I have 45,000 blogs on hundreds of ip's and domains, FINALLY :-)

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For the last eight months I've been using some customized software that allows me to make blogs on other peoples wpmu (wordpress multi user) installs.

So as of right now I have around 45,000 unique wordpress blogs on hundreds of unique ips.

I was also able to get some web 2.0 sites near the top of google for some great niches by posting backlinks in my blog posts.

I have also been posting news and music articles with links to cpa and clickbank offers and the sales were good for the first few months.

However, over the last 3 months the sales have slowed down.

I've become bored with the project and have lost my momentum and was hoping a good discussion might inspire something.

I'm looking for new ideas to monetize.

What would you guys do?

Thanks for looking,

Update: Just checked and I have about 48,000 blogs I can post to.
#blogs #domains #finally #hundreds #unique ips #wordpress #wpmu
  • Profile picture of the author spyxx
    Did you use LFE? Did you check if all of your blog still getting the same amount of traffic? Some of my blog get deindexed this last couple weeks.
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  • Profile picture of the author Benjamin Ehinger
    I would like to know more about how you got this many blogs out there. Will someone pm me and explain what this is all about.

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  • Profile picture of the author oliverwinston
    spyxx- I didn't use LFE to make the blogs, it's more of a customized software package.

    Benjamin Ehinger- I can't PM yet so I can tell you what its all about here. I post to 45,000 different blogs anytime I want and I put links to my websites on the blog posts and people click on my links or the links are spidered by google and my websites get very high search engine rankings. (I'll see if I can post a picture)

    Razer Rage- I couldn't get the same amount of link juice from one blog.
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    • Profile picture of the author discrat
      Originally Posted by oliverwinston View Post

      spyxx- I didn't use LFE to make the blogs, it's more of a customized software package.

      Benjamin Ehinger- I can't PM yet so I can tell you what its all about here. I post to 45,000 different blogs anytime I want and I put links to my websites on the blog posts and people click on my links or the links are spidered by google and my websites get very high search engine rankings. (I'll see if I can post a picture)

      Razer Rage- I couldn't get the same amount of link juice from one blog.
      Maybe thru some good ole work, patience, and time you could get the amount of Link juice you are looking for in a Blog. Hell, even a couple of dozen is fine...............but 45,000 blogs ?? Come on, man !!
      That is ridiculous and quite honestly this type of behavior gives us Bloggers who strive to have decent original content and add some value really a bad name.

      Instead of clogging up the Internet with useless Splogs that add no value to Cyberspace except make you a few bucks take some time to develop a business that last awhile and attempt to add some quality to other's Lives !!
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      • Profile picture of the author goindeep
        Originally Posted by discrat View Post

        That is ridiculous and quite honestly this type of behavior gives us Bloggers who strive to have decent original content and add some value really a bad name.

        Instead of clogging up the Internet with useless Splogs that add no value to Cyberspace except make you a few bucks take some time to develop a business that last awhile and attempt to add some quality to other's Lives !!
        I've used this word twice today, its really doin well for me.


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    • Profile picture of the author Willmarathon
      Originally Posted by oliverwinston View Post

      spyxx- I didn't use LFE to make the blogs, it's more of a customized software package.

      Benjamin Ehinger- I can't PM yet so I can tell you what its all about here. I post to 45,000 different blogs anytime I want and I put links to my websites on the blog posts and people click on my links or the links are spidered by google and my websites get very high search engine rankings. (I'll see if I can post a picture)

      Razer Rage- I couldn't get the same amount of link juice from one blog.
      How much does 45,000 cost you,if you don't mind me asking? If they are all over the world then they all are not free.

      I think you are the famous guy who owns the Free Traffic System? Am I right?
      How come you cannot put links that end in .html in the URL files for your articles?
      Why is there so much trouble in postin the links to those articles? Other people have that problem, not just myself. Do you do that on purpose so people have to pay for support?
      If you are not the owner of Free Traffic System, I apologize for the questions.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mattk
    Originally Posted by oliverwinston View Post


    So as of right now I have around 45,000 unique wordpress blogs on hundreds of unique ips.

