Adsense Truth: Specifically For Newbies

16 years ago

One thing that most people don't count on when dealing with adsense is that it is really all about volume.....more traffic = more money. It is as simple as that. You can expect a CTR in the ballpark of 2-4%. Therefore, if you are getting 100 hits a day, then you should get 2-4 clicks. Now most people who have sites don't get that many hits and this is especially true for those who are just throwing up sites with PLR hoping to rake it in.

Another thing that most people don't realize is that making money with adsense is really about organic traffic....not the readership traffic that most bloggers are hoping to get.

High SE ranking for a high traffic word using adsense = money in the bank....

Whenever I read about someone complaining about adsense or not making money with adsense, I know that they aren't getting much traffic to their site.

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16 years ago

Originally Posted by Simon_Sezs

One thing that most people don't count on when dealing with adsense is that it is really all about volume.....more traffic = more money. It is as simple as that. You can expect a CTR in the ballpark of 2-4%.

Thanks for the reply.

I agree with everything you mentioned accept for
the 2-4% CTR (with good targetted content and placement a static site
should do much better).

However... it's always safe to plan for the minimum, so that's ok too.

- John

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Easy Cash

16 years ago

Well said John,

You have hit the nail on the head with this post.

It takes a long time to build it up the traffic.

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Easy Cash

16 years ago

Hey John,

Just another question for the newbies.

In your post you mention that you should add content to your site - 500 pages or so.

Others have said you should write heaps of articles and submit them to article directories.

You mention that you should only write 30 - 40.

What do you think is better - obviously you don't want the same article as your webpage.

I am thinking hundreds of articles is better as this is driving traffic to your site - where as if you have hundreds of webpages is not going to achieve much traffic. I guess it will organically overtime though.

What are your thoughts?

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dburk 16 years ago

Hi XFactor,

Yet another great post.

I believe this is the clearest and most concise post I have seen yet on how to approach content publishing for AdSense. You have a way of putting it into a no nonsense practical guide.

Thanks again, for sharing your excellent tips.
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- ScottieScott 16 years ago
  
  This is a great post. These are the things that I have gone through myself. I am not at the point where I want to creat my own products, nor am I to the point where I want to do affiliate marketing - although I have a couple of ideas forming.
  
  Adsense takes a long time to get started and the returns early on are minimal - but I still believe that even now after the low hanging fruit of years past Adsense income is gone, there is still a lot of money that can be made from Adsense.
  
  We will all go through the learning curve but the ones who have the faith and stick with it - learn all they can and modify their approach - and don't see failure as an option will reach their goals and make the money they want. All they need is the right formula. Once they have found what works, just repeat it as many times as necessary to reach your income goals.
  
  Adsense is hard work and if you buy into the hype that promoters of Adsense programs are peddling - you will be disappointed.
  
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  That is how I failed in earlier projects. Just giving up because I was financially being drained. I did not know who to turn to. It was hard to get people to open up about their strategies. Technology has changed all of this, though.
  
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16 years ago

Originally Posted by Easy Cash

Hey John,

Just another question for the newbies.

In your post you mention that you should add content to your site - 500 pages or so.

Others have said you should write heaps of articles and submit them to article directories.

You mention that you should only write 30 - 40.

What do you think is better - obviously you don't want the same article as your webpage.

Hi Easy,

I believe that you should never stop writing articles. I may have used numbers as
guidelines but in reality your sites should never stop growing, ever.

Right now I'm planning on getting 100 articles up on a new site I am making, then
I will send 100 unique articles to article directories. From there I will reduce the
article marketing.

I guess you could say that I would like all of my sites to have a minimum of 1,000
articles on them.

- John

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captivereef

16 years ago

I have thrown up a 40 page site with PLR for content and then over 3 weeks written 50 articles for article directory submission for those sites and started making $5 a day pretty quickly, and many of those sites have been around well over a year and still make money everyday.

Its a model that does not take to much work and can be easily implemented and multiplied by 10 or 20 sites you are making some great cash!

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Bishop81

16 years ago

I've actually read through the whole 10 page thread a couple times, and used parts of it to build out my strategy on my new site that I'm working on.

The main points that I took away:
-The competitive niches with higher earnings per click are best, even though there is so much competition
-Google default ad color is the best for getting clicks (I've heard this many times before, too)

There may have been more, but I can't think of it at the moment.

Anyway, thanks for all the tips that you've provided.

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16 years ago

Originally Posted by Bishop81

I've actually read through the whole 10 page thread a couple times, and used parts of it to build out my strategy on my new site that I'm working on.

The main points that I took away:
-The competitive niches with higher earnings per click are best, even though there is so much competition
-Google default ad color is the best for getting clicks (I've heard this many times before, too)

There may have been more, but I can't think of it at the moment.

Anyway, thanks for all the tips that you've provided.

Thanks for reading and enjoying the info, but are you sure you got that
info from my personal input?

Just to clear things up:

- I'm not a big fan of high paying niches
- I never use the default ad

You know, there needs to be a video to clear up any confusion on
my approach. I'll make one.

- John

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captivereef 16 years ago

I have never used the default ad either, better luck with the standard old blue link, black text black url. Red works well on some site to
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Bishop81

16 years ago

Originally Posted by XFactor

Thanks for reading and enjoying the info, but are you sure you got that
info from my personal input?

Just to clear things up:

- I'm not a big fan of high paying niches
- I never use the default ad

You know, there needs to be a video to clear up any confusion on
my approach. I'll make one.

- John

Ok, maybe not default ad, but you did say to use blue links, right?

And as for high paying niches... I must have added that on my own. I remember you saying that you used the health niche, and based on my experience, that should be a higher paying niche. I guess the main point that I got was that the competitive niches shouldn't be avoided, but embraced.

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16 years ago

Originally Posted by Bishop81

Ok, maybe not default ad, but you did say to use blue links, right?

And as for high paying niches... I must have added that on my own. I remember you saying that you used the health niche, and based on my experience, that should be a higher paying niche. I guess the main point that I got was that the competitive niches shouldn't be avoided, but embraced.

Yes I use blue links, but the default code has green URLs (at the bottom) and
it quite clashes with my site layout so I do not use it. It all depends on your site's colors though, and I've seen it look pretty good on a lot of sites.

About the health niche being a high paying niche, it's not when comparing it to the
typical "high paying niche" that is talked about like mortgage, credit, insurance, etc.

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Bishop81

16 years ago

Originally Posted by XFactor

About the health niche being a high paying niche, it's not when comparing it to the
typical "high paying niche" that is talked about like mortgage, credit, insurance, etc.

Heh, unless it's Mesothilioma.

People seem to think that one earns $100's per click.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by captivereef

I have thrown up a 40 page site with PLR for content and then over 3 weeks written 50 articles for article directory submission for those sites and started making $5 a day pretty quickly, and many of those sites have been around well over a year and still make money everyday.

Its a model that does not take to much work and can be easily implemented and multiplied by 10 or 20 sites you are making some great cash!

Would you be kind enough to tell us all the rest of the "secrets" necessary to make this work? I've put up 4 sites with 40 pages of original content each, followed suggestions of submitting to various places (so far got between 100 and 150 backlinks per site), done keyword research as defined by a method from this forum, but I make very few cents per day after 3 months of building these sites.

I am still trying to learn all the secrets that are not mentioned in the posts of these forums. I must admit that it's frustrating for a newbie reading how "easy" it is, following the instructions precisely and getting nothing like the results "promissed"!!!

Chris

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EquestrianGal

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Chris-

Would you be kind enough to tell us all the rest of the "secrets" necessary to make this work? I've put up 4 sites with 40 pages of original content each, followed suggestions of submitting to various places (so far got between 100 and 150 backlinks per site), done keyword research as defined by a method from this forum, but I make very few cents per day after 3 months of building these sites.

I am still trying to learn all the secrets that are not mentioned in the posts of these forums. I must admit that it's frustrating for a newbie reading how "easy" it is, following the instructions precisely and getting nothing like the results "promissed"!!!

