Killer backlink - but no juice passed

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So I managed to get an awesome backlink, however, the page for some reason is not cached in Google, and not being picked up by GWT or Majestic.

The page has the following stats:

DA 44, PA 24
TF 15, CF 34

I figured a page like this would pass juice rather quickly.

Page does not have meta robots set
There is no robots.txt file

The link has been there over a month and still not picked up by GWT or Majestic. The page appears to be indexed in Google, but no cache present.

The page is not rendered by JS or anything like that, my link is actually in the source.

What am I missing here?
#backlink #juice #killer #passed
  • Profile picture of the author John Alves
    I would need to look at the link to see what the issue actually is. It might actually be getting cached by Google, but the cache option is not listed in Google for that link. As far as the link juice being passed, it can take time for a link to give off full value. Links mature overtime, so if you are depending on only one backlink, it is going to be hard to see a ranking improvement from one link in the short term. The link must also be dofollow, and I am not sure whether it is dofollow or nofollow.
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  • Profile picture of the author onegoodman
    My first question would be how did you get this backlink ? did you buy it ? have you verified the site is not dropped / expired ?
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  • Profile picture of the author dave_hermansen
    Too many questions. I would add that one month is not a long time for a link to not be helping. Sometimes it's 3 months or more.
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  • Profile picture of the author anandkjha
    I can't say without link. It will take time to pass the link juice. May be more than 1 or 2 month its depend on authority of linked site.

    So good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
    Originally Posted by Eduard Jackson View Post

    The link has been there over a month and still not picked up by GWT or Majestic. The page appears to be indexed in Google, but no cache present.
    ?
    Majestic prioritizes crawls of pages so a month is not enough time to be sure theres an issue . Also GWT may not show every single links. At around four weeks its not enough time to know if there is an issue

    SEO my friend can be slow to show results these days
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  • Profile picture of the author michaelkoehler92
    Do you have control over that link property? Was it organic, Paid or self made?
    Also yes as other said link juice or effects takes time many a times.

    Keep it a rest if the link is indexed then surely it will show results too.
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  • Profile picture of the author Eduard Jackson
    So just to answer a few questions - it is a dofollow link.

    It is a paid link, however, it is a donation based backlink. Its not your typical donation for link site though, lets just say its a bit obscure. Of all the donors, I am the only one from the looks of it using it for SEO purposes, so there is nothing spammy going on. OSE spam score of 1.

    Site is not adult content or anything out of the ordinary for Google.

    Its actually been 6 weeks to this day when the link first went up on the site.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    • Profile picture of the author pixelcreative
      What do you mean? Majestic values doesn't matter. What we need to care then, can you help us a bit..

      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      Who cares what any 3rd party or even Webmaster Tools says about your backlinks. WMT has never shown 100% of any data type (backlinks, ranked keywords, etc...).

      You want proof the backlink exist, view the HTML and/or text version of the backlink webpage. Boom! Magic.

      The cache issue could be a few different things:
      • The backlink page is new or sucks (rarely reindexed/cached).
      • OP is impatient.
      • Backlink host is often down.
      • The backlink page isn't even indexed.
      • etc...


      Good grief, DA, PA, TF, CF. None of that matters, it's just a trophy for the folks in Pagerank relapse.
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  • Profile picture of the author Eduard Jackson
    The backlink page is new or sucks (rarely reindexed/cached).
    OP is impatient.
    Backlink host is often down.
    The backlink page isn't even indexed.
    etc...
    The page does not suck and is more than 5 years old.
    OP is definitely impatient.
    Backlink is likely almost never down
    Backlink page is indexed

    The rankings were supplied to give a context to the authority of the site. In my experience sites of this level are indexed quickly and cached often. Other links of a similar value show up in GWT within a few weeks.

    What I'm asking is there some other X factor that could cause this not mentioned above.
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  • Profile picture of the author paulgl
    Originally Posted by Eduard Jackson View Post

    The page appears to be indexed in Google, but no cache present.

    What am I missing here?
    You are missing the super-duper importance of being cached.

    A tad off topic from here on, but google uses the cached version in ways that (probably) most people don't realize. In fact, the lunacy of huge word counts and other such nonsense should be a whole new discussion.

    Okay....that said, page might be noarchive.

    Not the greatest setting, but it has its place. There are serious reasons why you want a cache of your webpages.

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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    The link might never show up in WMT or Majestic. That doesn't really mean it is a good or bad link. Neither of them ever show 100% of a site's links, and in Majestic's case, they never will even find all of the links a site has. Google will find them (unless the page is orphaned and/or uncrawlable), but they have historically only ever showed a small fraction of site's links in WMT.

    Lastly, the metrics you are looking at can be highly inaccurate. They are not metrics used by search engines. They are created by 3rd parties trying to make educated guesses on the value of a page/site. Sometimes they get it right. Sometimes they get it horribly wrong.

    One way they often get it horribly wrong is in not keeping up to date. What I mean by that is Majestic and Moz do a reasonably good job of finding links, but a horrible job of keeping recent data on if those links still exist. They just keep adding links to their database, but a huge percentage of those links may not be there today. It makes the metrics they calculate look good, but in reality, if they had more accurate data about the current state of those links, the metrics would be much lower.

    If you want to be a little more sure, I would take the links pointing to that page and run it through a live link checker (SpyGlass or Scrapebox, for example) and see what you find.

    At the end of the day though, there is no exact time frame for when a link will be "counted". It could be weeks or longer before that page is recrawled and cached. With the exception of really, really popular sites and pages, Google does a great job of finding new pages, but doesn't revisit already indexed pages nearly as often. A newly created page might be found in 6-7 days (or much faster). Newly created content on a previously known page, might not be catalogued for 6-7 weeks (or longer).
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Why did they delete my last comment? I told OP to PM the URL If he wanted actual help instead of playing the guessing game.

    Cool, figure the shit out on your own.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dokemion
    Originally Posted by Eduard Jackson View Post

    So I managed to get an awesome backlink, however, the page for some reason is not cached in Google, and not being picked up by GWT or Majestic.

    The page has the following stats:

    DA 44, PA 24
    TF 15, CF 34

    I figured a page like this would pass juice rather quickly.

    Page does not have meta robots set
    There is no robots.txt file

    The link has been there over a month and still not picked up by GWT or Majestic. The page appears to be indexed in Google, but no cache present.

    The page is not rendered by JS or anything like that, my link is actually in the source.

    What am I missing here?
    First not all backlinks will be cached, 2nd if it does you need to wait and give it time to be cached.
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