    I don't know what this is all about, but I am feeling really worthless and lazy right now.:rolleyes:
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    • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
      Originally Posted by Mattk View Post

      I don't know what this is all about, but I am feeling really worthless and lazy right now.:rolleyes:
      I'm feeling quite efficient making more money running less sites.
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    impressive, are these all autoblogs?
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  • Profile picture of the author Christian Fox
    I sent you a PM but I missed that you can not respond...
    Interested in what it is...

    I'm feeling quite efficient making more money running less sites.
    lol yes but with many links from different IP's you can make still more money with these sites...
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    • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
      Originally Posted by Christian Fox View Post

      I sent you a PM but I missed that you can not respond...
      Interested in what it is...



      lol yes but with many links from different IP's you can make still more money with these sites...
      Yes, the IP variation may be of some interest/value. I would actually add valuable content in exchange for links - provided the sites were relevant to niches I was promoting.
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  • Profile picture of the author 1960Texan
    45,000 blogs?!!! You are to the Internet as the Exxon Valdez was to the coast of Alaska.
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  • Profile picture of the author Colin Palfrey
    Me thinks somebody is tiddling in that great river of knowledge we call the internet.
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  • Profile picture of the author Christian Fox
    45,000 blogs?!!! You are to the Internet as the Exxon Valdez was to the coast of Alaska.
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    That made me laugh...
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  • Profile picture of the author Jay Rhome
    Too bad I can't PM you. I think I know what software you're using - are they by a dude that just released a free article grabber on his blog (seomu****es)?
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    • Profile picture of the author oliverwinston
      Jay Rhome- It's a customized version that combines parts of several different softwares.

      Discrat- Thanks for the advice. Good luck in your pursuit of original content and real value in your blog and I wish you success. The content I post is spun content that is commonly accepted as having value to the reader. Very similar to myarticlenetwork.com
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  • Profile picture of the author DogScout
    Even if you are only making $10 a blog, thats almost 6 mil a year. How much of a problem could it be?

    Sell post space
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    • Profile picture of the author theimdude
      I got Big Mike's blogbot and wasn't really going to use but doing it this way could work. Blogbot also spin's the article so if you prepare a good article you should get fairly good content.

      So can the OP share his 45 000 blogs but I hope the registration is auto as it will take me a while to register on all of them.

      I better email Mike and ask him if blogbot can handle 45000 submissions as it only come with a few
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      • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
        Originally Posted by theimdude View Post

        I got Big Mike's blogbot and wasn't really going to use but doing it this way could work. Blogbot also spin's the article so if you prepare a good article you should get fairly good content.

        So can the OP share his 45 000 blogs but I hope the registration is auto as it will take me a while to register on all of them.

        I better email Mike and ask him if blogbot can handle 45000 submissions as it only come with a few
        I've just tried BlogBot and it does not spin content.

        What shows up on the blogs is {A|Another} {title|heading}. {content|more content|another article}, etc.

        In other words it posts the article with all the spintax intact.

        It's the first time I used it, so I probably did something wrong.

        Will take it for another try and see what happens.
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    • Profile picture of the author JadeCloud
      Originally Posted by DogScout View Post

      Even if you are only making $10 a blog, thats almost 6 mil a year. How much of a problem could it be?

      Sell post space
      I doubt he is or ever will be able to make $10/ blog otherwise he
      wouldn't be here now asking for advice would he.

      Plus the renewal fees must be astronomical. Are these free blogs or
      did you register 45,000 domains without having a plan on monitization
      beforehand?
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      • Profile picture of the author arvin.buising
        Originally Posted by JadeCloud View Post

        I doubt he is or ever will be able to make $10/ blog otherwise he
        wouldn't be here now asking for advice would he.

        Plus the renewal fees must be astronomical. Are these free blogs or
        did you register 45,000 domains without having a plan on monitization
        beforehand?
        WPMU blogs are on other people's domain. You just create a sub-domain when you apply for a blog. So there's no renewal fees.

