What kind of domain should I set up to generate my own backlinks to my Adsense sites?

by carlos123

Posted: 14 years ago 20 replies

I have been doing a lot of SEO thinking recently. About how best to get backlinks to my Adsense sites.

Ezine articles is one way but as I have said in other threads....I don't particularly like giving Ezine my writing for free to their greater benefit while getting the dribble of traffic that I get in return. Not to mention that writing articles is a pain at time.

I don't mind writing great article pages for my own sites but for someone else? That's a different story. I have no motivation at all to give another site the very best that it is in me to write.

Then there are places like digg.com and twitter.com but their nofollow of links makes such places of limited use if any for getting quality backlinks.

Ezine, twitter, digg, and others all have their rules. Some have hundreds of rules. Rules upon rules. As to what I can and cannot do. While many rules are common sense they all are essentially oriented around what is best for themselves not around what would work best for me.

So the best thing seems to be for me to create my own version of ezine or twitter or whatever and promote myself through that means. More editorial freedom. Better anchor text placement. More motivation to give my own sites my very best writing.

I am not talking about creating a real ezine or twitter mind you. Only about creating sites that mirror some of what they have.

A site for example where instead of giving ezine my articles I simply blog them. Where instead of putting a micro-blog tweet on Twitter I simply upload a paragraph about my site to...well...my own micro-blogging site.

But there are some things I am not sure about and would appreciate input on.

I think the best thing is to register my promotion sites (through which I will promote my other sites) under private whois.

And to copyright them under an alias name.

So that there can be no overt connection between the real me and the sites I set up to promote my Adsense sites.

Secondly I am unsure about what kind of sites to set up actually. While the main purpose of setting up these sites would be for self-promotion of other sites I will want them to be quality sites too. I don't create junk and I don't consider myself a spammer.

So among the following which one's do you all think might be best to focus on creating?

- a web site review site where I would post just a paragraph or two describing new Adsense sites I set up and soliciting reviews of them by others in the comments.

- a web development site where I showcase my web site development skills, write articles related to web development, and then on a page in the site somewhere...link out to my Adsense sites as examples of the work I have done.

- a site showcasing my Adsense site creation CMS (that I have developed primarily for my own use) linking out to my Adsense sites to show examples of the kind of sites that it can create or otherwise linking out to my Adsense sites to illustrate points I want to make about what my CMS does with them.

Of course the list of Adsense sites mentioned in any or all these sites would change or rotate. I would never list them all. The main purpose for listing them would be to get them indexed more quickly when first created and/or to get Google to refresh their index copy when I make changes on them.

The other problem is that you, my Adsense competitors, might come upon my sites and well come to know many of my Adsense links.

I still don't understand fully why Adsense publishers keep their url's secret so concerns in that regard may not warrant my keeping my own secret but still the fact that so few if any publishers let out their url's may indicate some valid reason for me to not make them so public through a series of my own sites.

Overall I have come to think it's nuts the way we internet marketers keep using places like ezine and gotoarticles and other such article directories to get some backlinks when we could do as much if not get much greater benefit by setting up and using our own sites to promote our own articles.

Anyway any and all input on the above as to what might be best would be most appreciated.

Thanks.

Carlos

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carlos123 14 years ago

Re-reading through what I just posted I see one problem

However much I private whois my self-promotion sites or copyright them under an alias...if I include a bunch of links to my Adsense sites...well...it will be pretty obvious to a human reviewer that I am who I am.

Of course even if reviewed by a human my self-promotion sites will still have value by themselves and will not be out of the norm of what a normal site would be about so I should be okay in that regard.

But...still...my attempts at keeping my identity secret are at best quite thin in their effectiveness I think.

I have to keep in mind that even ezine's founder uses ezine articles to promote his own sites. So ezine itself isn't doing anything other than what I would be doing. I think the main problem Google has with such self-promotion of one site by another is that usually such sites have no real value other than for the self-promotion. Mine will have value on their own though I also will focus on using them for self-promotion too though on a much smaller scale than anything being done by ezine's founder for example (he's got something like 20,000 articles on ezine!).

Carlos
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Davioli 14 years ago

Sorry I would want to give a really long reply to your post but i'm running late.. I'll keep it short

- Get multiple C Class ip hosting
- Register Domains or transfer your existing domains to to the host. (if you already have aged domains they'd work best)
- Start blogging on your own domains and linking to your adsense sites

How to link is somethign that'll take a lot of time to explain. just make sure youu make it look natural..for example don't use one website to link to one adsense website.