Chris

I agree with the frustration. Many times you'll hear things are easy and they aren't! There is A LOT of effort involved. Just writing original content takes a ton of effort. Then dealing with the technical aspects of just setting up the site, figuring out the colors of how to get adsense to blend, creating templates for sites, knowing how to use wordpress and the which plug ins to use, and knowing how often to post articles to your site, where to post them, WHAT to post, how to build your site (wordpress or xcitepro). All of this is done while trying to make a buck or two and trying to find DECENT information of how to make money online without being sucked into another's affiliate system that makes THEM rich and just gives you the impression that if you follow their exact plan you'll be there too....

Then you try and try and you don't get the same results. You're told it's because you didn't do this or that right and to just keep trying and you'll eventually see results. But are you being told this because it's true or because someone wants to keep you on their list? ? ?

This all makes me wonder. Wouldn't the ones who are in the money be the ones who are learning all of the in's and outs and then putting the information out there for others? Make a forum with your knowledge on what you've learned from making money online (what works, what doesnt' work and why), make it free, then post your affiliate links. Eventually you're making some money. But is it off what you're teaching others to do or off what you're doing yourself?! Is this what everyone is really doing?

I started some blogging last year. My site only has about 80 articles on it. I promoted by posting in areas like yahoo answers and posting on some forums and facebook. Never did an Ezine article on it... although I meant to. Life just got busy with my day job so I stopped working on the site.
A year later, my site hasn't been touched in about 6 months, but it has 3,000 uniques a month.
HOWEVER my Adsense earnings? Pennies a week. Few clicks here and there and nothing to brag about.
My targeted keyword was a little over a dollar ECPC so usually the clicks around around 5-30 cents.
I had some affiliate things in there too but not a ton. This gave me one affiliate income which I made about $2.00.

What made me really wonder is if I had kept up with what I was doing and learning, I could have probably turned the site into a better money earner. OR I could learn from what works and what doesn't work and make a BETTER site.

Time is money too though... and I don't like to try methods unless I really TRUST the person teaching them or believe the results people say that they have had. To me, reading the forums and hearing multiple successes on a thread gives trust.
But then again I always question the "teacher's" intent. I want to hear about a method that WORKS and hear that the teacher is making money on THAT method... not making the majority of their cash off those who are subscribing to their teachings.

Just my two cents :-)

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pixelcrafter

16 years ago

Question For John:

Hi John,
i'm an internet freak whose passion in writting and would like to generate income from adsense. i'm very thankful that you share your adsense success tips.i've learn some adsense video and read some ebooks but nothing explain the real adsense like your article in this forum. I hope you don't mind answering my questions.

1. What is the programming language of your site? is it Html or PHP based? and why you use that languange?

2. How about your article it self, do you save it in txt or html or php extention?

3. When you have finished, writing your article, how do you get it online? do you have admin area in your web, which enable you to upload it automatically? or you manually upload it, and edit the link of the main page?

4. what do you mean by "unique article" which you upload to article directory?

5. What do you think about the idea of blending adsense with the article? so the ads may pop up in the middle of the article?

6. Honestly, the adsense analysis makes me confuse, (the analysis about cpc, kei, competition...etc) Would you mind give me the main idea, so i can choose the keyword that will generate dollars?

7. For instance, i want to write article on the base keyword of "wealth", such as: how to get rich by managing your income, financial education, setting up business,etc.
What should i analyze in order to have a rational consideration and confidence that this keyword will generate income for me and prove that my decision of using this keyword is right?

Thanks A Lot John.

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captivereef

16 years ago

i have health niches and mortgage/crediti niches the mortgage niche easily make $10 in about 5-6 clicks where it would take the health niches 75 or so clicks to make the same amount. I would rather be able to make more off less traffic. But you have to stay on top of promoting these types of sites. It works for me since i wa in mortgae financing for many years and know it well.

The only drawback to this niche is the mortgage niche has low CTRS for articles when compared to alot of other stuff.

Another niche that pays really good is exercise equipment like treadmills, rowing machines and elliptical trainers. Plus those articles have high CTRS if you offer tips

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16 years ago

Thanks for sharing the excellent tips, I appreciated what you're sharing!

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derekwong28

16 years ago

Having gone from a high of $4300 in Jul 2006 to $350 last month, I have more or less given up on Adsense. Luckily, adsense is now a very minor source of income for me.

I agree with most of Xfactor's observations. I would say Adsense is the easiest method for newbies to make pocket money but one of the toughest to make a full-time income.

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16 years ago

Originally Posted by derekwong28

Having gone from a high of $4300 in Jul 2005 to $350 last month, I have more or less given up on Adsense. Luckily, adsense is now a very minor source of income for me.

I agree with most of Xfactor's observations. I would say Adsense is the easiest method for newbies to make pocket money but one of the toughest to make a full-time income.

-Derek

Boy do I wish that I had taken advantage of the Adsense gold rushes of 2003-2005.

I hear stories all the time of how is was so easy to plaster up thousands of keywords
into software programs like traffic equalizer and literally make $15,000 - $20,000 per
month overnight with many sites.

I got in a little too late for that. Had a little success with similar programs but the
search engines got real smart by then.

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derekwong28

16 years ago

Yup John, you guessed correctly what I did. At that time, I had more than 20 million pages in Google. They were constructed by software with the help of 4 full time staff who were working for my e-commerce shop. Besides adsense, the pages also promoted affiliate products and so the total earnings were even higher.

When the initial results came in, I seriously thought I was going to make a million within a few months. But Google got smart quickly and so I was down to just over $1000 by November that year. Still it wasn't able to remove all the pages until May this year, and that is when my monthly earnings dropped below $1000.

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star007

16 years ago

derek,
Can you explain further. Did google ban your websites because you were using an content generator of some type? I'm not really familiar with "traffic equalizer". Thanks.
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derekwong28

16 years ago

Traffic equalizer was a program that generated lots of junk SEO-optimized pages after you gave it keyword. Google will ban the site quickly if it is detected. There were also more "proper" content generation programs such as Metawebs and Niche Portal Builder that will give you a proper looking site.

However I did not use these. I used Webmerge to build sites from datafeeds supplied by merchants. So the content was real but was supplied by the merchants. However, there are duplicate content issues involved and also the propensity of Google to downgrade affiliate sites. In my case, the size of the site grew too big too soon and that alerted Google. Still it took over 2 years for Google to de-index those pages entirely. They did not ban the whole site but only banned those pages.

I do not regret doing it as this project have earned several tens of thousands of dollars. However, there is no way I can repeat it because I no longer have the manpower available to do it. I still make a fair bit of money with Webmerge and I would heartily recommend this software. Webmerge is considered as a cornerstone software for many affiliates promoting physical products.

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16 years ago

Originally Posted by derekwong28

I do not regret doing it as this project have earned several tens of thousands of dollars. However, there is no way I can repeat it because I no longer have the manpower available to do it. I still make a fair bit of money with Webmerge and I would heartily recommend this software. Webmerge is considered as a cornerstone software for many affiliates promoting physical products.

Agreed.

In today's search engine going this route is not for the faint of heart.

Those that do, and make big money doing it today, know what they are doing,
have enormous resources, and are skilled in technical ways that I would never
have the time to learn.

- John

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tush

16 years ago

The competitive niches with higher earnings per click are best, even though there is so much competition

I believe this is a dangerous strategy. It will be very hard to win this niche. At the same time, a very rare niche is not good because you will not get enough traffic. For newbies, I think sitebuildit is a very good deal. It gives you chance to brainstorm your niche so that you get hundreds of key words to write about. It has the guideline that helps you to analyse your pages so that you know how to distribute these keywords in the content. As long as you follow their system, there is no way you will fail to create a content site that earns you adsence money...

I just have one question. Why concentrate on adsence only. Dr. ken says it is a dangerous strategy to put all your eggs in one basket. On those content sites, why not put adsense, affiliate programmes, refferal fees, consultancy.. etc. I believe you can achieve alot with a content website.

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pixelcrafter

16 years ago

Thanks John for the quick reply,

I have followed your advise to read all of the previous 10 pages.
Now, I've got some question. Hope you don't mind answering.

1. First, I'd like to ask about the topic keyword. Which one do you suggest:
writing about things that i've passion for or
writing about niche keyword that i've researched for ?

