What Matters Most In SEO? Site Age, Internal Links, External Links

Chris-

14 years ago

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kkchoon

14 years ago

You need aged site for Trust rank to build up, and internal linking when your site is big enough!

External links still the most effective way to start with, when your site reach certain PR, your internal links starts to show it's power!

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askloz 14 years ago

Not necessarily.

If the site content structure is good,and correct internal linking structure is good, then you wont need any back links... I've already proven to peeps a year or so ago that backlinks aren't necessary, but keyword proximity / relevancy and link proximity / prominence will beat external linking faster.

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External links still the most effective way to start with, when your site reach certain PR, your internal links starts to show it's power!
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SouthamptonAngel

14 years ago

Age of site is certainly important but I would say that the actual domain name is also vital.

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AmyKay

14 years ago

I think relevant backlinks.

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kkchoon 14 years ago

Originally Posted by AmyKay

I think relevant backlinks.

Many experiment shows relevancy is not helping.. and my own experience tells the same
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- SouthamptonAngel 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by kkchoon
  
  Many experiment shows relevancy is not helping.. and my own experience tells the same
  
  That's an interesting point. In your experience, do you find that relevant links do help more in the most competitive industries though?
  
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MemberWing

14 years ago

Quantity and quality of backlinks from other sites.
The rest is secondary, including contents and on-site optimizations.

As an experiment I ranked my 5 months old domain with 1 page of lame content above 90M of competing pages on the first page of Google for $10+/click keyword phrases.
Just via backlinks and most of them from irrelevant sites.

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AlphaWarrior

14 years ago

Originally Posted by MemberWing

Quantity and quality of backlinks from other sites.
The rest is secondary, including contents and on-site optimizations.

As an experiment I ranked my 5 months old domain with 1 page of lame content above 90M of competing pages on the first page of Google for $10+/click keyword phrases.
Just via backlinks and most of them from irrelevant sites.

Gleb

What kind of backlinks did you use? Reciprocal links, blog postings, forum postings, articles, custom articles for a specific site, social media, other?

Thanks!

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MemberWing

14 years ago

Originally Posted by AlphaWarrior

What kind of backlinks did you use? Reciprocal links, blog postings, forum postings, articles, custom articles for a specific site, social media, other?

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SEO4Life

14 years ago

Relevance DOES have some sort of effect or rankings but it is not drastic or even worth the time in my mind.

For example you could spend 2 hours placing 10 relevant backlinks
or you could spend 2 hours and create 40 non relevant backlinks.

The 40 non relevant backlinks will push more link juice then the 10 relevant backlinks

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turbohips

14 years ago

I can't even find enough relevant sites to post links to. I agree that quantity from any high PR site works much better. I'm not getting fast results like some people post but over the span of 3 months I'm ranking on page 1 for many keyword phrases by using high PR backlinks.

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SEO4Life

14 years ago

Originally Posted by turbohips

I can't even find enough relevant sites to post links to. I agree that quantity from any high PR site works much better. I'm not getting fast results like some people post but over the span of 3 months I'm ranking on page 1 for many keyword phrases by using high PR backlinks.

Seo is a slow process generally, you can rank faster by using web 2.0 sites though

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euhlir

14 years ago

Your page needs the basic SEO implemented. And then backlinks are the most important.

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sweetfranky

14 years ago

External links are by far the most important factor. It doesn't matter what your page is about if your on the front page of google, you will rank well.

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kkchoon

14 years ago

You need a lot of link juice to make internal link worth the value

else

New site would be able to rank high just from internal links, but the fact is external links will let you rank high but not internal links.

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askloz

14 years ago

no you dont

link juice is not what only makes you rank, its the words that are the main important factor, not links like most ppl think.

Originally Posted by kkchoon

You need a lot of link juice to make internal link worth the value

else

New site would be able to rank high just from internal links, but the fact is external links will let you rank high but not internal links.

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kkchoon 14 years ago

Originally Posted by askloz

no you dont

link juice is not what only makes you rank, its the words that are the main important factor, not links like most ppl think.

Do you mind showing me a site with no external links but internal links that rank high?
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- askloz 14 years ago
  
  I would show you mine, but i spent 18 months studying how to do it properly and sommat like that Im not gonna give up for free. sorry.
  
  just study seo properly and do a LOT of testing on where to place words in your articles and where exactly to place the links in your articles
  
  Originally Posted by kkchoon
  
  Do you mind showing me a site with no external links but internal links that rank high?
  
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MA SEO

14 years ago

Well for the really competitive keyterms, it is unlikely you will rank unless your site is at least a year old. Google places a very heavy algorithm on site age for some reason.

Probably because google favours ranking information sites better than commercial sites, as they want the latter to use their adwords system.

And when the internet first site, it was mainly information sites, so the older the site the less likely it is to be commercial. obviosuly this is a generalisation, but I think thats a reason why google places weight on site age.

After gaining some authority internal linking is very important. This is because you need to show google which is our most important page, normally home page by having all the other pages in your website linking to it.

Internal rankings can improve your rankings well for sure.

But by far, the most important is good relevant external backlinks with keyword rich anchor text. This is still the holy grail of seo, and is obviously for another thread.

hope this helps

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warrior123 14 years ago

They all count towards ranking high in the SERPs but the one that carries the most weight in determining your ranking is the amount of high quality backlinks pointing to your domain with the keyword(s) in the anchor text.
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zombo

14 years ago

Thanks for the tips guys

Do you think "related articles" on blogs work well? I have just added this to my blog and will be seeing how it goes for me!

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Helps Here

14 years ago

Askloz, very interesting info...i think onsite linking is very important too...trying to figure out exactly how to do it...

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Jayson L

14 years ago

Internal SEO is 100% controllable by yourself. Start with that and then get backlinks. You won't find authority sites without both.

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ZeroBull

14 years ago

I don't believe it is always about the links, as I have pages ranking high on page one with Google for low competition longtail terms.

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2d0k

14 years ago

The number of relevant links, quality website content and domain age..

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mlmguru

14 years ago

I am wondering about internal links, can anyone give me advice on this? I have a blog and usually can link each blog post to several other posts, how important is this and is it bad to link all my post back to a certain post or page or pages? I've been making regular post and leaving the internal linking out all together, am I making a mistake by doing this?

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Ramin

14 years ago

I think Relevant External links...and better say : linking to your site is the most important part of you SEO.

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DASHBOY

14 years ago

I am sure that "EXTERNAL LINKS" played an important role here other than other factors. I had experienced that, for a keyword competitive search, A site which had about 06 months old with about 10-12 pages, is listed on top # 5 due to STRONG + QUALITY backlinks.