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Hello World. Two days ago I was patient enough to read through all thirty two pages of that closed thread and did a whole lot of studying. ATM I don't have the actual membership but the thread opened up my eyes on how to go about doing it. But here is one thing: What is a recommended theme to make it work with Wordpress? I can't build a template in XSitePro for the life of me nor do I have the cash to outsource it ATM.

Any and all help would be appreciated.
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"Patient" hardly seems the right word for reading through pages of such excellent content ;-)

If you buy the ebook, you will see how to lay out your pages. There is also an upgrade offer to buy a Wordpress theme.

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Thanks for your answer man. Thing is, the thread already opened up my eyes as to how to lay it all out and everything, and right now I can't invest in the course. Ideas were flowing and I took a crap load of notes. But what I was asking is are there any recommended themes with Wordpress that I can use it for (the freely available ones)?
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Well, I went ahead and chose a Wordpress theme that I think will bring me high conversions. But after studying that closed thread some more I have just one more beef: Page Rank.

When looking at the PR on the competing sites on the first page, what's the maximum PR I should even deal with before attempting to rank my site? I've seen as high as PR4 with one or two or three sites with some of my great KWs. Should backlinking help me beat those PR4 sites?
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I thought I was the only one that read through that thread.

Been doing AdSense for a long time, but I got some ideas from it. A worthwhile read for sure.

Anyway, here's a thread that started yesterday about looking at competition. Maybe it will help get you on the right track.

http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...important.html

As far as CTR goes, this is one of those things where you just need to get action coming to a page and look at your stats. A WP theme is easy to swap out, so don't worry too much there. Focus on getting the site going and growing.

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I'd personally just look around for any sort of "AdSense optimized" theme.

The ideas laid out in the thread are very good ones, but are just suggestions and ideas. In xFactor's very good book he does mention that you can/should have your own spin on his ideas if necessary.

The basic idea is to find a low competition keyword, built a site around it, and backlink it to the top. And then get in money.

Once you are confident on those matters, and have a fairly good theme, you should be able to make a good amount of money from the idea. (Even if it does take you a few or more websites before you truly have a good idea of which keywords to target, etc)

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Well, I went ahead and chose a Wordpress theme that I think will bring me high conversions. But after studying that closed thread some more I have just one more beef: Page Rank.

When looking at the PR on the competing sites on the first page, what's the maximum PR I should even deal with before attempting to rank my site? I've seen as high as PR4 with one or two or three sites with some of my great KWs. Should backlinking help me beat those PR4 sites?
It'd need more backlinking than usual, but anything is beatable.

A PR4 page is possible to beat, yes. Or you could simply aim for the 2nd or 3rd slot - you'll still get quite a lot of the click-throughs from any searches (especially if the searcher is quite good wise and can tell that the website ranked first may not be as good as yours, which is dedicated to that particular niche)

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I've used the Super Adsense themes very successfully for almost all of my Adsense sites I've ever done. I think they are easy to use and you can make a nice header for it if you want to.
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Just a note for some folks regarding the wordpress theme, my version 2 (the offered one from John's course) is coming out either late today or tomorrow morning that includes the config page and in regards to the PR issue with new sites, don't worry about it.

I'll give you an example. John posted up the topic of bbq grills in his first thread. Bucking the trend, i decided to see if there were any tasty keyword domains available, and if there were- could i compete due to the other sites centered around that keyword.

One month later, after building out that site, i was already making money. That one site made $9.15 in 30 days. Not bad
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I know the content is great and he does a wonderful job of laying it all out, has anyone been able to pull in the incredible CTR that he has (IE: 50% +)?

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I've done some split testing (2 days on, 2 days off) and have seen anywhere from 15-35% INCREASE in my tests. That's from my own experience, so you're mileage may vary.

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One month later, after building out that site, i was already making money. That one site made $9.15 in 30 days. Not bad
Not at all.

If there aren't 4,500 new BBQ sites that were made after that thread came out, I'd be surprised.

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Sounds great, guys. I will go with my gut and say PR4 or less. BTW, I do have MNF to help me out on the SOC, and it is a HUGE help. You could spend all day finding niches to exploit haha.
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But see, that's the beauty of it. Doesn't have to be just bbq lol. Right now my wife is pregnant so guess what MY site building inspiration is all about lol

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Not at all.