2. I am curious about niche keyword, what is the parameter that i could use to define a keyword is a niche keyword? (sound stupid but i want to know, sorry)

3. About the domain, if my content are business related,
which one you recommend, using a domain which contain "business" word or not?
for instance: businesswisdom.com or smartchoice.com

4. About your web content (in the 2nd page of the previous forum)
you describe that when your viewer landed on your article page, they only see...
So, your left navigation (which is the menu = dogs, cats, pigs..) is gone?
In other word, there also no hyperlink to home page?

5. Where do you put these (contact us, about us, privacy&policy) link?

6. Do you place your ads right underneath your headline or right underneath your picture
(which is on the lefthand side of your headline)?

7. I like your statement "More action & less thinking = good enough result for me".
Are you trying to say that i have to start right away....
just write a thousand article on a topic i have passion for (doesn't matter niche or not, no worries about the compettition, etc)
place ads. And see what happen then evaluate. Is that right?

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16 years ago

Originally Posted by pixelcrafter

Thanks John for the quick reply,

I have followed your advise to read all of the previous 10 pages.
Now, I've got some question. Hope you don't mind answering.

1. First, I'd like to ask about the topic keyword. Which one do you suggest:
writing about things that i've passion for or
writing about niche keyword that i've researched for ?

Both. First pick something you are interested in but make sure it is a topic
where advertisers are spending money.

2. I am curious about niche keyword, what is the parameter that i could use to define a keyword is a niche keyword? (sound stupid but i want to know, sorry)

Because there is no black and white answer to this question, you must learn to gauge
for yourself what keywords will relate to your niches. So what I suggest is that you
pick up any keyword tool and read through the materials they provide.
I like using Wordtracker and not only do they have PDFs to further explain keywords,
they also provide videos (great learning tools).

3. About the domain, if my content are business related,
which one you recommend, using a domain which contain "business" word or not?
for instance: businesswisdom.com or smartchoice.com

Either is fine. For Content only sites, any domain will do.

4. About your web content (in the 2nd page of the previous forum)
you describe that when your viewer landed on your article page, they only see...
So, your left navigation (which is the menu = dogs, cats, pigs..) is gone?
In other word, there also no hyperlink to home page?

I'm not sure I understand the question. However, not to self promote or anything
but in my sig is a video showing the basic outline of my sites.

5. Where do you put these (contact us, about us, privacy&policy) link?

Same answer as # 4 above.

6. Do you place your ads right underneath your headline or right underneath your picture (which is on the lefthand side of your headline)?

I've done both but am currently removing my pictures. Too risky.

7. I like your statement "More action & less thinking = good enough result for me".
Are you trying to say that i have to start right away....
just write a thousand article on a topic i have passion for (doesn't matter niche or not, no worries about the compettition, etc)
place ads. And see what happen then evaluate. Is that right?

Well yeah, but of course go about it with some know-how, like basic SEO, keywords
to use in your content, etc.

Thanks a lot John.

No problemo!

- John

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16 years ago

Originally Posted by tush

I believe this is a dangerous strategy. It will be very hard to win this niche. At the same time, a very rare niche is not good because you will not get enough traffic.

The only dangerous strategy is lack of confidence in what you are doing.

Tough niches, easy niches - it doesn't matter. If you put your mind to it, work
hard, and use common sense in terms of SEO, Adsense Placement & Content - then
there is no such thing as a "bad niche".

For newbies, I think sitebuildit is a very good deal. As long as you follow their system, there is no way you will fail to create a content site that earns you adsence money...

You just contradicted yourself. First you said that all competitive niches are dangerous
stategies and now you are saying that anyone can succeed so long as they use Site
Build It.

So which is it?

I'm not trying to pick on you or anything but your advice is skewed, and people read
these posts for help, not contradictions.

I just have one question. Why concentrate on adsence only. Dr. ken says it is a dangerous strategy to put all your eggs in one basket. On those content sites, why not put adsense, affiliate programmes, refferal fees, consultancy.. etc. I believe you can achieve alot with a content website.

Why would I want to follow what someone else says instead of going with what
I personally enjoy doing?

- John

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jimfurr

16 years ago

Hi John,

I wanted more info on your Adsense mentoring -
however the site seems to be down.

Have you filled up or just
not offering it anymore?

Jim ><>

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macchiavelli

16 years ago

This thread will soon become legendary hahah.
Seriously though, the tips in this thread alone makes me want to start again with adsense.
Unfortunatly I got banned 3 years ago for no apparant reason with $5000+ left unpaid

At times google can really upset a person!

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mrmcd

16 years ago

Good content, but why is no one talking about combining list building and Adsense? This way you can automate your Adsense income.

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prodozoan

16 years ago

John,

What is the directory structure you maintain for your articles on the website.
I see that you have hundreds of articles... do you link all the articles to your home page?

Ajith

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16 years ago

Originally Posted by prodozoan

John,

What is the directory structure you maintain for your articles on the website.
I see that you have hundreds of articles... do you link all the articles to your home page?

Ajith

I keep it very simple. If you watched my video you can see that I link all of
a particular subject's articles from that specific page.

For example my health niche has an acne section, so all articles about acne will
be linked from that main page.

I've got a section on exercise, so all of my articles on exercise are linked from that
main page.

If I was working on a more narrow niche, like my pet site, then I would still
have unique main pages, like pet food, dog training, kitten articles, etc.

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Originally Posted by mrmcd

Good content, but why is no one talking about combining list building and Adsense? This way you can automate your Adsense income.

Then talk! Start a thread my man.

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  John,
  Thank you for your contributions in the old forum as well as in the new one. This thread is ver encoraging and I agree with you 100% that if you like writing and enjoying doing it, AdSense seems like a good choice. You may be able to write for a living without waiting for approvals from you-never-know editors and you may get more royalties from G. Hats off to you Join!
  
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  Thank you. A fascinating thread - I've read most of the original 10 pages.
  
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fukadayoichi

16 years ago

hey , handsome ! i am newbie in google adsense , but i want to know how many post that i have make andthen can get approve from google adsense ?
thank you !!

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16 years ago

X-Factor.....

You know what really gets up my nose? No offense "some of the stuff you say, I totally agree with".. BUT please, don't put false info into these viewers minds about duplicate content.

Speaking as a SEO Professional, I can tell you first hand, having duplicate content on your site that was scraped from another site is going to harm you, which you imply, at least that's the impression I get, is NOT true!

Take Website Content Wizard, Instant Article Wizard, two tools I use a LOT, explain why that on all 590+ websites that have used this tool, continue to rank on the first page (most pages at least)...

Presuming you had SEO experience, you'd understand what duplication of content means and how it ranks pages...

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16 years ago

Originally Posted by askloz

X-Factor.....

You know what really gets up my nose? No offense "some of the stuff you say, I totally agree with".. BUT please, don't put false info into these viewers minds about duplicate content.

Speaking as a SEO Professional, I can tell you first hand, having duplicate content on your site that was scraped from another site is going to harm you, which you imply, at least that's the impression I get, is NOT true!

Take Website Content Wizard, Instant Article Wizard, two tools I use a LOT, explain why that on all 590+ websites that have used this tool, continue to rank on the first page (most pages at least)...

Presuming you had SEO experience, you'd understand what duplication of content means and how it ranks pages...

Hi Loz,

I will always be the first one to say that I may be wrong, about a lot of things,
and willing to learn more.

So instead of making a hit-and-run post on the subject, why don't you take some
time to explain how we can use PLR material or scraped articles and rank with them.

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16 years ago

I already have, there's so much duplicate stuff I have said on this forum, people just need to search for it.. no offense to the readers here, but it gets a little tiring having to repeat the same stuff I have said over and over again.. take seo elite forum (truth about forex.com - my user id) and keyword elite forum (ask me about .com - user id), i've clocked up over 1200 posts on each forum, most of the posts is the same stuff I've repeated over and over again, so forgive me not doing it here...

Other than that, if you want videos, sign up to video guide to profits.

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16 years ago

Hi John, Thanks for the quick reply.
i wanna ask you about google.