        This technique of getting backlinks is an old one but I've never seen it done in this magnitude.
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  • Profile picture of the author derekwong28
    If you could give us a ballpark figure of how much you could earn with this technique, it would be of great interest to many of us.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fraggler
    If you have the backlinking tools to back it up and the blogs are properly categorised and managed then the 45k blogs will become very powerful. They don't need to generate any money.

    They can be used to push any real site to the top of the serps in no time. Interlinking of the blogs should remain random and selective to not generate a footprint and each blog would need an equal portion of external links so as far as google is concerned the blogs are not related.
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    • Profile picture of the author theimdude
      Originally Posted by Fraggler View Post

      If you have the backlinking tools to back it up and the blogs are properly categorised and managed then the 45k blogs will become very powerful. They don't need to generate any money.

      They can be used to push any real site to the top of the serps in no time. Interlinking of the blogs should remain random and selective to not generate a footprint and each blog would need an equal portion of external links so as far as google is concerned the blogs are not related.
      Ok I get it now. So basically this is a spam system to spam articles and to give another reason for google to do another slap

      Google staff training for the SLAP to come

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    I have seen auto blogs with better content then normal blogs.

    You can't "take up space" in the internet, I don't get what you guys are complaining about.

    I have no idea how to monetize that, heck you could set up your own seo service if you could post to all of them.
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  • Profile picture of the author emigre
    you said these blogs are on hundreds on unique IPs...how many hundreds exactly. If you offered a backlink service from these blogs I'll be interested if they're indexed.
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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
    do you use SENuke?

    Are you serious with that number? Can you provide an estimate what the blogs are making, traffic etc...or do you use those mainly for strengthening some money sites of yours?
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  • Profile picture of the author jazbo
    Backlink service. Pure and simple.

    If people sent you an articles with a link in and you charged $1 an article, thats $45,000 a month. I can't believe you have been sitting on such an opportunity not making any money.
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  • Profile picture of the author jazbo
    I have not got your point at all TBH :confused:

    If he sells article slots with a link in each, then the purchaser is building relevant content for the blog and getting a link. All he has to do is categorise the blogs and set up relevant feeds to get the articles into the blogs. And I cant see him being naive enough to sell sitewide links, or for many people to be naive enough to buy them

    If he does that then yes every blog will have relevant content. No idea how anyone would define "useful" - I assume you mean "readable"?

    Originally Posted by karlsult View Post

    45,000 blogs owned by one person is not something Google wants. It's scaring.

    Does each and every single blog has unique and original (and useful) content? If not it's not a valuable service if you offer something like selling links on them - like Sitewide links. Because ultimately Google does not like such blogs.

    Got my point?
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  • Profile picture of the author Davioli
    To all of the posters looking at this in awe.. It's quite easily possible with the right software.
    while Link Farm Evolution can do something like this..I've used Blogslammer to do a similar thing.

    When he says 45k blogs on hundreds of Ip's its most likely a few hundred blogs per WPMU host. There's tons of free WPMU hosts around and it takes a simple Google search to locate most of them.

    The part about submitting content to them is what's difficult in managing these many blogs. Blogslammer sends spun content but its a tough job even doing that because you can't really have one article spun 45k times..so you gotta do em in batches which means alot of work.

    It is however becoming difficult to run such farms because WPMU hosts already know how to look for these sorta blogs on their domain. The trick is to improve your content and try and take some time in nimproving the look of these blogs.

    What seems to work these days is to reduce the number of blogs to a manageable amount...say 2 or 3k and then work on improving them.
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    • Profile picture of the author webjedi
      So it's been awhile, whats the status of this blog empire?
      is it up ? Is it down? Has it grown?

      I am curious about your accomplishments over 1 year after this original post.


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  • Profile picture of the author Christian Fox
    The hard part would be figuring out how to not get wealthy with that many blogs. You could do just about everything wrong and still be fine. Hell, they could all get deindexed by Google and you would still be fine.

    The only thing stopping you at this point is cancer or a bad car accident...

    You could retire on Adsense income....

