Google, no follow, etc...

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I just don't get Google's thinking:

First they tell you 'use nofollow' then they discount thousands of links for any of a hundred reasons even when they are legitimate votes. It seems that they are really trying to count only the votes they want to count, and not a single one more.

The trouble is: their definitions vary over time; and I really don't get it. Yet there are dozens of searches I know of where the results aren't useful at all, especially name searches which bring up dozens of irrelevant directories, etc...

According to Yahoo Site explorer, one of my sites has over 5000 inlinks, and yet Google only counts 2 links. 2 out of over 5000 links. The whole linking game for PR makes less and less sense over time, to me and to my searches.

Why? Why? Could it be that the Google machine is producing good results, but that the PR system is seriously broken.

Kenneth
#follow #google
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  • Google has always applied filters selectively. They will always do what is in their own interests.

    Google is the ultimate Scraper Site. They do not create content. They scrape then sell ads. And then tell everyone else to not do what they do. Ironic isn't it?
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    • Profile picture of the author pons_saravanan
      Yes
      A true good search engine crawler should be able to read a variety of pages and should not put lots of restrictions to the web pages.
      Still there are various ways to identify a good content rather than relying more on back links. I hope some one will create a crawler which will promote the pages based on 'On Page' factors more than Off Page factors such as back links and directories. until then the web is going to be full of spams and useless texts.
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  • Profile picture of the author sijugk
    As long as google is the market leader we are bound to obey what google says. It is google's proprietary algorithm which decides which links should be calculated and which one not and we are no one to say anything.


    About back links check in yahoo explorer and google


    Yahoo counts nofollow links too and the sum will be high
    Google won't display full back links in open search and you should use webmastertools for checking exact backlink count.
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    • Profile picture of the author AJsVRE
      Originally Posted by sijugk View Post

      Google won't display full back links in open search and you should use webmastertools for checking exact backlink count.
      The quoted above is true. I posted it recently in response to someone else, but google randomly displays links to your site when you search for them. The reason being that if they only showed the "good" links, or all the links for a site, someone else could reverse engineer their ranking and try to rank a different site above it.

      On the flip side, you have to look at things from Google's perspective, vs what site owners are trying to accomplish. Google WANTS the best, most relevant information returned for a user's search query. That's what they built their reputation on.. use google, it will show you what you are searching for. Doing that gives them the largest "market share" of search engine users (anyone that's searching for something on the internet).

      Want to rank highly? Write REALLY good content that other people WANT to link to. You'll rank high for that sort of thing. What most site owners are doing, is trying all these different things to push our own sites up to the top for various given search results, even though their site may not be the BEST site for the given query. Why? Money of course, that's what we're here for right? To get the user to search for something, find our site or our article and then buy something, click on an ad, or sign up to our email list.

      The problem that google faces, is how exactly do they build a SYSTEM that finds what the best site is for any given search, without having other people manipulate it? They can't look at every search term individually.. dear god just think of some of the crazy, obscure searches that are performed probably every HOUR. "old time polka dotted yellow cotton shoe lace" lol.

      The point is, it's not going to be perfect, and that's why you sometimes see results that might not be that "useful".
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