Let say i wanna create business related site
main keyword for the site = business,
which contain = smallbusiness, franchise, businessbook, etc.

I put each of them in seperate folder.
so the domain format is:

www.mydomain.com/smallbusiness
www.mydomain.com/franchise
www.mydomain.com/businessbook...etc

Can i register to google and say:
"please put your ads related to small business in the www.mydomain.com/smallbusiness "
"please put your ads related to franchise in the www.mydomain.com/franchise "

Or I have to register multiple account to do that?
or i have to buy more domain?

so, is it possible to have several site with several topics in only 1 google account?
How can i do that?

Thanks John

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Hi,

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16 years ago

Originally Posted by pixelcrafter

Hi John, Thanks for the quick reply.
i wanna ask you about google.

Let say i wanna create business related site
main keyword for the site = business,
which contain = smallbusiness, franchise, businessbook, etc.

I put each of them in seperate folder.
so the domain format is:

www.mydomain.com/smallbusiness
www.mydomain.com/franchise
www.mydomain.com/businessbook...etc

Can i register to google and say:
"please put your ads related to small business in the www.mydomain.com/smallbusiness "
"please put your ads related to franchise in the www.mydomain.com/franchise "

Or I have to register multiple account to do that?
or i have to buy more domain?

so, is it possible to have several site with several topics in only 1 google account?
How can i do that?

Thanks John

I'm not sure I understand your question, but it looks to me like you are asking
how your website's pages will show relevant ads, correct?

If so then you are over-thinking this. All you need is one Adsense account to
get started and the ads that show up on your individual pages will be heavily
influenced by the content on that page.

For example one page could be just about "home based businesses" and so long
as your content on that page is about the same subject, then the
Adsense ads served up will be close to that subject. Another page could be about
"financing a business" and the same ad relevancy should occur.

All you can really do is paste your Adsense code, create relevant content, and
see what ads are served up.

I personally stopped worrying about getting to much targeted ads. There are
lots of keywords out there that may not serve up relevant ads, but the keywords
themselves get great traffic and slim-to-none competing sites, so I'll take the
occasional click here and there just because of the traffic.

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Originally Posted by jimfurr

Hi John,

I wanted more info on your Adsense mentoring -
however the site seems to be down.

Have you filled up or just
not offering it anymore?

Jim ><>

Hi Jim,

Well around March or April of this year I thought about a way to create
something that could help people with Adsense. I did create a forum
but eventually there is just nothing more to talk about with this business
model.

I can help with keyword research and we can discuss tips but there is really
nothing much more than to just get to work.

The forum is still active and I still post, but I am not going to take on any
new members.

Hopefully it helped a few of those that participated but I found out that
there really is not a way to keep things excited for such a boring and simple
business.

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16 years ago

Originally Posted by pixelcrafter

Question For John:

Hi John,
i'm an internet freak whose passion in writting and would like to generate income from adsense. i'm very thankful that you share your adsense success tips.i've learn some adsense video and read some ebooks but nothing explain the real adsense like your article in this forum. I hope you don't mind answering my questions.

For starters, all of your answers below are explained in detail on the original
10-page thread in the other forum. Please visit that thread and read carefully.
The link is in this first post.

But I will give you the short versions below:

1. What is the programming language of your site? is it Html or PHP based? and why you use that languange?

It is HTML and I use it because that is what XsitePro uses. I use XsitePro.

2. How about your article it self, do you save it in txt or html or php extention?

HTML (XsitePro)

3. When you have finished, writing your article, how do you get it online? do you have admin area in your web, which enable you to upload it automatically? or you manually upload it, and edit the link of the main page?

I use XsitePro

4. what do you mean by "unique article" which you upload to article directory?

Unique, meaning not a copy of any other articles. All of my
articles are unique, for my sites and for article marketing.

5. What do you think about the idea of blending adsense with the article? so the ads may pop up in the middle of the article?

I still test this way, but nothing
beats putting one adsense block on top of the article (you can see my layout in
my signature).

6. Honestly, the adsense analysis makes me confuse, (the analysis about cpc, kei, competition...etc) Would you mind give me the main idea, so i can choose the keyword that will generate dollars?

It's not that simple. Choose a niche, get hundreds
of articles online, article market, do other backlink activities, continue... wait... it
will happen...

7. For instance, i want to write article on the base keyword of "wealth", such as: how to get rich by managing your income, financial education, setting up business,etc.
What should i analyze in order to have a rational consideration and confidence that this keyword will generate income for me and prove that my decision of using this keyword is right?

I don't overanalyze things like this. I write for all keyword stats. You never know
what will rank and provide you lots of traffic in time. I have fun with it - keywords
from all over the board.

Thanks A Lot John.

No problem, but seriously - go back and read the original thread. It will help.

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16 years ago

Hi X Factor, well, that sure is a bucket of ice cold water on what seemed to be a good idea. If adsense is a non starter as you say for the reasons given, then here's my question; I'm highly trained in several work areas, mid aged, and my health and ability to work has gone, I need to make an income from the internet or starve. If Adsense is a non starter then is there an online income creator that is recomended?
Anybody reading this, please chip in.
I'm not looking for the equivelant of selling pints of blood for immediate chump change, I need something that works and can grow.

And here's something I've noticed thats going to change, just like a couple of years ago when ebay listings cluttered any google search I did, now its article pages dominate anything I search for. Its already frustrating, like the ebay flood, I bet it won't be long before article marketing goes away too, then what do you have left to get traffic?

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16 years ago

Originally Posted by 105724

Hi X Factor, well, that sure is a bucket of ice cold water on what seemed to be a good idea. If adsense is a non starter as you say for the reasons given, then here's my question; I'm highly trained in several work areas, mid aged, and my health and ability to work has gone, I need to make an income from the internet or starve. If Adsense is a non starter then is there an online income creator that is recomended?

I never said Adsense was a non-starter. Please read my posts more carefully.

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16 years ago

John, thank you for the highly informative post and for not trying to sell us anything in the process.

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15 years ago

With the popularity of affiliate feeds, content duplication is a universal issue we all face.

A common strategy is to pull a feed into a DB tool like OpenOffice and modify the content there before exporting to whatever publishing tool you're using.

This may seem labor-instensive, and it is, but it guarantees that you'll have unique content that's far more readable than any of the automated text-munging tools available can produce.

Like anything else, it seems the secret to success with affiliate sites merely reinforces the timeless relationship between effort and reward.

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pixelcrafter

15 years ago

Hi John,

It's been nearly a year I'm learning Adsense.
Now, I'm starting to understand your point.

Kindly let me ask some questions:

Based on your statement (which I quoted below),

Let's say my site is getridofacne*c0m

1.
Do I have to write all of my blog content using the targeted keyword
(get rid of acne) ?
If so, I will have 500+ article in my blog with the same targeted keyword then ?

2.
Do I have to write all of the articles that I want to submit to ezinearticles
using the targeted keyword (get rid of acne) ?
If so, I will have 500+ article in the ezine with the same targeted keyword then ?

3.
I have read a thread about how to get the most of ezine articles.
It is said that, we can submit the SAME articles that have been accepted
by ezinearticles to the other top articles directory using different resource box.
Do you agree with it ?

4.
Based on your explanation,
do you really want to say that,
"If I want to earn money from adsense,
I have to write a lot of articles as the blog content and ezinearticles submission"
Correct ?

5.
Do you use any other method ?
such as social bookmarking, rss feed submission, blog&forum comment ?
How is it impact your business compare to the article writing (blog&ezine submission) ?

Kindly guide me.

Thanks a lot John.
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My point is that this is not an Adsense business, this is a traffic and content
business.

Originally Posted by XFactor

You Do Not Need More Adsense Ebooks

Ok, so there is nothing wrong with learning basic SEO, article marketing tips, etc.
but sooner or later you have to accept the fact that making money with Adsense
boils down to these basics:

1) Content created around keywords (with basic on-page SEO)
2) Backlink building with basic off-page SEO.

That's it, really! Show me someone who knows nothing more than that, puts 500+
original articles on his site, plus several hundred articles posted in directories
(also niche forum backlinks, social bookmarking, etc), then that person is probably
looking at $50 - $100 per day in Adsense.

