If duplicate content doesn't matter...

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...then tell me how the following situation would unfold:

If I were post my article manually to 10 different directories under a different title but the same context, pointing back to my main article or website, would those links help me at all? I'm not wondering if I'd be slapped or anything, but if google decided NOT to index that dup. content wouldn't the links not count? Or do links still help you even if they aren't indexed (I would assume not : /)

Just some food for thought as I'm wondering how much re-writing etc. is required when I'm doing directory submissions, web 2.0 properties etc etc

Thanks warriors!

- Brandon Landis
#content #duplicate #matter
  • Profile picture of the author R.Rapp
    As long as you don't have the SAME article on your website, this wouldn't negatively affect your site at all. It may be a waste of time though since most of those will probably be added to G's supplemental index.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joe118
    There's a couple things all mixed up together in your questions, so I'll try to tease them apart.

    First off, if you submit to reputable article directories, chances are that search engines will crawl your articles on these sites. This means that

    Second, not all of your articles will be indexed by Google and other search engines. Indexing means roughly that when someone searches for a phrase that appears in your article, your articles on these article directories will show up in the results. Some pages will be considered primary, valuable content, and some pages will be relegated to supplemental status (only shown if absolutely nothing else can be found) for specific search terms.

    Third, all of the links on pages that were crawled will be taken into account. Obviously links on pages that were not indexed will be assigned a lower relevance. Links to your site on pages that were indexed will be assigned a higher relevance and will contribute more to your site ranking for whatever terms it is about. I honestly dont know if links from pages that are in supplemental status for a search term contribute less to the target page ranking for that term than pages that are in primary status for that search term.

    So the short answer after all of this roundabout beating around the bush is: yes, links on pages that are not indexed still do contribute to your site ranking for the terms you care about.

    And Rebecca is right (post #2 in this thread). You don't want to risk your site being one of the pages that aren't going to be indexed, so don't put the same article all over again on your money site.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
    It's called syndication ... It has been going on for years.. Even google does syndication. There is no problem posting your article to your site and syndicating it to 1,000 other places. You will still get the link juice and yes some of those can still show up on the 1st page under the same search results.

    James
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    • Profile picture of the author VegasGreg
      Originally Posted by R.Rapp View Post

      As long as you don't have the SAME article on your website, this wouldn't negatively affect your site at all. It may be a waste of time though since most of those will probably be added to G's supplemental index.
      100% not true.

      Originally Posted by Joe118 View Post

      There's a couple things all mixed up together in your questions, so I'll try to tease them apart.

      First off, if you submit to reputable article directories, chances are that search engines will crawl your articles on these sites. This means that

      Second, not all of your articles will be indexed by Google and other search engines. Indexing means roughly that when someone searches for a phrase that appears in your article, your articles on these article directories will show up in the results. Some pages will be considered primary, valuable content, and some pages will be relegated to supplemental status (only shown if absolutely nothing else can be found) for specific search terms.

      Third, all of the links on pages that were crawled will be taken into account. Obviously links on pages that were not indexed will be assigned a lower relevance. Links to your site on pages that were indexed will be assigned a higher relevance and will contribute more to your site ranking for whatever terms it is about. I honestly dont know if links from pages that are in supplemental status for a search term contribute less to the target page ranking for that term than pages that are in primary status for that search term.

      So the short answer after all of this roundabout beating around the bush is: yes, links on pages that are not indexed still do contribute to your site ranking for the terms you care about.

      And Rebecca is right (post #2 in this thread). You don't want to risk your site being one of the pages that aren't going to be indexed, so don't put the same article all over again on your money site.
      Not 100% all true, but getting closer.

      Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet View Post

      It's called syndication ... It has been going on for years.. Even google does syndication. There is no problem posting your article to your site and syndicating it to 1,000 other places. You will still get the link juice and yes some of those can still show up on the 1st page under the same search results.

      James
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  • Profile picture of the author Branlan17
    Thanks everyone! Also, how much spinning is needed for Google to consider something unique?
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    • Profile picture of the author VegasGreg
      Originally Posted by Branlan17 View Post

      Thanks everyone! Also, how much spinning is needed for Google to consider something unique?
      As previously mentioned, Google doesn't care if it is unique content or not. So there is no exact answer to your question.

      p.s. The link in your sig file leads to a WSO where you are a self proclaimed article marketing expert. Are these answers not in there?
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  • Profile picture of the author Branlan17
    In my guide I go over spinning and using the tools I do to make my articles unique. I has worked for me but my question here is more to assert as to whether or not this effort is worth the time ; )
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  • Profile picture of the author DogScout
    70% uniqueness is the same as completely unique in the eyes of a black and white bot
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    • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
      Originally Posted by DogScout View Post

      70% uniqueness is the same as completely unique in the eyes of a black and white bot
      Yeah what ^ he said ....

      James
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      • Profile picture of the author perryny
        I got tired of rewriting my articles, so I just posted my last batch of 3 articles across 6 different article sites. I just slightly modified the title.

        Most of them are showing up on the first 3 pages of google for my very long-tail keyword. I won't be rewriting or spinning articles ever again. (do a google search for one of the articles "7 major perks of becoming an independent computer consultant" and you'll see what I mean. These just went live within the last few days. EZA hasn't even accepted it yet.).

        Hubpages is the only site I ever submitted to that had a problem with duplicate content. But they state their requirements for unique content very clearly.

        Google clearly doesn't penalize for duplicate content across different sites. You just can't have duplicate content within YOUR OWN site.

        Hope this helps,
        -Rob
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  • Profile picture of the author coupon kid
    I am new to this, but James point regarding syndication makes sense. News, entertainment, and sports sites often contain the same information from the same source.

    I am sure that I am naive, but even with the computing power of google it would be nearly impossible for any algorithm to detect an exact duplicate with the endless combinations and vast amount of information on the web.
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  • Profile picture of the author Evanbutler11
    no they didn't help you. google keep eye on each site. they treat all site as on individual performance.
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