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Hi.

Is it better to have backlinks from high page ranking but unrelated websites or low page ranking related websites?

Thanks.

Jim.
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  • Profile picture of the author SEOProScott
    Generally I'd say it's better for the pages that you get links from to be related, less of a chance of getting a penalty that way from Google.
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    • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
      Originally Posted by SEOProScott View Post

      Generally I'd say it's better for the pages that you get links from to be related, less of a chance of getting a penalty that way from Google.
      Say What ???? Now if that is not about a load of crap.. What penalty, google going to beat you up because you are posted on a non-related site :confused::confused:

      Oh by the way remove the affiliate link in your sig ...

      OP : PR means nothing, ignore it ... Go and post anyplace and everyplace you can..

      James
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    • Profile picture of the author Joe118
      Sorry, neither Alexa's nor SEOProScott's answers are correct.
      1. A site can be about many different topics, so relevance is determined per pair of pages (origin and target of a link). It matters very little if at all what the site is about.
      2. If the anchor text and potentially the surrounding text around the link on the origin page are relevant to the target page, then the link is considered relevant.
      3. It is often possible for a link from a low PR page to be more valuable than a link from a high PR page. The way this happens is if the high PR page has many more outlinks than the low PR page, then the amount of "link juice" flowing along each outlink on the high PR page is lower than that flowing along outlinks on the low PR page.
      All of that is neither here nor there. A link is a link is a link is a link. You want as many as possible. If you can drop a link, do it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ben Roy
    I'm going to go ahead and vote for 'both'.
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    • Profile picture of the author Joe118
      Originally Posted by Ben Roy View Post

      I'm going to go ahead and vote for 'both'.
      And that would be the correct vote Every opportunity to get a link back to your site, ... take it with both hands!
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  • Profile picture of the author JeffLam
    Agreed with Joe here.

    A link is a link is a link!

    However, there is some truth that posting in a page from a high PR site will result in a 'higher quality' link.

    This is because higher PR sites tend to have much more 'link traffic' and more web pages, allowing it to gain it's high PR from Google with it's popularity and high traffic.

    As PR actually spreads itself from the main site to all it's pages, having a link on a page of a high PR site will receive some of the "PR" love that is passed down from the main site.

    It may sound confusing, but basically, it's all about layers.

    For example, if website A (www.websitea.com) had a page rank of say 5 and you were to post a link on the profiles pages of website A (www.websitea.com/profiles), then your backlink on the profile page is gonna be quite a quality one as the profile page is only one layer (/profiles/) away from the main page that is PR 5.

    That is NOT to say that the profiles page of Website A is PR 4! But it still has the effects of being so close in layers to the main website with PR 5.

    I did not make this up myself by the way: learnt this from the 'Art of SEO' (I think) :p).
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    • Profile picture of the author aboutusnow
      Using a tool like SEO Spyglass or Yahoo Explorer, I was surprised at how many PR0 links websites have. I would says 80% of the links to a website ranking for #1 for my keyword were PR0. Not saying that is the best way, but it seems to be the most popular way.
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  • Profile picture of the author jokarl
    I think people should think less of pagerank and more of relevancy. If you get good links from relevant pages it will pay off.
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  • Profile picture of the author SeanSupplee
    Whats up with penalties they really do not exist! Its like a billion dollar myth by now lol.
    Anyways relevant sites will be better because they stand a better chance to drive traffic from the sites you are adding the backlinks to. But if you just want random backlinks well then it really does not matter.
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    • Profile picture of the author All Night Cafe
      I'm using the backlink packages that I purchasing
      here on the warrion forum. I'm seeing links coming
      back to my sites.

      Most of these are non related sites. Just start
      your own testing. That's my advise.
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  • Profile picture of the author vidwealth
    Thanks for posting. I was slapped by google in the past and if I had used a multi strategy system the effects wouldn't have been so bad
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  • Profile picture of the author AndyBlackSEO
    Just mix it up a little. Recent testing has proved to me that relevant, decent PR ppage backlinks can increase rankings tremendously... and .. quickly! When I say decent PR pages, I mean PR2 - PR4.

    My advice though is to mix it up a little. Even throw in a few nofollow links to show a naural linking pattern.

    Don't stick ALL yur eggs in one basket.
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    Links is links - go forth an build them.
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    • Profile picture of the author snvservices
      Hi,

      According to me it is always better to get backlinks from relevant sites as, it can be more beneficial, but if you are getting backlinks from irrelevant source than there is no harm as such.

      But, if you are getting maximum backlinks through irrelevant source than in that case it may penalize your site.

      Thanks
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      • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
        Originally Posted by snvservices View Post

        But, if you are getting maximum backlinks through irrelevant source than in that case it may penalize your site.

        Thanks
        No actually it will not ... There are no penalties, unless of course you are seriously trying to game the search engines.

        Think about what you said... If 1,000 visitors decide to bookmark my site with their fav bookmarking site then that is going to hurt me because those sites are not exactly relevant because they contain many different topics...

        Come on seriously if that was true then trust me your competition would build "irrelevent" backlinks for you ....

        James
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        • Profile picture of the author shmeeko69
          I recently bought a backlink package through this forum & it has
          made a difference, I think like anything, as long as you don't go
          mental with your backlinks, just build your business with due care & attention to detail.

          Bulding a steady amount of backlinks pointing to your keywords & websites, will increase you page rankings for you chosen keywords & won't creats suspiscion with the search engines.

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        • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
          Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet View Post

          No actually it will not ... There are no penalties, unless of course you are seriously trying to game the search engines.

          Think about what you said... If 1,000 visitors decide to bookmark my site with their fav bookmarking site then that is going to hurt me because those sites are not exactly relevant because they contain many different topics...

          Come on seriously if that was true then trust me your competition would build "irrelevent" backlinks for you ....

          James
          Ok - I was happy to watch the speculation from the sidelines but this got to me.

          So many people say things like this and say it so strongly that it's almost like it's fact - but it's not.

          I've tested these things many times over the years and the truth is.....

          Sometimes it DOES matter.

          I've been able to get test sites banned by doing unrelated linking to them (I'm not going to say what I did - but it DID get that site (which was on different hosting under different owner details - there was no logical link between them)) penalised in Google.

          I could've done the same thing to competitors and they'd have felt the effect (but I didn't).

          BUT, with that said - the results I get when testing these things changes - sometimes something helps, then a month later it has no effect.

          So as far as this issue/debate goes:

          Don't believe what anyone tells you.

          Links are links - but if you were Google - what would make sense to you?

          If you're just looking for short term results - blast away, a link is a link is a link.

          If you're looking for long term strategies - you may want to focus your efforts on good/relevant links.

          Don't take what I say as gospel either - this stuff changes, so all I'm saying is look at your business model, consider what the places you want traffic from might care about and then bias your efforts appropriately.

          I'm sure in general the SEs aren't going to end up penalising your hundreds of 'profile' links, but if I was them I'd certainly end up discounting them or giving them less value than relevant ones - so I know where my focus would be.

          But you need to stop relying on other people to answer these questions for you and do what works within the context of your business and your style.

          Andy
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          nothing to see here.

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