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tin tin 15 years ago

What a great post by xfactor. This is a true eyeopener. Thanks xfactor. I also agree with tush that while you are doing the adsense you better do something else like affiliate marketing that will bring in some cash.
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14 years ago

Why didn't you say all this in your ebook and not have all the "newbies" running round like headless chickens trying to make a fortune from a failing method?

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willard 14 years ago

In my opinion and this maybe pretty basic, because to me internet marketing like the rest of the world is pretty basic.
The key to AdSense is to things one being traffic and the other being quality. The more traffic you get to your site the more AdSense revenue you will get. The better content quality site you have will attract visitors, this takes time and is incremental in my opinion.
Like I said kind a basic.
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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Intrepreneur

Why didn't you say all this in your ebook and not have all the "newbies" running round like headless chickens trying to make a fortune from a failing method?

No one ever said it's a failing methos, especially not Xfactor.
it's certainly not a get rich quick scheme, it requires work, and it does work.
It's working for me for instance

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Craig McPherson 14 years ago

I wanted to chime in here and report on how I am gong with this method and perhaps some of you can take something away from it. There has been, and still is, a lot of hype regarding the xfactor/clickbump methods of making decent Adsense money and from my point of view it is warranted.

One point to keep in mind is that both John and Scott's methods are vastly different. They use different templates, different methods of getting ranked etc so when I see people saying that this does not work I wonder if they are using the methods 100% as instructed.

As Scott (clickbump) says, the layout of your site has heaps to do with getting ranked. Slow loading sites will not get the ranking it deserves so if you aren't using one of their templates, don't expect to get the results they say you will get.

I began seriously pushing the niche sites around mid November '09, say 4 months ago, and have been adding sites over that time. Right now I have 13 active sites but I believe you have to give a site 3 months to settle down in the SE's to get correct data.

With that being said, only 4 of my sites are aged over 3 months and I will give a breakdown of site1 here, my best performed.

Site 1: When I started my keyword research I took the munbers that Market Samurai gave me as gospel. I had no reason to doubt them. This site's main keyword gets 1332 exact searches per day and MS says I should expect to get 559 of those searches per day if I am the #1 ranked website.

I have just finished getting the figures and site1 has been online for 108 days. It has been ranked #1 for over 2 months(10 weeks actually). It also has an indented placement so you could say I have #'s 1 and 2.

My average number of visitors per day is, wait for it, ... 18. Obviously a long way off the 559 they estimated I would get. Maybe it has to do with my title and description not being enticing enough but still, I would have thought I would get a few more.

Thanks to a handy CTR this site averages $1.36 per day. The average earn per click is 29 cents and I average 4.6 clicks on ads a day.

So what do these stats tell us? Well, plenty to be honest.

This site has 4 pages of content plus the usual privacy,contact and disclaimer etc. I do not know which pages have been getting the clicks as they share the same adsense block but I am assuming each page gets an even spread of visitors. My web stats tell me I have had visitors for 124 different search terms spread out over the 4 keyword phrases I am targeting.

What does it all mean? Well, common sense, logic and my stats tell me that each page on the site earns 30 cents a day. Put up 1 more page of content and I just gave myself a 30cent a day pay rise. Put up 10 more pages and 3 bucks a day extra is mine.

Do this across all my sites and it is significant coin.

One of my sites is only 42 days old, has a crappy CTR but it pays me $1.36 a click. This site only averages 1 click a day right now so adding 1 more page to it adds $1.36 to my account once I tweak it to raise the CTR.

You see folks, this will work if you work it. I will leave you with this thought.

Ezinearticles gets 1,000's and 1,000's of visitors per day. They could put banners on their site selling "how to grow African Artichokes" and make a mint because of the sheer volume of visitors they get but they don't. They have Adsense all over the site. Why? Because it works.
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15 years ago

pixelcrafter

1 - No. I also use LSI phrases and many many variations of long-tailed keyword phrases.
2 - No. Same #1
3 - I do that. Its an accepted process.
4 - If you want traffic you do.
5 - IMHO, social marketing does little to get traffic for me.

I rely on organic traffic with a BUNCH of keywords that are backlinked to my site. Its not done over night and does take time but it works. My article generation is restricted to EZA and the other top 3.

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15 years ago

Hi SiteBlaster,

Thank you for sharing your ideas with me.
Let me ask you some questions.

Let's use the getridofacne*c0m again.

1.
If you use the LSI phrases, it means, you will target more than 1 keyword.
Am I correct ?
In contast, my domain is targeting "get rid of acne" keyword.

I presume that, since I target that particular niche keyword
( "get rid of acne"), so I must optimized that keyword to get maximum adsense earning.

So, It is OK if we target other keyword ?
I don't really get the idea, please explain.

2.
How many LSI phrases you target for a main keyword ?

3.
How may blog post articles you write for each keyword?

4.
How many articles you submit to ezine for each keyword?

5.
How do you write your resource box?
Do you hyperlink the anchor text only to the homepage or
to 1 page on each targeted keyword ?
or even, to every page of your blog articles ?

Thank you SiteBlaster.
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pixelcrafter

1 - No. I also use LSI phrases and many many variations of long-tailed keyword phrases.
2 - No. Same #1

Originally Posted by SiteBlaster

3 - I do that. Its an accepted process.
4 - If you want traffic you do.
5 - IMHO, social marketing does little to get traffic for me.

I rely on organic traffic with a BUNCH of keywords that are backlinked to my site. Its not done over night and does take time but it works. My article generation is restricted to EZA and the other top 3.

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Kindly help me answering my questions.
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Rully

15 years ago

XFactor,thanks for this thread :-D . I have 9 static website and 1 blog that contain of google adsense. And my problem is TRAFFIC ?:-D . So this thread very inspirational for me. Also thanks for sharing warriors. God bless this forum :-)

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15 years ago

Thanks XFactor for this very educative post, and the other ones as well. I am following your advice by action and I am commited to achieve my target goal.

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15 years ago

very good points.. IMO many newbies tend to think this is a get rich quick business and that people are making tons of money with little investments right away, which couldn't be further from the truth for most cases

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Cataleya 14 years ago

I was wondering, while following xfactor`s plan when doing a keyword research should I look at local or global search count? I have micro niche finder.
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  I was wondering, while following xfactor`s plan when doing a keyword research should I look at local or global search count? I have micro niche finder.
  
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14 years ago

Originally Posted by XFactor

sooner or later you have to accept the fact that making money with Adsense boils down to these basics:

1) Content created around keywords (with basic on-page SEO)
2) Backlink building with basic off-page SEO.

That's it, really! Show me someone who knows nothing more than that, puts 500+
original articles on his site, plus several hundred articles posted in directories
(also niche forum backlinks, social bookmarking, etc), then that person is probably
looking at $50 - $100 per day in Adsense.

That's EXTREMELY far from correct. I have been doing what you say above, and it does NOT work in practice.

I followed an exact AdSense method posted on this forum, and have been doing it for 3 months now . . . followed the suggested keyword research (high-CPC keywords, 2400 searches per month, less than 40,000 competition), I've written about 200 original articles following the guidelines (spread over 4 sites), submitted to a variety of places as recommended (Digg, Stumble, EZA, UAW), plus got additional some backlinks from forums and blogs, and I'm not even making 50 cents a day. So it's most definitely NOT that simple. The main failing is that doing what's said above gets very little traffic (my CTR and payouts are reasonable).

So your data above is INCORRECT. I AM someone who can do all you say above, and in practice it does NOT work as you describe, not even close.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Chris-

That's EXTREMELY far from correct. I have been doing what you say above, and it does NOT work in practice.

I followed an exact AdSense method posted on this forum, and have been doing it for 3 months now . . . followed the suggested keyword research (high-CPC keywords, 2400 searches per month, less than 40,000 competition), I've written about 200 original articles following the guidelines (spread over 4 sites), submitted to a variety of places as recommended (Digg, Stumble, EZA, UAW), plus got additional some backlinks from forums and blogs, and I'm not even making 50 cents a day. So it's most definitely NOT that simple. The main failing is that doing what's said above gets very little traffic (my CTR and payouts are reasonable).