If there aren't 4,500 new BBQ sites that were made after that thread came out, I'd be surprised.
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But see, that's the beauty of it. Doesn't have to be just bbq lol. Right now my wife is pregnant so guess what MY site building inspiration is all about lol

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Congrats!

It's funny how so many people get stuck for an idea when they are everywhere.

I think the main issue with most is they are scared that what they pick won't be " the right one."

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Originally Posted by Biggy Fat View Post

Well, I went ahead and chose a Wordpress theme that I think will bring me high conversions. But after studying that closed thread some more I have just one more beef: Page Rank.

When looking at the PR on the competing sites on the first page, what's the maximum PR I should even deal with before attempting to rank my site? I've seen as high as PR4 with one or two or three sites with some of my great KWs. Should backlinking help me beat those PR4 sites?
if you can't scrape together a lousy$100 for the course and to buy some domains and hosting then you really don't want an online business.

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I know the content is great and he does a wonderful job of laying it all out, has anyone been able to pull in the incredible CTR that he has (IE: 50% +)?

Getting such a high CTR not only depends on your site layout, but
also the keywords used, the type of traffic coming in, and more
importantly, how targeted that traffic is.

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if you can't scrape together a lousy$100 for the course and to buy some domains and hosting then you really don't want an online business.

My uncle just got a loan from the bank for $200,000 to start an
offline business. He has also hired expert financial advisors and
business planners to help forecast profit and loss.

He is starting one of those $5 dollar clothing stores (they are big
down here in Southern California).

He expects to break even in 18 months, then start turning a profit.

I do not understand the mentally in the online business, however. It
is quite the opposite.

But then again I do not think most people realize what a business is,
or how much work it takes.

They treat it like a hobby and expect to make it big without investing
anything or really trying hard morning, night and day.

That is what I did, and still do.

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Originally Posted by Biggy Fat View Post

Hello World. Two days ago I was patient enough to read through all thirty two pages of that closed thread and did a whole lot of studying. ATM I don't have the actual membership but the thread opened up my eyes on how to go about doing it. But here is one thing: What is a recommended theme to make it work with Wordpress? I can't build a template in XSitePro for the life of me nor do I have the cash to outsource it ATM.

Any and all help would be appreciated.
Read through my 30-page thread again, it explains how simple my
layout is.

In case you did not pay attention, here ya go:

1) Header with main keyword in it.
2) Navigation in header and in right panel.
3) Large Adsense block (336 x 280) below the title and intro paragraph.
4) Content underneath.

Now get to work picking your niches, writing content and getting traffic.

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My uncle just got a loan from the bank for $200,000 to start an
offline business. He has also hired expert financial advisors and
business planners to help forecast profit and loss.

He is starting one of those $5 dollar clothing stores (they are big
down here in Southern California).

He expects to break even in 18 months, then start turning a profit.

I do not understand the mentally in the online business, however. It
is quite the opposite.

But then again I do not think most people realize what a business is,
or how much work it takes.

They treat it like a hobby and expect to make it big without investing
anything or really trying hard morning, night and day.

That is what I did, and still do.

- John
I hear that! I haven't hung out in forums for years and this is the reason why. I've almost had enough of this one but every once in a while you get some gold nuggets mixed in with the non producers. Some of the questions here are from people who just don't want to take the time it WILL take to learn this stuff. You said you got to 300 a day in 6 months but I don't think they read the part about the years of trial and error prior to that. I guess I should be happy and in a way I am. Mostly because I've already paid my dues.

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I hear that! I haven't hung out in forums for years and this is the reason why. I've almost had enough of this one but every once in a while you get some gold nuggets mixed in with the non producers. Some of the questions here are from people who just don't want to take the time it WILL take to learn this stuff. You said you got to 300 a day in 6 months but I don't think they read the part about the years of trial and error prior to that. I guess I should be happy and in a way I am. Mostly because I've already paid my dues.
4+ years online to be exact, with another 6 previous years failing at many
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10 years total.

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I love to read xfactor's thread. I think to successful in internet, we should working hard and never give up with any conditions.

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if you can't scrape together a lousy$100 for the course and to buy some domains and hosting then you really don't want an online business.
Of course I can invest that, just not ATM. I don't have it because I still have other online/offline expenses to pay and I blew around $400 on a failed project. When I recover then it will be on. I just have to go by the thread for now.
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4+ years online to be exact, with another 6 previous years failing at many
business ideas.

10 years total.

And I'm grateful for every minute of it.

