these links are not redirects? :confused: I will make this work!
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          • Profile picture of the author internetmarketer99
            Originally Posted by FlashDriveDT View Post

            Well, I just checked and it's not listed. As a matter of fact, webmaster tools is grossly understating my number of backlinks. I fail to see the reliability of this tool. And are you telling me that webmaster tools will be able to count/display backlinks from a profile URL that is not indexed in google? How should that be possible?

            Anyway, to my dismay I just found out that folkd is using only php redirect links, albeit dofollow. This is useless for google indexing! ARGH, no wonder the urls I posted there are not showing up in google though my folkd profile page does. I'm now using spurl and from what I can tell these links are not redirects? :confused: I will make this work!
            If your point in all this is ranking in Google's SERPS, then Webmaster Tools is NOT "grossly understating" your links. In fact, it's showing you precisely WHICH links are counting towards your ranking in Google.

            Links that don't show up in Webmaster Tools for the most part do not contribute to your 'total backlinking value' for Google.

            Also, NoFollow links are picked up by Google, and they *do* count. They may not count as much as a high-PR 'Follow' link, but they most definitely do count.

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            • Profile picture of the author FlashDriveDT
              Originally Posted by internetmarketer99 View Post

              If your point in all this is ranking in Google's SERPS, then Webmaster Tools is NOT "grossly understating" your links. In fact, it's showing you precisely WHICH links are counting towards your ranking in Google.

              Links that don't show up in Webmaster Tools for the most part do not contribute to your 'total backlinking value' for Google.
              Well, I'm glad you know precisely what my webmaster tools account is showing me and what it means. Oddly enough, a lot of the anchor text backlinks that catapulted my keywords to high google ranking are not showing up at all in my Tools account...nada, zilch. But I'm sure you have a perfect and precise explanation for that too, huh?


              Also, NoFollow links are picked up by Google, and they *do* count. They may not count as much as a high-PR 'Follow' link, but they most definitely do count.
              No offense, but that sounds like hogwash. Do you have proof for this? I suppose these show up in the Webmaster Tools too? :rolleyes: Anyway, even if nofollow links counted it still doesn't do me any good seeing that the profile URLs don't come in the google SERPs, regardless.
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              • Profile picture of the author internetmarketer99
                Originally Posted by FlashDriveDT View Post

                Well, I'm glad you know precisely what my webmaster tools account is showing me and what it means. Oddly enough, a lot of the anchor text backlinks that catapulted my keywords to high google ranking are not showing up at all in my Tools account...nada, zilch. But I'm sure you have a perfect and precise explanation for that too, huh?


                No offense, but that sounds like hogwash. Do you have proof for this? I suppose these show up in the Webmaster Tools too? :rolleyes: Anyway, even if nofollow links counted it still doesn't do me any good seeing that the profile URLs don't come in the google SERPs, regardless.
                First of all, the obnoxious replies are not necessary, you just come off as immature and unprofessional.

                Secondly, what I wrote is generally-accepted common knowledge within the SEO community.

                I don't have the time - and certainly not the inclination now or the need to 'prove' anything to you - but if you bother to do just a little research at the source, or on nearly any SEO forum, you'll find that a) Webmaster Tools shows nearly all of the backlinklinks that Google discovers to the webmaster and that is part of it's purpose, and b) Google counts backlinks that are "NoFollow".

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                • Profile picture of the author FlashDriveDT
                  Originally Posted by internetmarketer99 View Post

                  First of all, the obnoxious replies are not necessary, you just come off as immature and unprofessional.

                  Secondly, what I wrote is generally-accepted common knowledge within the SEO community.

                  I don't have the time - and certainly not the inclination now or the need to 'prove' anything to you - but if you bother to do just a little research at the source, or on nearly any SEO forum, you'll find that a) Webmaster Tools shows nearly all of the backlinklinks that Google discovers to the webmaster and that is part of it's purpose, and b) Google counts backlinks that are "NoFollow".

                  Mark
                  Sorry but I find it rather immature when someone uses CAPS in his response and states things as just general facts, with no room for exception cases. Because I tell you again that some of my profile URLs that are indexed in google are not showing up as backlinks in my webmaster tools account. Yet it's clear that the backlinks have been noted and counted, otherwise I wouldn't be ranking for the keywords in google (I started ranking after my profile campaigns). Maybe it's just that backlinks from profile URLs don't show up in webmaster tools in general. Because I can't find none in my account.

                  Anyway, I'm discussing this problem in another forum and someone there raised an interesting point:

                  Also another couple of observations:

                  1. Pinging profiles pages (ping-o-matic, pingoat, ping.in, etc.) don't really work. Google is just not interested in responding to pings unless it's a blog or forum of some kind. I don't really understand the logic involved. (i.e. it's over my head ;-)

                  2. Certain sites block Google and/or other SEs from crawling the profile pages using robots.txt. E.g., take a look at:

                  http://aftered.tv/robots.txt

                  It seems they don't want to waste bandwidth, or maybe some other reason, but I think it's pretty guaranteed that profile pages on that site will never get crawled or indexed.

                  And of course, it they really want to be sneaky, it's easily possible for the webmaster to do some funky .htaccess URL rewrite or redirect (based on either the requester's IP or the crawler's ID) which would make your profile page seem perfectly fine when you load it from a browser, but when Google requests it, it either comes up as a 404 or it gets something completely different, and in those cases you'll never be able to tell that there is such a redirect or rewrite rule behind the scenes.

                  Again sorry for not being helpful. I'm working on a variation of the technique described earlier. Hopefully if that works, I'll share the details here.
                  My reply:

                  I was suspecting that some robots.txts do that. However, with a few particular sites I was testing I did find plenty of profile URLs indexed in google, but mine wasn't among it. So the only other explanation I have is that maybe google doesn't like some of my profiles and refuses to index them (or maybe quickly de-indexes them?). Why that would be is beyond me seeing that plenty of my profile URLs are online. I also found out that some sites use alternative URLs for profiles that then get indexed in google opposed to the profile URLs I had saved. So a better search for index checking is not the "site:" parameter but a "xzy.site.com + profile name" command.

                  Well, a whole day has passed now since I submitted a few profile URLs to spurl but they're not showing up in google yet. Clearly, google shouldn't take longer than a day to index a social bookmarking site? Argh, patience is a virtue, huh...
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Hancox
    Don't forget, Google will only show up a small sample of backlinks using the site: tool.
    You need to use Google's Webmaster Tools to more accurately show you whether they've indexed those backlinks.
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    • Profile picture of the author The Expert
      When I talk about bookmarking your profile pages to get them indexed, I'm not talking about Sites like Digg or Stumbleupon. Those are a subset of social sites that should more accurately be bundled as "voting" sites.

      Sites I'm talking about are like Delicious. Bookmarking Demon has about 70 or so of these style sites loaded up by default. You can then go out and find thousands of Scuttle, Scuttle Plus, and Pligg sites to add to the mix.

      My average bookmarking run includes about 110 sites.

      As to pinging....like someone else said, you can ping anything. I use Pingler.

      You can even Ping your Bookmarking Site Profiles in order to have your bookmarks found quickly...which will in turn have your profile links that you bookmarked found more quickly.
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  • Profile picture of the author Thomas W
    Have you tried to Social Bookmark your profiles.
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