So your data above is INCORRECT. I AM someone who can do all you say above, and in practice it does NOT work as you describe, not even close.

Chris-

Hi Chris,

I understand that you have not had the success that had hoped for, but I can't agree with your apparent conclusion about what are essential basics. Just because you know what the basics are and you can apply them doesn't guarantee your success.

To use an analogy, If a coach teaching a runner how to run a marathon, gives you the basics, it doesn't mean that you will win or even place in your first race. You must practice, drill and build your skills over time before you become competitive enough to win some races.

If you have chosen your keywords well, there will be significant traffic once you have won the rankings "race". But if you haven't yet reached a "win, place or show" position, there will be no trophies for you. The basics are the basics and you must master them before you can develop your skill set to reach the level of expert. By your own admission, you are not there yet.

The key to AdSense earnings is abundant, well targeted traffic. If you aren't receiving this traffic yet, then you have not yet achieved high enough rankings for the proper keywords. How many #1 positions do you hold? You can't quit a race before you reach the finish line and expect a trophy, you must earn it. You are in a competition and simply executing the basics will not do, you must excel at the basics, outperforming your competition before you will earn a reward.

In the world of marketing the trophies are reserved for the winners, you can't apply Marxist ideology to Free Enterprise, there is no income redistribution, winner takes all.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by dburk

Hi Chris,

I understand that you have not had the success that had hoped for, but I can't agree with your apparent conclusion about what are essential basics. Just because you know what the basics are and you can apply them doesn't guarantee your success.

Yes, that's exactly the point of my comment!!!

X-factor said, about his "basics", "That's it, really! Show me someone who knows nothing more than that". NOTHING MORE THAN THAT. So you, like me, are saying that one needs to know a LOT more than that!!! You are agreeing with me, and dissagreeing with X-factor

It's not ME that's saying that these basics are ALL you need to know, it's X-factor (and a LOT of the other "guru's" around here). I KNOW that you need to know a LOT more than that, as you say.

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bcmwp 14 years ago

I can give an example of this: the EMD debate. Having the exact domain name can get you on page one or two very quickly, but not having it (in theory) shouldn't hurt you in the long run.

The problem for new people is that, since it takes at least a month or so to compensate for not having EMD, it takes a month or so to really learn lessons from those sites. In the meantime, they're making the same mistakes. Having EMD gives them a chance to see how well they've done in terms of evaluating the front page, doing onpage seo, etc.

So, it's probably better to do EMD at first, just to learn the ins and outs. In the long run, though, it's not the best strategy, because you don't use a lot of keywords that could be really profitable.

It's not really a "quick fix" thing. It's a matter of how to best learn. Without using EMD, newcomers need to rely completely on other people's word, because they can't see the effects in action.
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dburk

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Chris-

Yes, that's exactly the point of my comment!!!

X-factor said, about his "basics", "That's it, really! Show me someone who knows nothing more than that". NOTHING MORE THAN THAT. So you, like me, are saying that one needs to know a LOT more than that!!! You are agreeing with me, and dissagreeing with X-factor

It's not ME that's saying that these basics are ALL you need to know, it's X-factor (and a LOT of the other "guru's" around here). I KNOW that you need to know a LOT more than that, as you say.

Chris

Hi Chris,

John gave you the basic recipe, it's up to you to make sure you have quality ingredients and that you are following the instructions to the letter. Yes, there is much more you can learn that will get you there quicker and with less effort. The point I was trying to make is that you have either not done enough of the basics, or perhaps you have misunderstood certain terminology.

Your problem seems to be centered on lack of traffic, which means you either are not ranking for your target keywords (do more promoting) or you have chosen the wrong keywords (learn how to use a decent keyword tool).

Personally, I believe that John's method of keyword research could be improved, but it means more work on your part, but a bigger payoff potential. Specifically I do not find John's method of measuring strength of completion particularly effective. It is easy though. The only downside is that you may have stronger competition than you bargained for, but more promotional effort will overcome that.

You seem to be on the right path, you just haven gone far enough down that path. You should also assume that it is something you are doing wrong or ineffectively. I have read John's magnificent thread where he goes into great detail about his methods. Everything you need to know is in there.

Don't assume that familiarity with industry terms means that you truly understand them. Some things you must learn by doing and figuring out on your own if you are just not getting it right.

I see that John is helping you out by looking into your specific situation, I'm sure he will spot your issues, but if not, come back here and start a thread and I, or someone else here will help you find the right path.

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TammieJJ 14 years ago

I have purchased John's book, and read his $300/day thread, as well. John shares a lot of excellent information and gives readers a basic blueprint for making money with adsense.

Many people have had success following his method, as well as that of Clickbump, whose thread is also in this forum.

I personally took John's course, integrated some of his information in with my own business plan, and can honestly say that I have seen a substantial increase in adsense earnings for my sites. This is largely because of the information that was shared in the course and the thread.

The main thing that I would suggest to anyone, following any thread, method, or plan, is simply this, adapt what you learn to your own business plan, and use it to further your own business. That's what makes for a successful internet marketer. You find what works for you and expand on that.
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14 years ago

Originally Posted by dburk

Hi Chris,

John gave you the basic recipe, it's up to you to make sure you have quality ingredients and that you are following the instructions to the letter. Yes, there is much more you can learn that will get you there quicker and with less effort. The point I was trying to make is that you have either not done enough of the basics, or perhaps you have misunderstood certain terminology.

Your problem seems to be centered on lack of traffic, which means you either are not ranking for your target keywords (do more promoting) or you have chosen the wrong keywords (learn how to use a decent keyword tool).

Personally, I believe that John's method of keyword research could be improved, but it means more work on your part, but a bigger payoff potential. Specifically I do not find John's method of measuring strength of completion particularly effective. It is easy though. The only downside is that you may have stronger competition than you bargained for, but more promotional effort will overcome that.

You seem to be on the right path, you just haven gone far enough down that path. You should also assume that it is something you are doing wrong or ineffectively. I have read John's magnificent thread where he goes into great detail about his methods. Everything you need to know is in there.

Don't assume that familiarity with industry terms means that you truly understand them. Some things you must learn by doing and figuring out on your own if you are just not getting it right.

I see that John is helping you out by looking into your specific situation, I'm sure he will spot your issues, but if not, come back here and start a thread and I, or someone else here will help you find the right path.

Thanks for your comments.

I am currently testing the ClickBump method (I've not tried X-factors method).

Chris-

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by makesitesnotbombs

Owned, would love to see John's reply.

I would be the second one to say that John does not reveal everything he do to make his claimed $900/day from AdSense earning. but hey, that's actually a good thing. The rich gets richer, rule of the world.

As countless people have said before me, it takes patience and practice. All people like Xfactor and Clickbump can do is show us the basics. In order to succeed you need to have the patience to develop your own spin on things and test different techniques out.

People do not understand that there is much more to developing an adsense business than simply getting approved for adsense, finding a keyword with a set amount of searches per month with how ever much competition, and launching a wordpress template.

Techniques like properly gauging competition, deciding whether a keyword is marketable or not, despite how many searches it gets, a decent lay out for your own sites that do not fit into the cookie cutter approach that 75% of the other adsense sites exhibit, etc; these are all things you develop over time and with practice by testing different things.

EVERY person I have read about on here who has been successfully scaling their adsense business has been working at it for at least 6 months.

However, it is human nature to get impatient when site #1 or 2 does not rank in the top 10 within the first week and earn $50/day right out of the gate. As a result, many people complain about it not working and ultimately look toward an easy way out, like black hat "easy link building" that will eventually get their adsense account banned, or they will simply give up. I guess that is why as you stated, "the rich get richer".
My favorite however is 1% of the people online earn 99% of the money.

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Lee Wilson

14 years ago

Originally Posted by makesitesnotbombs

Owned, would love to see John's reply.

I would be the second one to say that John does not reveal everything he do to make his claimed $900/day from AdSense earning. but hey, that's actually a good thing. The rich gets richer, rule of the world.