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As John points out being successful requires effort and persistance with some failure as a natural part of the process. That's exactly how business was for me also, it can be a bumpy road but very rewarding in the end.

Making internet $$$ is not that hard if your keen to learn, whether it's adsense, affiliate marketing or selling your own product. And it doesn't get much easier than John's approach. But you have to be a "doer" and "do it" ... as I said John method is quite easy but the work load required is the hard part and unfortunately this is not what most people want, 95% want easy money with little input and even if they start they soon give up.

Lets say you would like $1000.00 a week (very achievable) ... $4000.00 a month, and your adsense sites are averageing $30.00 a month (very achievable over time) ... you would need around 133 sites. Building and promoting 133 sites is probably as hard, maybe harder for some than most 9-5 jobs.

And this is exactly why 95% of those looking for the online $$$ will never find them because they believe the hype and think it's easy money. Internet money is viewed by most in the same light as Amway was, it's their new Amway, because they don't need much money to get started and they have heard all the stories, they think it's their path to a fortune (rarely true). Think about it, although there were vast numbers worldwide involved with Amway, most people have never met anyone that made any decent money from it.

The Internet does offer a real opportunity for the small percentage of "doers" that will put in a consistant work effort, but if your looking for easy money, IMO you will not find it on the internet, not in the first 12 months anyway. Once your sites are established and you are happy with your income level, then maintaining the traffic will require an ongoing effort. It requires the same effort as running any business, if you can't see yourself doing and enjoying that role on a daily basis then maybe the internet as an income is not for you.

For those that are not put of by some serious work, John's method is a good place to start and get the money flowing, it will also set you up for affiliate opportunities down the track if that part of the internet appeals to you.
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As John points out being successful requires effort and persistance with some failure as a natural part of the process. That's exactly how business was for me also, it can be a bumpy road but very rewarding in the end.

Making internet $$$ is not that hard if your keen to learn, whether it's adsense, affiliate marketing or selling your own product. And it doesn't get much easier than John's approach. But you have to be a "doer" and "do it" ... as I said John method is quite easy but the work load required is the hard part and unfortunately this is not what most people want, 95% want easy money with little input and even if they start they soon give up.

Lets say you would like $1000.00 a week (very achievable) ... $4000.00 a month, and your adsense sites are averageing $30.00 a month (very achievable over time) ... you would need around 133 sites. Building and promoting 133 sites is probably as hard, maybe harder for some than most 9-5 jobs.

And this is exactly why 95% of those looking for the online $$$ will never find them because they believe the hype and think it's easy money. Internet money is viewed by most in the same light as Amway was, it's their new Amway, because they don't need much money to get started and they have heard all the stories, they think it's their path to a fortune (rarely true). Think about it, although there were vast numbers worldwide involved with Amway, most people have never met anyone that made any decent money from it.

The Internet does offer a real opportunity for the small percentage of "doers" that will put in a consistant work effort, but if your looking for easy money, IMO you will not find it on the internet, not in the first 12 months anyway. Once your sites are established and you are happy with your income level, then maintaining the traffic will require an ongoing effort. It requires the same effort as running any business, if you can't see yourself doing and enjoying that role on a daily basis then maybe the internet as an income is not for you.

For those that are not put of by some serious work, John's method is a good place to start and get the money flowing, it will also set you up for affiliate opportunities down the track if that part of the internet appeals to you.
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You can get up and running with a very decent hosting plan for under $30 bucks for your entire first year including a domain name (if you just look for a coupon code). In other words, you can get started for the price of a movie for 2. There are just so many ways to make money with that hosting plan, you really HAVE to get that money back at least ten fold within the course of a year if you at least try, and not even try all that hard.

The first site I put up I hand coded (without any idea what I was even doing). It looked awful, and I had NO idea about SEO (on-site or off). But I found a relevant affiliate offer, put up the banners, added a couple links, and moved on. Within 6 months, it had made $250 in commissions. In the time since, it's made around $5,000 in affiliate sales. And I have never touched it, other than to move it to a slightly less hideous static template.

I've literally never not made money on a site, whether through affiliate offers or adsense. It might not be much, but they always make money. Maybe it's $15 a month, maybe it's $900. They key is actually putting in the work to get them live and building the links.

