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400 Niche Sites SEO trying to rank locally on each. Questions and Suggestions

by adogg
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I have 400 sites and I have 2 questions. Should I be using different IP addresses for each one? Is that still a thing?

Some of the interior pages use the same content. Is this going to kill my local ranking? I am guessing yes. So should using noindex or nofollow fix this problem for the 500 sites?

What other suggestions do you have?
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  • Profile picture of the author mrjackpowers
    Yes. Use different IP addresses. ESPECIALLY if your sites are in a similar niche. Google is a master at recognizing "content farms," and spamming them accordingly.
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    • Profile picture of the author adogg
      Yeah, right now, we have about 4 or 5 per IP address and they are all showing up in the same niche. I was thinking with some using the same content too this is going to killing our ranking. Right now none of them show up in results. And locally in many markets it is not even competitive.
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      • Profile picture of the author mrjackpowers
        Yes, duplicate content would be another red flag for Google. It's not bad if it's on different domains, registered to different owners (yes, they track that too), AND from different IPs. But as part of one network, it's an issue. If it were my project. I'd restart with a handful of sites and focus on getting those ranked before publishing hundreds. Otherwise, your network might be permanently marked as a junk network.
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by adogg View Post

        Right now none of them show up in results. And locally in many markets it is not even competitive.


        They're probably all buried in Supplemental SERPs, assuming the pages are indexed. Did you check to see If the pages are indexed?

        Also, is your content original or did you scrape the content from existing ranked pages on domains you don't own?
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        • Profile picture of the author adogg
          The pages are indexed and the content is original. But previous people coppied some of the sub page content to all 400 sites. Home page is all original.
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  • Profile picture of the author st0nec0ld
    Whoa 400 sites? That's hilarious! Sorry, but does it make sense to have multiple sites but same almost have the same content on it? I don't have an advice though, maybe you want to re assess your sites, eliminate those that are not that valuable. And also, I wonder what's your site niche??
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    • Profile picture of the author pehlavoon
      I'll have to agree. That's a lot of loot to control. Adogg, I hope you got a team of warriors to control all those sites. Maybe even sell a few.

      To answer your question; Yes, 100%. All of them should have different IPs. At least, the ones you care about.
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      • Profile picture of the author adogg
        I have a team of developers and content writers. Right now they do not rank in Google. They are offices in each market.
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    Originally Posted by mrjackpowers View Post

    Yes. Use different IP addresses. ESPECIALLY if your sites are in a similar niche. Google is a master at recognizing "content farms," and spamming them accordingly.
    Originally Posted by adogg View Post

    Yeah, right now, we have about 4 or 5 per IP address and they are all showing up in the same niche. I was thinking with some using the same content too this is going to killing our ranking. Right now none of them show up in results. And locally in many markets it is not even competitive.
    Originally Posted by pehlavoon View Post

    I'll have to agree. That's a lot of loot to control. Adogg, I hope you got a team of warriors to control all those sites. Maybe even sell a few.

    To answer your question; Yes, 100%. All of them should have different IPs. At least, the ones you care about.
    Originally Posted by adogg View Post

    I have 400 sites and I have 2 questions. Should I be using different IP addresses for each one? Is that still a thing?

    Some of the interior pages use the same content. Is this going to kill my local ranking? I am guessing yes. So should using noindex or nofollow fix this problem for the 500 sites?

    What other suggestions do you have?

    Some responses that make no sense.

    Why do you need different IP addresses?

    From what you said, you created 400 different sites that you want to rank in 400 different local markets. This is not a network you are trying to hide from Google. You could care less if Google knows you own all 400, and in this case the duplicate content would give that away anyhow.
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    • Profile picture of the author adogg
      I am not trying to hide the network I am trying to get them to rank locally in each market. So you don't think these need to be on seperate IP's? These are individual offices that actually exist in each market.
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      • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
        Originally Posted by adogg View Post

        I am not trying to hide the network I am trying to get them to rank locally in each market. So you don't think these need to be on seperate IP's? These are individual offices that actually exist in each market.
        I don't see any reason for them.

        If you were trying to rank all 400 sites nationally or trying to rank them all in New York City, that would be different. You also wouldn't do that with cookie-cutter sites that have the same content.

        Anyhow, the only benefit to being on different IP's in your situation is that you would be on different servers. If you put all 400 on the same server and that server goes down, all 400 sites go down. Nothing to do with SEO though.
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        • Profile picture of the author adogg
          Is there an advantage if we develop individual content for each and put them on separate IP's?
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          • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
            Originally Posted by adogg View Post

            Is there an advantage if we develop individual content for each and put them on separate IP's?
            Again, I don't see the point of the separate IP's.
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            • Profile picture of the author adogg
              I guess in my mind google would see each domain as individual sites locally?
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              • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
                Originally Posted by adogg View Post

                I guess in my mind google would see each domain as individual sites locally?
                The IP is not going to have anything to do with them seeing it that way or not.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Is this 400 unique niches or just 400 office locations?

    Do you really need 400 domains?

    If it's only office locations my advice is look at US pizza chain restaurants, how the sites are structured and indexed on Google SERPs.
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    • Profile picture of the author adogg
      Yes, we need 400 domains. Each office is individually operated.
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanbiddulph
    That # makes me dizzy. God bless you.
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    • Profile picture of the author adogg
      The number is getting bigger too... As more offices are added.
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  • Profile picture of the author jame2009
    Use different IP addresses.Google is a master at recognizing "content farms," and spamming them accordingly.
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    • Profile picture of the author yukon
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      Originally Posted by jame2009 View Post

      Use different IP addresses.Google is a master at recognizing "content farms," and spamming them accordingly.


      Meanwhile, 400 sites with the same content.

      Nobody will figure that one out.
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      • Profile picture of the author adogg
        So MikeFriedman above says doesnt matter and your saying, use seperate IP's. hmmm
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        • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
          Originally Posted by adogg View Post

          So MikeFriedman above says doesnt matter and your saying, use seperate IP's. hmmm

          Look, the reason you hear people talk about using different IP's to host their sites on is because they are talking about a network of sites that they want to build links from to a money site or set of money sites. The belief is that links coming from different IP's will be stronger and look "more natural". Putting them on different IP's also helps to camouflage the ownership of the sites and make it much more difficult for Google or anyone else to figure out that they are owned by the same entity.

          For what you are talking about doing, you are not worried about either of those things.

          So what is the point of using 400 different IP addresses?
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          • Profile picture of the author adogg
            Mike,
            I am only trying to improve ranking and increase traffic to make money but correct I don't care if they know who owns it.

            Thanks
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            • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
              Originally Posted by adogg View Post

              Mike,
              I am only trying to improve ranking and increase traffic to make money but correct I don't care if they know who owns it.

              Thanks

              I know. You have 400 "money sites", not 400 network sites like I described above.

              So again, having 400 different IP addresses does not gain you anything from an SEO perspective.
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              • Profile picture of the author adogg
                Knowing this, how would you handle it? Any suggestions? Start updating the content to be different? Start updating the information in google maps.
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                • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
                  Originally Posted by adogg View Post

                  Knowing this, how would you handle it? Any suggestions? Start updating the content to be different? Start updating the information in google maps.
                  Honestly, I would pick 5-10 of them and start working on those. Try different things and see what works best.

                  I would not start with 400 sites on day one. Figure out what works first and then scale it up.
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