Also build backlinks to these feeder blogs. This improves their quality and in turn improves the links you get from them.

Make sure you have different themes for each website. Also make sure you don't interlink between them.

Make your links within the content rather then going for the easy way out (blogrolls or footer links)

never use your adsense on these sites. Use other means of monetization..or best yet.. don't have any external links except your own backlinks.

It is a good idea to link to edu or wikipedia sites though it is as yet unproven how Google weighs this in the whole scheme of things.

Sorry if this looks all random. I've written it in a hurry.
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- carlos123 14 years ago
  
  Hi Davioli. Whether hurried or not I do appreciate your input. It's confirming some of what I have been thinking.
  
  Also I am not an entire newbie as to how to properly anchor text out for backlink juice or otherwise not set up two way linking throughout my sites (a dead giveaway). But of course you don't know that .
  
  Incidentally I have seen first hand the value of one way linking out to edu or high authority sites.
  
  I have been building my Adsense sites using that as one of my three site building keys. Adding a few outgoing one way links to authority sites (I know this is against common internet marketing wisdom but it's working great).
  
  Along with great writing and exact phrase domains this is working great for me in placing my one page Adsense sites (one page initially) into the top 100. If they get there I then focus more effort on getting them to the top ten (if they don't make it there on their own).
  
  I put up a one page site and then wait to see where it initially lands in the rankings. If it gets into the top 100 I put more effort into it. If not...I leave it and go on to build other sites.
  
  Glad to hear that someone else is not taking the ezine path hook, line, and sinker and doing some backlinking to their sites on their own.
  
  Carlos
  
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Davioli 14 years ago

I'll be testing out the authority external link strategy in the next few months. It seems to make sense and its good that you've tested it out.

I do a similar thing to what you do. test out the niche with a one page site and an exact domain and then go ahead with a full authority site targeting alot of different long tails.

Oh and I do use Ezine and other article directories. Its all part of a mixed linking strategy. the more different your links are the more better.
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Louis Raven

14 years ago

So you want to set up another site (b) almost twitter/digg like right? then you will add your content from website a to b instead of giving a's content to somewhere like EzineArticles.

Solid plan. Just one thing.... How will you get traffic to b so that traffic will flow to a?

How about you set up c

Only joking and I do see what you're trying to do. OK, below I'll list reasons why us marketers use other sites to store our content and maybe you'll make your own mind up..

1. EZA, Digg, and Twitter have already established an authority and hold a lot of traffic.
2. They will most of the time get your title to the top pages of google.
3. They make sharing and spreading the word much easier than most websites are set up to.

So unless you have the funds and/or time to build a PageRank 6 website that will do the 3 above, it's so much more easier to use them. Also, save you best content for YOUR own sites and submit the bare minimum to article directories if you only want backlinks.

I could go on but it's late for me, if you need specific help just PM me or reply.

Louis

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arttse

14 years ago

How about setting up your very own article directory. You can be the only author if you want. You can put your own affiliate links, adsense ads etc where ever you want. There are a few free article scripts you can use.

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carlos123

14 years ago

Thanks for the added input you all. Much appreciated.

I recognize the high authority value of places like ezine but quite frankly their high authority does dillisquat for me if all I am interested in is getting some indexing recognition from Google. I want my sites to get indexed quicker and/or for Google to recognize changes I make on them faster.

That's all I am really looking for at this point. And for that a link placed in even a forum signature works well I think with respect to helping Google along to recognize that my sites are there.

Secondly...Google is not stupid as much as we internet marketers may like to think they are sometimes. Google recognizes that places like ezine are flooded with internet marketers trying to game the search engine. What makes us think that Google will give our sites linked to from there the kind of link juice that we might wish for? Just because someone put up a cheap article at ezine? I wish it was that simple but I don't believe it is.

Sure we will get some link juice. Absolutely. But I venture to say it's not as much as we might think.

Regardless ezine walks away with 90% of the benefit for our hard work and gets all of us to give them our writing for free. Promising us the world in backlink value but in reality delivering just a small pittance of the link juice they retain for themselves. That's nuts if you ask me.