There has never been a business opportunity as easy to start and to build as an internet business. If you really want to start one, then you can find the money, even if you have to collect cans. Because it is shocking how much you can bring in with just that $30 investment, some effort, and lots of trial and error.
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4+ years online to be exact, with another 6 previous years failing at many
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10 years total.

And I'm grateful for every minute of it.

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10 years, probably i should show this thread to my gf.

she is kinda "complaining" the rate i am earning at adsense.
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10 years, probably i should show this thread to my gf.

she is kinda "complaining" the rate i am earning at adsense.

It's going to be double hard to get ahead on the internet if you have to worry about a spouse or girlfriend complaining. When I started on the internet I told my girlfriend that I was going to make a living with my computer and if she wanted security she should shop around for it because I don't want to hear complaining. Well I did hear complaining but I would just close the door. Now 12 years later she is glad she stuck around. Sometimes you have to go with your gut and if that mean dumping her, so be it.

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I know the content is great and he does a wonderful job of laying it all out, has anyone been able to pull in the incredible CTR that he has (IE: 50% +)?
I'm using his guide to the T and only see 2-5% CTR..... I haven't had much luck yet. $.20 days aren't thrilling when being pulled from 4 mini-sites, most being on the first page of google for their keyword phrase.
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I'm using his guide to the T and only see 2-5% CTR..... I haven't had much luck yet. $.20 days aren't thrilling when being pulled from 4 mini-sites, most being on the first page of google for their keyword phrase.
My CTR are substantially higher than that. Maybe it's your keyword selection or site layout? I'm using my own custom coded WordPress template so maybe my layout is different than yours.

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Well my layout is extactly as John describes. In fact, I built it in XsitePro, just as he did. I've seen very little success. I've tried to vary the format, color scheme, width, etc - I found my CTR dropped from the staggering 2-5% down to .5-1% so I think the layout is okay.

On the keywords, I've done my best to follow it precisely as well. My primary niche URL uses a 3 word keyword that meets a variety of criteria for serach volume and SOC. (I also use MNF just like John).

What's your advice on keywords? I email John and we shot a couple replies back and forth, but he would never give me a straight answer. What's your input? Here's an example Phrase I might use: "Gold Soccer Shoes" or "Braun 7625 Shaver" - am I missing the golden egg someplace?

I have about 130 articles on Ezine pumped into these 4 sites, and another 40 at GoArticles as well. I even used Article Announcer on the one site in a desperate attempt to generate different forms of traffic; AA has distributed over 3,000 combined articles for these keywords. I have a huge selection of tools at my hands - everything from Xrumer,AA,APR,MNF, the FBI and CIA (just kidding) so I'm willing to try anything. It's really crappy because I have about $300 tied up in URL's I've bought but haven't done anything with because I can't even get the first 4 off the ground.

*I would consider myself an ideal individual to show something to - I'm willing to do the work*
Of course that hard work earned me a 1.XX CTR today... Had I had enough posts I was going to post a picture of my 50 cents of "Success"

So please, educate me on what has worked for you. I'm all ears at this point. Check your PM for more data regaurding my seriousness.
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Well my layout is extactly as John describes. In fact, I built it in XsitePro, just as he did. I've seen very little success. I've tried to vary the format, color scheme, width, etc - I found my CTR dropped from the staggering 2-5% down to .5-1% so I think the layout is okay.

On the keywords, I've done my best to follow it precisely as well. My primary niche URL uses a 3 word keyword that meets a variety of criteria for serach volume and SOC. (I also use MNF just like John).

What's your advice on keywords? I email John and we shot a couple replies back and forth, but he would never give me a straight answer. What's your input? Here's an example Phrase I might use: "Gold Soccer Shoes" or "Braun 7625 Shaver" - am I missing the golden egg someplace?

I have about 130 articles on Ezine pumped into these 4 sites, and another 40 at GoArticles as well. I even used Article Announcer on the one site in a desperate attempt to generate different forms of traffic; AA has distributed over 3,000 combined articles for these keywords. I have a huge selection of tools at my hands - everything from Xrumer,AA,APR,MNF, the FBI and CIA (just kidding) so I'm willing to try anything. It's really crappy because I have about $300 tied up in URL's I've bought but haven't done anything with because I can't even get the first 4 off the ground.

*I would consider myself an ideal individual to show something to - I'm willing to do the work*

So please, educate me on what has worked for you. I'm all ears at this point. Check your PM for more data regaurding my seriousness.
It's very hard to answer this type of question without knowing
very specific details.