This attitude will never work for you. There is no blueprint on the planet that works by pure replication. If that EVER happens then it won't be for sale because they'd be able to write a script and create money on tap. You've got the method, now you have to make it work, and for what it's worth, I have never bought the xfactor method and don't even know what it is other than it's an adsense model. ALL business works on the same principle, stop looking for one click answers and start putting your effort into that principle, when you figure that out, pretty much every method works.

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Lee Wilson

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Chris-

That's EXTREMELY far from correct. I have been doing what you say above, and it does NOT work in practice.

I followed an exact AdSense method posted on this forum, and have been doing it for 3 months now . . . followed the suggested keyword research (high-CPC keywords, 2400 searches per month, less than 40,000 competition), I've written about 200 original articles following the guidelines (spread over 4 sites), submitted to a variety of places as recommended (Digg, Stumble, EZA, UAW), plus got additional some backlinks from forums and blogs, and I'm not even making 50 cents a day. So it's most definitely NOT that simple. The main failing is that doing what's said above gets very little traffic (my CTR and payouts are reasonable).

So your data above is INCORRECT. I AM someone who can do all you say above, and in practice it does NOT work as you describe, not even close.

Chris-

This thread is 18 months old so you can't quote someone on what worked then still works now. Having said that, the only thing wrong in his statement is that ANYONE can do it. What it should say is anyone can do it if they put the same amount of effort into figuring out why it isn't working. Adsense isn't as easy as it used to be but you can still earn good money at it, you have to be persistent.

Just to give you an idea of how things sometimes pan out. I have a few sites all in the same niche. I have one with seven pages of content, hardly any backlinks, no articles, pretty much nothing going for it other than the keyword in the domain and get about 2k uniques per month. This site gets me about $100 - $200 per month, some adsense, some amazon and one affiliate link.

The other extreme of that, in the exact same niche I have a site with 450+ pages, 30k uniques per month and nothing I have ever tried can make that site convert. It just happens. Some sites atract buyers, some don't. Bear in mind, both them sites are in the same niche. This is why persistence is everyting. One more thing, that first site took me quite a while to figure out what would turn the visitors to money, the first 50 or so things I tried did not convert.

Either figure out exactly what your visitors are looking for and throw it at them or give that one up and move on. Sometimes it just doesn't work out as you hoped.

Lee

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Chris-

That's EXTREMELY far from correct. I have been doing what you say above, and it does NOT work in practice.

I followed an exact AdSense method posted on this forum, and have been doing it for 3 months now . . . followed the suggested keyword research (high-CPC keywords, 2400 searches per month, less than 40,000 competition), I've written about 200 original articles following the guidelines (spread over 4 sites), submitted to a variety of places as recommended (Digg, Stumble, EZA, UAW), plus got additional some backlinks from forums and blogs, and I'm not even making 50 cents a day. So it's most definitely NOT that simple. The main failing is that doing what's said above gets very little traffic (my CTR and payouts are reasonable).

So your data above is INCORRECT. I AM someone who can do all you say above, and in practice it does NOT work as you describe, not even close.

Chris-

Hello Chris,

You sure did put a lot of work into this. And although nobody can guarantee
your success, I'd be happy to give you an honest breakdown of your work
on this project and what may the problem with only earning .50 per day.

I do personal consulting all of the time so there is no fear of me copying
your niches or anything like that.

So if you are telling the truth about what you have put into this, then please
send me the following:

1) Your website URLs.

2) Your target keyword(s) - and the stats you used to get
your numbers (2400, 40,000 & CPC).

3) Links to the 200 articles you wrote for this niche.

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Craig McPherson

14 years ago

Originally Posted by XFactor

3) Links to the 200 articles you wrote for this niche.

- John

This'll be interesting.

Also, earlier Chris said

Originally Posted by Chris-

That's EXTREMELY far from correct. I have been doing what you say above, and it does NOT work in practice.

What Chris meant to say was that it does NOT work in practice FOR ME

I have followed John's ideas since mid Nov and have done very well.
Thanks again John for sharing.

Craig

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Chris-

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Craig McPherson

What Chris meant to say was that it does NOT work in practice FOR ME

I have followed John's ideas since mid Nov and have done very well.
Thanks again John for sharing.

Craig

I understand what you're saying, but I find misinterpretations in what you say. What I was saying doesn't work in practice is X-Factor saying that the 2 basics he posted at the beginning of this thread are ALL you need. He didn't say his method, as posted elsewhere, with many more details is all you need. He said the basics and 500 articles will get you at least $50 a day. So that specifically does NOT include his other data in other threads, or other data that different people might add to those basics. He said THOSE BASICS are ALL YOU NEED.

So you saying that his method as posted elsewhere, works, and that different people get different results from his method, might both be correct, but your comments are about something different from the quote I was commenting about.

Chris

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firstdandy

14 years ago

Thanks for sharing the tips with us. Actually just my own opinion Adsense is really just 3 parts. Keyword research, Writing quality content, do backlinking to bring our SERP to first page.

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KeNiQ

14 years ago

I was wondering if you could tell me what it is I can improve with one of my sites.

I admit 1st!

1. I don't have your ebook as of yet and I plan on getting it.

2. I did target a high end paying non product niche but I am a patient person and I know it will take work for me to rank which again I have no problem with.

3.I'm not using your template or any templates similar to yours but I do plan on doing so in the future.

What my issue is i have target mortgage niche but i have found some low comp keywords believe it or not.

My comp have page ranks of 0-2 and have been around 5/mo -1 year. I figure heck I can beat these guys.

What I'm noticing is they have quite large amount of backlinks.

Now I don't mind writing and I can outsource to fam and friends to get more articles.

What I have been doing is creating a page every coupe of days and then pushing out 3-4 articles to 3-5 article directories Ezine go articles and some others.

What should I do from here to move up in the rankings I really would like my mortgage site to be no more than 5-7 pages of unique content (without the privacy, about us etc pages)

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Fraggler

14 years ago

Chris, your sites still are pretty new. If you have done what you have claimed and the competition analysis was on target then you will start to see rapid improvements over the next few months.

Where are your sites ranking currently? You can't measure the success of a keyword until it starts getting traffic. It won't start getting traffic until it is on the first page. If your sites aren't on page 1 then you need to find out why. Is it due to too much competition or too little backlinks?

One of the most important parts of anything to do with internet marketing is to be very critical of your own work. You need to learn how to intepret what is working and what's not. This why many people are failing with the adsense methods on this forum. People follow the instructions but don't know how to measure their process/success. They only look at the dollars in their adsense account and get put off.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Fraggler

Chris, your sites still are pretty new. If you have done what you have claimed and the competition analysis was on target then you will start to see rapid improvements over the next few months.

Where are your sites ranking currently? You can't measure the success of a keyword until it starts getting traffic. It won't start getting traffic until it is on the first page. If your sites aren't on page 1 then you need to find out why. Is it due to too much competition or too little backlinks?

One of the most important parts of anything to do with internet marketing is to be very critical of your own work. You need to learn how to intepret what is working and what's not. This why many people are failing with the adsense methods on this forum. People follow the instructions but don't know how to measure their process/success. They only look at the dollars in their adsense account and get put off.

Thanks for your comments, I see what you're saying.

The method I followed (which was not X-factor's nor Clickbumps) for the sites I started 3 months ago seems very unrealistic . . . the competition on the 1st page has typically 5000 backlinks . . . from each UAW submission I did 2.5 months ago I've only got about 10 backlinks, so getting more than 5000 backlinks per page seems very unrealistic for me. So I've given up on that method for the moment.

More recently I've read ClickBumps method, and started testing that. My first site went in at #14 and in a day moved up to #13 but has stayed there for a week. Still, that is not too far off the first page, and it will take a few sites to see if I can get a percentage of them on the first page, and at least the relatively small amount of effort required for ClickBump's method seems far more realistic for the results it might obtain.

So I'm getting closer, as I learn more

Chris

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Fraggler

14 years ago

5000 backlinks per page is way too many to target when you are still learning the ropes. It is achievable and it is possible that the 5000 links are mostly rubbish but to get fast results to build up your confidence you need to look elsewhere.