I recognize there is some value in giving them some articles but why should we not all start our own independent blogs and use them to give ourselves our own link juice. Without having to abide by their hundreds of rules and policies?

I just read of a guy today that creates a new mini-blog at a different blogging site every day pointing to one of his sites. A lot easier than using ezine.

I am also coming to realize that there are an absolute ton of sites that allow the start of micro-blogs that have dofollow links. Like tumblr.com and others. I think I may try and use them first and see how it goes before I start down the road of building my own mini-blogs. It's easier that way.

Tumblr.com didn't even ask me to agree to their TOS which was refreshing so in good conscience I can go ahead and blog there and not worry about a hundred different rules I have to follow.

I won't get as much link juice through tumblr like I would with ezine but who cares? In the low competition niches I am targetting I don't need no super fancy link juice. I just need a little to beat the pants of the competition.

And I love not having to give away something almost for nothing to ezine. It's get real tiring having to come up with new spins on content to give to ezine that does not nearly duplicate my existing site page content.

Carlos

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carlos123

14 years ago

For anyone still following this thread...I've decided to just start blogging in various places to build my own high quality backlinks rather than setting up my own domains to do that.

The problem is that most places like Blogger and WordPress deny us the opportunity to create a blog for the purpose of improving our ranking through quality backlinks.

It would be one thing if they made rules about content. I mean they do but that's not all the rules apply to. They now go into the realm of motives and make rules against certain motives they consider spam. Never mind if you contribute good blogging content or not. Doesn't matter.

If you are out to make money and increase your site rank by setting up a blog to work in high quality links to your money making sites....they say no.

It's the motive they have a problem with. In truth they cannot tell whose blog is set up to create quality backlinks or not if the blogger creates quality blogging so if they can't discover "spammers" by their content they will not attack the motives. Those evil, evil people out to make money from their sites :rolleyes:

But that's just ridiculous. I mean judging a motive as being spammy and saying no to the motive of setting up a blog to improve our money making as if money making and doing things to improve our chances is somehow wrong.

Hypocrites! They are in it to make money too! So they decry such motives in others but not in themselves.

Anyway I found a blogging platform that doesn't care and that will allow me to create high quality backlinks through whatever blog post I want. I've talked to the Administrator there and he is fine with what I am trying to do though of course I venture to say that he would prefer that I create some useful content.

At the very least I can just create my own ezine related articles there and get the backlink juice that way without jumping through ezine's hoops.

If anyone is interested this blogging platform is at FreeBloggersWorld - Just another Freebloggersworld.com weblog

I am not affiliated with this blogging platform. I came upon it through another forum I belong to.

I think if I build a whole series of blogs through such platforms hosted on different class IP's I should be fine. And if I create blogs that have decent content all the better.

I have one big blog that I have had for a year and a successful one at that. I need to move it from where it's at. I think I will just scrape content from that blog and parse it out among various other one's I create and once ever few blog posts I will write my ezine brand of article complete with my own resource box to create my own backlinks. Rather than continuing to give my writing work for free to places like ezine.

Carlos

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carlos123

14 years ago

I just found another one! Yippe.

This one allows one to create a Twitter clone. It's at Floopo - Free micro blog - start a micro blogging community just like twitter (tm) with our script - software - twitter clone - Micro Blogging Script

Now I can create my own Twitter like site hosted on my own domain and twitter away about what I am doing to build my Adsense empire. Linking to my site at will and building backlinks.

And my own domain links will all be dofollow links. Unlike the actual Twitter's which are all nofollow.

Sweet.

Carlos

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SladeK

14 years ago

Thanks for sharing the information you are gathering through your research.
I am in a similar situation, and experimenting various methods in terms of ranking my adsense sites.

To begin with, I am always happy to find people who are believers in quality content.
Through my keyword research I have come across countless one page MFA sites that are 200 words or less of regurgitated crap. While in fact everyone talks about how quality content will not get you a high ranking in Google's eyes; quite the contrary, it helps to ensure your site is around for the long haul.
As opposed to a one page 200 word adsense site empire that one day gets the dreaded manual review and shut down instantly as a result.

So kudos to your outlook of helping to reduce the size of the spam tsunami that is the basic approach to becoming successful with adsense.