If you are getting such a low CTR then I would say the traffic
is not targeted enough.

A "template" is only a small part of the equation.

If you could provide the following then it would be much
easier to help:

1) How many visitors are coming to your site.
2) Where are those visitors coming from (i.e. what keywords
are they typing in?)
3) What ranking is your site's main keyword sitting at?
4) What is the approximate search count for that keyword?
5) Are your Adsense Ads showing up with related products
to your visitors search query?

In other words, just because you are getting a terrible CTR
it has only a small connection to your template.

Lastly, for the record the high CTR examples in my book
were stated as occurrences that are not the norm for every
site - I'm very happy with a 20 - 30% CTR on average.

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Godoveryou - I think maybe you should slow down a bit and focus. Maybe do some different testing. Really understand the results and make the changes needed. But, give it some time before you start changing things up again.

I think $300 tied up in urls, that your not even using, sounds a bit frantic. It's good to have a plan but don't jump too far in to the future. Maybe by the time you get to use them, you will have learned something different, and it won't make sense to use the urls you've already got laying around.


Even so, It's great that you've taken some action! A lot of people won't put in as much effort or get to where you are. So congrats!!!


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John,

I gave you the URL for one of the site's.

1) How many visitors are coming to your site.

- Daily volume is 75-150 on weekdays. <100 on weekends
-Working on improving this through additional pages being added to each site, with each keyword being pounded into my article rotation.

2) Where are those visitors coming from (i.e. what keywords
are they typing in?)

- The keywords are close to my targeted.
- *REAL EXAMPLE* - "Braun Electric Shaver Reviews"
- Often get vistors from "Electric Shaver Reviews"
- Began to target "Electric Shaver Reviews" in my backlinks because I saw that I was getting traffic from it.

3) What ranking is your site's main keyword sitting at?

- two of the four sites are both sitting at #8. One is sitting at #12. The other bounces between 4 and 20? I think that's google trying to figure out the AA articles and the duplicate content filter is going nuts. This may all change on Monday. Ezine has about 30 articles in stage 3. So that should free up an additional 60 backlinks.

4) What is the approximate search count for that keyword?

-Between 1300 and 2600 searches a month depending on the phrase.

5) Are your Adsense Ads showing up with related products
to your visitors search query?

- Yes. At first no, but I corrected that issue through on page content manipulation.


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Godoveryou - I think maybe you should slow down a bit and focus. Maybe do some different testing. Really understand the results and make the changes needed. But, give it some time before you start changing things up again.

I think $300 tied up in urls, that your not even using, sounds a bit frantic. It's good to have a plan but don't jump too far in to the future. Maybe by the time you get to use them, you will have learned something different, and it won't make sense to use the urls you've already got laying around.

Even so, It's great that you've taken some action! A lot of people won't put in as much effort or get to where you are. So congrats!!!


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Thank you for seeing that I'm willing to pay to play and put some articles out there...

As far as the URL's - it wasn't frantic. Just the reverse actually. I decided that I would trust John and keep building sites as he suggested in his book. I made a very concious decision about the URL's based upon the idea that if they weren't used for adsense, I would simply turn them into Amazon-Based Review type sites with for sale banner on them to sell to other webmasters down the road. Either way, it's not money "Lost," just tied up for now. Either way, if I had to dump the other 28 URLs, the couple hundred bucks is an annoyance but it's not damaging finacially.

I bought them knowing that I could get out from underneath them if I needed to. That's the pawn broker mindset that I carry with me in purchasing decisions.

As far as making site adjustments, I typically only adjusted one site and left the others close the John's template. This was done purposefully as a "Control" for my testing. I'm very well aware that ADHD like behavior is not typically web-friendly and certainly not what you want when trying to drill down a problem.
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I agree with John that 20%-30% (sometimes higher) is about par for the course for the sites that I produce.

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Congradulations - what are you doing so right and what am I doing so wrong?
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What I have found is that some sites/keywords that appear to be good candidates actually produce ads that don't match closely enough.

For example, a site about "motorcyle parts" may seem good BUT when you look at what ads show up, they are more closely matched to buying motorcyles (not parts).

What I do for the sites I create is ensure the ads will match them before starting the process for a given keyword. I think this is why the sites I create do so well. Admittedly, I'm not too into article marketing (still getting used to it) so I'm still leasing some of my sites out to people having trouble with keyword selection and such.