    The only thing I don't like is that since they are not technically yours you don't actually own them but the other option would be too costly.
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  • Profile picture of the author Davioli
    @Christian
    it isn't easy to just put your adsense code on all these blogs. Since these look spammy there's a high chance of having your adsense account banned.
    The best way to monetize this is to use something like the Mage system (I haven't personally used it... but it would work really well)
    To someone who KNOWS what they're doing..this is very powerful for getting better rankings to your secondary websites.
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    • Profile picture of the author Christian Fox
      Originally Posted by Davioli View Post

      @Christian
      it isn't easy to just put your adsense code on all these blogs. Since these look spammy there's a high chance of having your adsense account banned.
      The best way to monetize this is to use something like the Mage system (I haven't personally used it... but it would work really well)
      To someone who KNOWS what they're doing..this is very powerful for getting better rankings to your secondary websites.
      I see your point...

      Not seeing why the mage system would be really needed, however I am not totally rehearsed in it by any means. He has a way to post spun content and the blogs are already created. He didn't say if he can backdate posts so I guess that could be of help.

      I am considering LFE because they have added lots to it with more to come per my research. Blogger, tumbler, pligg sites and more to come.

      When I used Senuke they had a WPMU option but I never got into that.
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      • Profile picture of the author Davioli
        Originally Posted by Christian Fox View Post

        I see your point...

        Not seeing why the mage system would be really needed, however I am not totally rehearsed in it by any means. He has a way to post spun content and the blogs are already created. He didn't say if he can backdate posts so I guess that could be of help.

        I am considering LFE because they have added lots to it with more to come per my research. Blogger, tumbler, pligg sites and more to come.

        When I used Senuke they had a WPMU option but I never got into that.
        Yeah LFE looks like its the real deal. I'll bite the bullet soon. Normally im wary about these software especially if they're just newly released. Most don't have enough support and end up being unusable after a few months.

        About the Mage system.. I would think something like that would work...even if you don't use his stuff you can take some time and build your blogs slowly. The point is to use CJ and Amazon to monetize as opposed to the volatile Adsense.
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        • Profile picture of the author Christian Fox
          Originally Posted by Davioli View Post

          Yeah LFE looks like its the real deal. I'll bite the bullet soon. Normally im wary about these software especially if they're just newly released. Most don't have enough support and end up being unusable after a few months.

          About the Mage system.. I would think something like that would work...even if you don't use his stuff you can take some time and build your blogs slowly. The point is to use CJ and Amazon to monetize as opposed to the volatile Adsense.
          Yeah I am biting my tongue on that but I was just trying to make a point...

          I would not bank on anything Google based they are just too picky and have too much power to eliminate you at their whim. I watched a Frank Kern video recently where he tells of Google deleting I forget how many thousands of affiliate marketers Adwords accounts at one go. Bang, your business just went in the toilet... No thanks

          I am hoping to get LFE within a month provided sales stay on target....
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          • Profile picture of the author Davioli
            Originally Posted by Christian Fox View Post

            Yeah I am biting my tongue on that but I was just trying to make a point...

            I would not bank on anything Google based they are just too picky and have too much power to eliminate you at their whim. I watched a Frank Kern video recently where he tells of Google deleting I forget how many thousands of affiliate marketers Adwords accounts at one go. Bang, your business just went in the toilet... No thanks

            I am hoping to get LFE within a month provided sales stay on target....
            Yeah.. Gone are the days when everyone loved Google!
            2010 is focussed fully on diversification. Can't really rely on any one network these days.
            The Adwords thing probably had more to do with the FTC..but Google were trigger happy and thats really bad PR for them.
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  • Profile picture of the author bigbyte
    I would recommend to think about a better SEO strategy. Mass linking is often the first issue when being de-indexed. How many of those 45K blogs are still indexed?

    Also, build smaller pockets. These blogs should not link to your money sites. You want a 3 layer website system. Level 1 is your main money sites. They need to be clean and have only good neighborhood links. Level 2 are niche targeted websites with unique content (not SPUN content) that link to your money making sites. Level 3 = your 45K blogs that link to your Level 2 sites in groups no bigger than 100 or 200.