Secondly, while in fact I definitely agree with your not wanting to give article directories like Ezine your quality content only to have them steal 90% of your potential traffic; they do pose a purpose. There is one primarily reason why I post to Ezine, and that is for the webmaster publishing aspect of it. I have received countless organic back links from people publishing my articles from Ezine.

Something to think about at least; if you truly care about what you are writing, and aim more so towards the reader than anything, this can be a very profitable aspect of Ezine.

The big downfall is writing actual informative material that is valuable to a reader takes patience, and I have come to find that is something that is lacking in the adsense realm of marketing.

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carlos123 14 years ago

Hi SladeK. Thanks for your encouragement. Much appreciated.

Yeah...I'm not into building junk Adsense web sites. I am in it for the long haul and figure that a little extra work in creating a quality site is very worthwhile in that I won't have to create ten junk one's for every good one I create.

In the short run I might make less but in the long run I will be smiling all the way to the bank while many of my internet marketing co-patriots will be decrying how Google canceled their accounts or otherwise smart priced them to death.

It's really hard to find good blogging platforms that do not attempt to unreasonably muzzle people wanting to make a living over the internet. Heaven forbid that anyone would have such a motive in their hearts...why...that's, that's just downright...well...spammy LOL.

Blogger and WordPress are prime muzzlers where they deny us a motive, no matter the quality of our blog content, of wanting to increase our search engine ranking through quality blog building and backlinking from them.

In some respects I think Google has put pressure on WordPress to do just that since it is next to impossible for Google to stop an avalanche of quality blogs linking out to related and owned sites to get backlink juice.

That would kill Google. I mean if all of us, instead of using ezine and centralized places like that, scattered to the four corners of the internet and created our own mini-Twitters and ezines and WordPresses and backlinked to ourselves from all over the place. How would they stop that? They couldn't.

Anyway I am looking at one more I found in my searches. It's at tBlog: Free Blog Templates! Blog Hosting!

While their terms do reserve to themselves the right to cancel accounts they deem to be spamming. They don't specify what spamming is which in my mind gives me the liberty to create a decent blog and link out to myself every once in a while. I emphasize a decent blog and not just "Here's my Adsense site! Come take a look at it!" one sentence blog posts.

Of course that Twitter like script script I found has some interesting potential. Setting it up somewhere where I create my own Twitter like domain to keep my family and friends informed about what I am doing and when I am picking my nose type of thing. With some mini-posts included once in a while pointing to my Adsense experiments of course LOL.

Carlos
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carlos123

14 years ago

Originally Posted by SladeK

There is one primarily reason why I post to Ezine, and that is for the webmaster publishing aspect of it. I have received countless organic back links from people publishing my articles from Ezine.

Sladek (don't know what else to call you)...if you don't mind doing so can you elaborate on this for me a bit more?

What do you mean by organic back links? I mean the organic part of it?

When you say publishing your articles from Ezine do you mean that people include your articles in newsletters and such with a link back to you? It's been hard for me to believe that this happens much since I would never use an article in a newsletter of my own that could be picked up and used by countless other newsletters who would pick it up the same way. I would want to give my readers the unique benefit of my one and only articles.

I've only really been looking at it from a purely backlink perspective. Figuring it's just as good if not better for me to create my own backlinks outside of ezine.

But...if syndication is happening quite a bit...well...maybe I need to rethink my stand against ezine writing.

It still seems better for me to offer my own articles at my own site for syndication off my own site but then again my site won't have ezine's audience.

ezine articles are decent for a spurt of traffic initially. I think they put new articles on their high traffic home page for a day or something. I've noticed a spike initially of about 10 unique visitors the first day or two. But then their traffic dies down to almost nothing while my article sits there at ezine continuing to bring traffic off the search engines to them mostly to their benefit. If the click through rate from Google to my ezine article is 5% (not bad) and if the ctr through my article at ezine to me is yet 5% of that then I effectively end up with a pittance of traffic.

Still...any syndication might be nice.

Any additional insight you might care to share with us would be appreciated.

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Carlos

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SladeK 14 years ago

Ezine has a section primarily for publishers in which people can come on and take the articles off Ezine to put on their own sites.
However, they have to follow specific guidelines, one of which includes not altering the article in any way, and leaving the resource box in tact; which includes the initial back links from that article to your web site.

How they ensure that publishers do not infringe on the copyrights of the articles I am unsure of, as I have never gone through the publishing portion of the site.