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I found that same thing too. Luckily it only affected a one of my secondary keywords on that site. I immediately rectified that when looking at keywords in the future. A product and model number seemed like would do well also, but sometimes that isn't the case. For instance, I've found "(name brand) Gold 7854" generally couldn't produce an ad set that match the item. Howver, just listing the product name and color did very well, one ad even saying the color right in the headline.

It seems like the only keywords that will really do well are the keywords with low monthly search numbers (1500 or less). So far my top producer is a site that only is titled for 1300 searches a month at this point, total - despite the fact that my other more frequently searched and viewed sites almost never produce a click.

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My sites don't target anything with fewer than 3000 searches per month.

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For sites where ads are not matching, do you try section targeting - or are the ads simply not available? That has helped me on several sites.

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All of my sites utilize section targeting.

Its not that the ads do not match, per se. They just aren't as targeted as I'd like them sometimes. Exact match ads just are not available all the time. Although Google may deem motorcyle ads as a match for a site on motorcycle parts, I do not.

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My sites don't target anything with fewer than 3000 searches per month.
Your total site doesn't target fewer than 3000, or just the main keyword/url doesn't target fewer than 3000?
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Congradulations - what are you doing so right and what am I doing so wrong?
I've got few more sites up than you, and having better (but not fantastic) success (yet).

I think you need more sites. Some are just going to work and some will just be low performers. Maybe all 4 you have are in the low to mediocre range for some reason? Maybe they'll take off eventually, maybe not.

4 is too small a sample set to draw conclusions from (spoken like the true ex-mathematician I am). Throw up another 8, varying any and everything you care to experiment with (or nothing should you chose), and see what happens. That's what I'm doing right now.

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I've currently got two sites up. The first one is finally on the first page of Google for my main keyword. Waiting for my Exinearticles articles to get approved. It currently makes anywhere from $.50-$1/day.

The other site isn't indexed yet, but I anticipate it to do a bit better.

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- The keywords are close to my targeted.
- *REAL EXAMPLE* - "Braun Electric Shaver Reviews"
- Often get vistors from "Electric Shaver Reviews"
- Began to target "Electric Shaver Reviews" in my backlinks because I saw that I was getting traffic from it.
Is that your actual site? The reason I ask is you say it's a real example and I tried typing it in and didn't see anything that looked like it would be your page on page 1 of Google.

Be sure to sign out of Google before you check to see what page your site is on. I didn't realize you had to do that for the longest time and wondered why my site was sitting on page 1, position 1 with no traffic. Turned out it was on page 4 or 5.
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2) Where are those visitors coming from (i.e. what keywords
are they typing in?)

- The keywords are close to my targeted.
- *REAL EXAMPLE* - "Braun Electric Shaver Reviews"
- Often get vistors from "Electric Shaver Reviews"
- Began to target "Electric Shaver Reviews" in my backlinks because I saw that I was getting traffic from it.
For these sites, I don't go after "reviews" keywords. I aim for actual product keywords as in your shaver example. I want people who are in the buying phase to find my site - not those who are trying to figure out which widget they need.

If someone is looking for reviews and comes to one of my sites, they will hit "back" since I'm not giving them a review. If they're looking for a specific product, the big ad block could be mistaken for a link for those products on my site.

At least that's how I suspect it works.

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Is that your actual site? The reason I ask is you say it's a real example and I tried typing it in and didn't see anything that looked like it would be your page on page 1 of Google.

Be sure to sign out of Google before you check to see what page your site is on. I didn't realize you had to do that for the longest time and wondered why my site was sitting on page 1, position 1 with no traffic. Turned out it was on page 4 or 5.
It may depend on where he lives, too. I'm in the UK (so go through google.co.uk automatically, even if I type in google.com) and could see his site on page 1, position 7.

I've noticed that one of my keywords (which gets a lot of searches in the UK, but not so much in other countries) is top in google.com's DCs, but 'only' second in google.co.uk's DC.

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For these sites, I don't go after "reviews" keywords. I aim for actual product keywords as in your shaver example. I want people who are in the buying phase to find my site - not those who are trying to figure out which widget they need.

If someone is looking for reviews and comes to one of my sites, they will hit "back" since I'm not giving them a review. If they're looking for a specific product, the big ad block could be mistaken for a link for those products on my site.

At least that's how I suspect it works.
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Always wanted to make money with Adsense...but what would be the easiest way to start for a newbie of course?
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