    A system like that would protect your money making sites. It also reduces the risk of losing it all in one big de-indexing sweep. It might be too late to do that, but moving forward you could still use some of the infrastructure and make adjustments.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Kohler
    What is LFE? I bought Blog Farm Generator 2 years ago. I have received an update but Joe's forum seems to be... unkept. Lots of spam. No replies to emails. Hopefully he is okay.
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  • Profile picture of the author ninfanforlife
    that is quite a feat. So much that you could do with that many blogs and potential links I can see how you got bored, lots of repetition I am sure!
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  • Profile picture of the author Jay Rhome
    Originally Posted by oliverwinston View Post

    So as of right now I have around 45,000 unique wordpress blogs on hundreds of unique ips.

    I was also able to get some web 2.0 sites near the top of google for some great niches by posting backlinks in my blog posts.
    That's what he's been doing. Using web 2.0 sites - NOT his own domain - and using his huge network to do the backlinks to them. Since Hubpages, Squidoo and the like receive tons of backlinks daily, using massive amounts of backlkinks to them doesn't raise a flag like it would on a domain.

    Isn't using all the MU Hosts to put your blogs draining THEIR resources? Bandwith, hosting, etc

    If not, than I don't buy in the "using space" theory. I mean the web is infinite in a way. Draining other people's resources though that's not fair use.
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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
    by the way, thinking about it:

    There is no fricking way that you can manage those blogs nor can do anything useful with them after you made them.

    Just think about it: Simple posting ONE new link on any of those blogs would take days and days, even with a computer which is doing nothing else than posting a link to each blog

    The only thing this system can make sense with is if each of those blogs is already pre-made, with affiliate links etc..or each one a 100% autoblog, but there is no way that you can "manage" 45.000 blogs after they have been created...
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    • Profile picture of the author oliverwinston
      Hi Everyone,

      Thanks for all the advice, especially the PM's. I'll be replying back once I upgrade my membership.

      It seems the common request is to let others post articles and backlinks on my blog network.

      It sounds like a great idea to me :-)

      I'm sure it will help build your web 2.0 rankings, I just got a site in the top 5 on google in about 72 hours.

      I'm working on creating a fair way for other warriors to get access to my blog network.

      I will work on a WSO so you can get thousands of backlinks fast.

      Let me know if anyone has any ideas for the WSO. I've never done one before and want to make sure it's within reach of everyone since the WF has helped me learn so much and I can help give back this way.
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      • Profile picture of the author oliverwinston
        To all the people who suggested I sell space on the blog network thank you.
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      • Profile picture of the author Tony Dean
        I look forward to your WSO in due course - interested in plenty of backlinking that's for sure.

        Need any help with the WSO fee?
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    • Profile picture of the author oliverwinston
      Hi T.B.,

      You are incorrect.
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      • Profile picture of the author oliverwinston
        GeorgR- "There is no fricking way that you can manage those blogs nor can do anything useful with them after you made them."

        Actually with the software we use and a high speed broadband connection we can post articles and links extremely fast and it's never been a problem to manage that many blogs.
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  • Profile picture of the author oliverwinston
    Daniel- Great post, you are right about so much. Content is still king and so far the content quality and the way we are posting content has been working great as it is allowing our sites to get top google rankings really fast.

    It seems to be the catch 22 of this system, because it's thousands of blogs on thousands of domains and hundreds of IP's on servers located all over the world and owned by hundreds or thousands of different people our system gets amazing results, but each blog owner in our network can close their hosting account or remove their network at anytime.

    To help offset the removal of backlinks for paying customers, which is a big concern we are doing extra backlinks for each customer.
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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
    Originally Posted by Daniel McGonagle View Post

    Man, a lot of people here are pretty ignorant about what you're doing here Oliver.

    Blogbot creates WPMUs, as does LFE.
    Dont know blogbot...but doesnt SENuke this for ages already also? Concept is certainly nothing new.
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    45.000 its a big number... i`m just curious :
    how much money did you get out of this ? ^^
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