One thing I do know is that of the articles I have had published and went back to check on, more so out of curiosity than anything; all of the content was unaltered and the links in my resource box were still functional.

One thing to make note of, however, is the fact that some publishers will not copy the article in source code. So having one of your resource box links actually consisting of the URL for your root domain is a safe way to ensure you still receive a functional back link whichever way they end up publishing the article.

With all of the traffic Ezine gets, the possibilities for syndication are definitely there; just depends on the topic you are writing about, and what your primary focus in writing the article is.

Obviously if you are writing simply to drive traffic to a landing page, odds are you are building curiosity more than anything to bait people to click on the resource box link for more information. These articles tend to be less informative and not as attractive to publishers.

If you are writing solely to get back links, then as long as your content meets Ezine standards you are good to go.

Personally, I am writing more so for back links and syndication, I could care less if someone clicks on the link or not. As such, I write informative articles that leave little room for questions or curiosity in the end. I have found these types of articles will bring more possibilities for publishing because they deliver the information the reader was looking for.

Either way, it is up to you. You will by no means get thousands of back links a month going this route. But it is a maintenance free way of getting natural back links early in a campaign; and I for one, have had pretty decent success with it.
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- carlos123 14 years ago
  
  Interesting insight Sladek.
  
  I may have to change my ezine technique to see if I can get some syndication. Mostly I have written 400-500 word articles, the least I need to in order to get just the backlink. I haven't tried to write a really good article to get syndication, traffic, or anything else. Just the backlink.
  
  Good to know you've gotten some syndication.
  
  I still don't know if I want to really focus on writing a really good article for ezine though (say around 750-1000 words of quality content). My motivation is really low for putting in that kind of effort into it. I'd rather reserve that for my own sites rather than give articles like that away to ezine over and over again.
  
  Regardless thanks for sharing your further thoughts.
  
  Carlos
  
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affiliated survivor 14 years ago

You need more than 1 site to improve your rankings. You need links from many domains. I thought and I keep thinking about something like this myself. But I haven´t found the perfect solution yet. My ideas so far:

-Make autoblogs that get new pages automatically indexed. With a bookmark plugin, pinging etc.

-Make article directory like sites and fill them with spun content. These sites should also get indexed more or less automatically.

-Make blogs with a non-static homepage. On the homepage there are 10 snippets of the content of my 11 site blogs with a link to the actual page of these articles. Give the homepages of these blogs (only the homepages) a heavy load of backlinks so they have quite some link juice to pass on. Also interlink these blogs and pages. These snippets on the homepages also contain 1-2 links to another domain. The content should be something that ranks easy and with little backlinks needed. Like X-Factor adsense keywords.

-Build Sniper like mini sites that make quick money on their own and use them to make links to other pages on other sites.

Every model has his advantages and disadvantages. One could use the comment function for additional backlinks. I haven´t decided yet what to do but I must get more control over my link building. So that essential backlinks don´t just disappear or become no-follow.
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- carlos123 14 years ago
  
  Hi Affiliated Survivor (interesting name...don't know what else to call you).
  
  Thanks for sharing your thoughts. More comments below yours...
  
  Originally Posted by affiliated survivor
  
  You need more than 1 site to improve your rankings. You need links from many domains.
  
  It all depends. If you are going up against a site that has zero backlinks at all, one quality backlink (assuming all else is equal) should allow you to outrank them. If not then two or three.
  
  So it really depends on your competition. All my niche competitors have less than 50 backlinks each (at least the competitors in the top 3 positions in Google which are the only positions I really care about traffic wise).
  
  I orient my keyword research around finding such niches where they also have at least 2500 to 20,000 LSV searches per month and where other criteria I look at are in line as well. It takes me a lot of time to find such niches. I don't rely on nice software tools (other than one's of my own making which I have created) that every other internet marketer and his next door neighbor is relying on to find my niches. I figure if I swim in a different ocean I will find different fish (and it has turned out to be that way).
  
  I rarely bump into John (XFactor) Adsense sites. In fact I don't remember seeing a single one.
  
  Why?
  
  Because I am not looking in the same ocean Niche whatever software that he recommends and that all his students are using to find niches points to.
  
  I stay relatively alone finding my little niches away from the maddening crowd of internet marketers on this forum and elsewhere that all follow the latest craze like sheep to water.
  
  But getting back to your point about multiple sites. I have already set up a blog for myself. I am thinking of adding a micro-blogging page at my main business site as well. That's two.
  
  I will probably set up another blog. That's three.
  
  I am very good at blogging and have lots of material on another successful blog of mine (that has succeeded very well) that I can scrape content from. So I can easily create 4 or 5 different blogs by scraping existing blog content from my one big blog (deleting it there as I go of course).
  
  I will either incorporate my own articles a like ezine into my blogs (though without having to abide by that silly little box I am limited to at ezine called the resource box) or just create another site where I simply do the ezine...for myself. That's four.
  
  So I have four existing or potential sites about to go up. That's plenty for my low competition niches.
  
  So the question is not so much whether creating multiple sites can be done but rather how to most naturally include backlinks into those sites such that they would pass even a human review of them.
  
  Personally I don't use spun content (at least not manually spun content), I write my own article pages and am naturally LSI competent since I also do my own research and write from a standpoint of knowing something about what I am writing (I don't just B.S. my way through a whole article).
  
  A couple of things I was thinking this morning.
  
  Backlinks are usually underlined wherever they are found. Duh...they are links. But why do they have to be underlined? They DON'T. The only reason they are is that places like WordPress and Blogger are paranoid against "spammers" and go overboard trying to prevent any kind of effective backlinking.
  
  But at my own sites?
  
  I can make the backlinks whatever I want. What's to keep me from naturally saying something like..."Today I was thinking about black tuxedos...blah, blah, blah..." and having the words "black tuxedos" be a backlink but one which does not show up as a link? Nothing! At my own sites I can do that at will. The backlink will appear as natural as mom's apple pie recipe even to a human reviewer since it is unlikely that human reviewers will look at the source code to the page and see a...you guessed it...one of those terrible, "spamming" backlinks LOL.
  
  Don't get me wrong. I am not advocating that people go out and make up all kinds of B.S. to get backlinks. That's simply not necessary and not in line with my desire to live with a clean conscience before God and man.
  
  If I was thinking about my black tuxedo site then...I can most certainly say that I was thinking about black tuxedos today. You get my point.
  
  We can tie our money making sites for which we are getting backlinks into the natural content of our sites in all kinds of ways.
  
  Another one I saw yesterday.
  
  At the bottom of a page....
  
  "More by this author..." followed by a few excellently anchored text links to...you guessed it...some of my Adsense sites.
  
  There are all kinds of ways. Just look over the Internet at what seems natural to you and incorporate that same thing into your own pages but linking out to your sites.
  
  Don't over do it! Don't get greedy (I am speaking to readers in general and not to you specifically). Greed will kill us every time.
  
  Provide decent content on all your sites. Make them truly natural but get your benefit from them with respect to backlinking. We, as site owners and as those who work hard to create decent content and not junk, deserve that return for our labor at the very least.
  
  Don't just settle for the pittance that Blogger, and WordPress, and places like ezine return to us (with respect to backlinking) and having to abide by their hundreds of TOS rules for what you can and cannot do on your own sites.
  
  Make your own success through a series of web sites that you either control or that allow you great freedom of expression. That freedombloggersworld.com place or whatever it was that I linked to above and that I found is one such place. There are others. But it takes some doing to find them. They are not very common and you do have to be at least a little careful that you don't link to your sites from spamming neighborhoods that are full of internet marketing sheep thinking they can get backlinks for nothing through a bunch of junk content.
  
  Oh here's another trick I use.
  
  You know forum signatures? Well you can increase the chances of being indexed (this is just for new sites...I don't recommend this approach otherwise since you won't be able to create relevant anchor text with it) by doing the following (I got the basic idea from someone named clickbump here on a thread though I modified his technique..thanks clickbump!).
  
  Here is a typical forum signature....
  
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  Get a quote on web development at [url=http://www.mybusinesswebsite.com]My Business Website[url]
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  Here's my quick indexing help signature version (when I want to get a new site indexed quicker..
  
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  Get a quote on web development at [url=http://www.mybusinesswebsite.com]My Business Website[url][url=http://www.siteIwantGoogletoNotice.com].[url]
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  See the difference? The period just looks like the bungling of someone who doesn't know that you don't end url's with a period! That's their issue if they want to think that...that's not the truth.
  
  It's very unlikely that anyone will ever mouse over the period and see a different url. But...Google will most definitely see it.
  
  No forum that I have ever been on has a rule against this in the signature. I guess it hasn't caught on yet. Now that clickbump and me have shared this...who knows...may not last.
  
  You know how them "spammers" are? Always trying to think up ways to increase the money making potential of their web sites as if Google, WordPress, Ezine, and Blogger don't do that of course. Heaven forbid that they should have such a money making, spammy, motivation to anything they do :rolleyes:
  
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  carlos123 14 years ago
  
  I found another one that I can freely blog at that isn't paranoid about declaring that anyone setting up a blog to help them rank better in the search engines is one of those dreaded persons otherwise known as a "spammer". Yipee!
  
  weebly.com
  
  Their TOS is the usual lawyer inspired garbage with respect to going over the top to cover their own butts but at least with respect to my purposes in building an army of sites through which I can create my own quality content and backlinks...it's perfectly acceptable.
  
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affiliated survivor

14 years ago

I know the trick with the "period". Bought it a few months ago as a WSO. I did a few forums, using smilies not periods, until I got caught in a forum where you had to make at least 10 posts before you were allowed to post links. I got out of it without a real problem but, since the links did not carry much value anyway, stopped with it. It also disturbed my mindset and brought me out of balance.

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carlos123

14 years ago

Originally Posted by affiliated survivor

I understand where you are coming from Affliliated Survivor but as long as one is following the TOS of whatever site you are on it's perfectly valid. I would not recommend going around violating TOS rules. If I don't like a TOS rule I just go do my backlinking elsewhere.

Having said that though...neither do I go around advertising the fact the my period is a link to a site that I want to help Google "see" a bit faster (not that you did...I am just saying).

The best thing is to not violate TOS rules but to also be discreet even if something is not explicitly denied us.

If a human reviewer at Google comes look at one of my feeder blogs they won't see anything out of the ordinary. At least not so much that the blog would stand out as being created by an Internet Marketer trying to improve the ranking of his sites.

They have real content, from the heart, respecting what is going through my mind at any particular point in time. I even uploaded a Merry Christmas card I created and sent to all my friends and relatives at one of my feeder blogs. Wishing my readers (assuming I have any) the very merriest of Christmases. No backlinking anything on that post.

That's the thing. We need to create a real blog. Not some garbage just for the purpose of creating a backlink.

If no one ever reads my feeder blogs...well...no big deal. If they do that's okay too.

As far as signatures in forums go...I've never had a problem with linking to whatever I want in my signature when allowed to have a signature. That's pretty much left up to me.

The reason I put the site I am trying to get Google to notice in a period is because I don't want attention drawn to that site from the forum. I don't want the forum traffic. No way. It doesn't convert very well.

And I don't want to have to get into it with forum Administrators about their TOS rules and how they don't deny me the opportunity to do what I am doing with my signature links.

By being discrete nobody is the wiser. I am happy. They are happy. Everyone is happy.

A period or other naturally occurring punctuation mark is much more discrete than a smiley I think!

See what I mean? Put your mouse over the exclamation mark at the end of the last sentence. See the dummy link there? That's what I mean. Nobody would ever notice that link if I didn't mention it. Actually kind of odd that the Warrior Forum allows me to make a punctuation mark at the end of a sentence inside a post paragraph a link. That's not something they probably would want to have happen.

There isn't any quality backlinking juice from having an exclamation mark for the anchor text so such a technique is worthless for long term backlinking value but...it's valuable I think for getting Google to notice your site for indexing purposes.

Same with forum post links. No one or almost no one is ever going to notice a period at the end of sentences. The best forum signatures are indeed the one's that allow you to remove the underline but not very many allow that.

Carlos

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carlos123 14 years ago

After doing some more reading and discussing things with some others at another forum I have come to the conclusion that it's not worth using hidden links like I previously advocated using on this thread.

I wanted to come back to this thread and share that. I wish now that I had not said anything to encourage anyone to do this...for their sake.

I have completely changed my mind about using hidden links and do not now advocate that anyone use such. There is no need to do so since regular links can be used in forum signatures and other places to achieve the same quick indexing benefit that is gained by inserting hidden links all over the place.

Here is what Matt Cutts said on this issue which convinced me not to use them anymore -> Hidden links

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