I will assume you are using market samurai but you can replace it with other tools that offer easy access to the same data. For an easy to attack keyword you should be looking for a top 10 dominated by pages with PR0 to 3, backlinks to the page of 10 or less, and basic on-site SEO for the keyword neglected. If you see a site with a large number of backlinks but a low PR, it means that the links to the site are poor. Don't let that put you off if it is surrounded by pages with the low backlinks.

Forget about domain age, cache, dmoz links, yahoo directory links etc. As you research keep an eye out for new domains that have very little backlinking and have a quick browse of the site. If it is a thin site then you know that keyword is a piece of cake to get into the top 10 for.

Here is an analysis of a word I would go for based on its SEO analysis. (This was taken from a user who has been banned from the site so use it if you wish hehe).

Red Bottom Shoes - Market Samurai Analysis.

I doubt you would beat the official site for the product but the others are very easy to beat. I am not going to say a microsite of just 1 page would beat it but a site with a few pages about the product should. It will need backlinks though. I usually look for less on-site too (less yellow and red).

You need to analyse the top 10 to find out when the domains with more links are getting beaten by the new sites with no links. That means these large sites have most likely a poor backlinking profile for that keyword. You should also pick-up that a large number of links to the domain (not page) doesn't make a site hard to beat. It means that site can add a new page and easily dominate other poor competition. Amazon is a good example of this. They are always in the top 10 due to the links to their domain but a properly seo'd page can beat it easily for its keyword. You will pick up these patterns if you take note, either mental or written, of the patterns you are seeing.

This type of experience can't be taught and it is probably something that gets overlooked by the ebook authors because it becomes 2nd nature.

I also can't stress how important it is to be patient. Keep the backlink building consistent, the pages will jump up over time.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Fraggler

5000 backlinks per page is way too many to target when you are still learning the ropes. It is achievable and it is possible that the 5000 links are mostly rubbish but to get fast results to build up your confidence you need to look elsewhere.

I will assume you are using market samurai but you can replace it with other tools that offer easy access to the same data. For an easy to attack keyword you should be looking for a top 10 dominated by pages with PR0 to 3, backlinks to the page of 10 or less, and basic on-site SEO for the keyword neglected. If you see a site with a large number of backlinks but a low PR, it means that the links to the site are poor. Don't let that put you off if it is surrounded by pages with the low backlinks.

Forget about domain age, cache, dmoz links, yahoo directory links etc. As you research keep an eye out for new domains that have very little backlinking and have a quick browse of the site. If it is a thin site then you know that keyword is a piece of cake to get into the top 10 for.

Here is an analysis of a word I would go for based on its SEO analysis. (This was taken from a user who has been banned from the site so use it if you wish hehe).

Red Bottom Shoes - Market Samurai Analysis.

I doubt you would beat the official site for the product but the others are very easy to beat. I am not going to say a microsite of just 1 page would beat it but a site with a few pages about the product should. It will need backlinks though. I usually look for less on-site too (less yellow and red).

You need to analyse the top 10 to find out when the domains with more links are getting beaten by the new sites with no links. That means these large sites have most likely a poor backlinking profile for that keyword. You should also pick-up that a large number of links to the domain (not page) doesn't make a site hard to beat. It means that site can add a new page and easily dominate other poor competition. Amazon is a good example of this. They are always in the top 10 due to the links to their domain but a properly seo'd page can beat it easily for its keyword. You will pick up these patterns if you take note, either mental or written, of the patterns you are seeing.

This type of experience can't be taught and it is probably something that gets overlooked by the ebook authors because it becomes 2nd nature.

I also can't stress how important it is to be patient. Keep the backlink building consistent, the pages will jump up over time.

Thanks very much for your comments.

I understand what you're saying, and am gradually learning!

Chris

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Magpieguy 14 years ago

I know I'm jumping the gun here as I need to start with even 1 backlink but how many backlinks is too many. Is there a good automated backlink builder out there at a reasonable price?
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ormes21

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Fraggler

5000 backlinks per page is way too many to target when you are still learning the ropes. It is achievable and it is possible that the 5000 links are mostly rubbish but to get fast results to build up your confidence you need to look elsewhere.

I will assume you are using market samurai but you can replace it with other tools that offer easy access to the same data. For an easy to attack keyword you should be looking for a top 10 dominated by pages with PR0 to 3, backlinks to the page of 10 or less, and basic on-site SEO for the keyword neglected. If you see a site with a large number of backlinks but a low PR, it means that the links to the site are poor. Don't let that put you off if it is surrounded by pages with the low backlinks.

Forget about domain age, cache, dmoz links, yahoo directory links etc. As you research keep an eye out for new domains that have very little backlinking and have a quick browse of the site. If it is a thin site then you know that keyword is a piece of cake to get into the top 10 for.

Here is an analysis of a word I would go for based on its SEO analysis. (This was taken from a user who has been banned from the site so use it if you wish hehe).

Red Bottom Shoes - Market Samurai Analysis.

I doubt you would beat the official site for the product but the others are very easy to beat. I am not going to say a microsite of just 1 page would beat it but a site with a few pages about the product should. It will need backlinks though. I usually look for less on-site too (less yellow and red).

You need to analyse the top 10 to find out when the domains with more links are getting beaten by the new sites with no links. That means these large sites have most likely a poor backlinking profile for that keyword. You should also pick-up that a large number of links to the domain (not page) doesn't make a site hard to beat. It means that site can add a new page and easily dominate other poor competition. Amazon is a good example of this. They are always in the top 10 due to the links to their domain but a properly seo'd page can beat it easily for its keyword. You will pick up these patterns if you take note, either mental or written, of the patterns you are seeing.

This type of experience can't be taught and it is probably something that gets overlooked by the ebook authors because it becomes 2nd nature.

I also can't stress how important it is to be patient. Keep the backlink building consistent, the pages will jump up over time.

Thanks for explaining this, I purchased market samurai last week and its great. The biggest part I have trouble with is analysing what you just covered about the SEO Competition module. Everything you said is what I thought but I was not 100% confident to go ahead with the keyword. Things such as domain age and the amount of incoming links to the site made me wonder if I could beat the page with no BL.

This has not scared me off testing though, I have specifically gone after some keywords where amazon ranks in the top three but has no BL and no on page optimisation...also the rest of the competition in the top 10 is similar I might add.

The only thing that has stopped me from registering some keywords is, I might find a great keyword and when I go to register it the domain is taken for .com/.net and .org. I check these sites out and start laughing when two of them are xfactor sites. But they are not ranking in the top 10 results, I check the domains in market samurai and some even have over 50 BL to the domain...So I wonder why they have not ranked when the competition seemed low.

Either way I do not go after them keywords. I started my adsense campaign on monday and I am putting up my third site today, which will be my last site for this week. I thought I could easily set up one site a day...nope! Today I have had to write over 20 articles. I want each page on a site to have more than 10 BL pointing at it, set and forget then add more articles if necessary when I look over the site.

One question I have is about the rule for using exact match selected during keyword research and not broad or phrase selected. I have purchased some great ebooks in the past and they used examples of searching with broad match selected and claim to earn $$.

To me it makes sense to use exact because you know exactly what to expect but what I wanted to ask is what do you guys use? Do you swear by having exact selected when searching for keywords or do you use broad match?

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Fraggler

14 years ago

Originally Posted by ormes21

One question I have is about the rule for using exact match selected during keyword research and not broad or phrase selected. I have purchased some great ebooks in the past and they used examples of searching with broad match selected and claim to earn $$.

To me it makes sense to use exact because you know exactly what to expect but what I wanted to ask is what do you guys use? Do you swear by having exact selected when searching for keywords or do you use broad match?

I use Broad Match to determine my categories (or sites content if you are going for smaller sites). I know that if the broad match is huge there will be a heap of keywords within that broard keyword. If the broad match has low competition then there is a high chance that the long tails will be even easier.

I use exact match for my actual pages/posts.

When I find a broad keyword with a lot of searches I check the SEO. If the competition is weak I then do a Keyword Research run based on that broad term. I then change to exact and remove all words with less that 33 searches/day. I check a handful to make sure they still have low competition. I then extract the keywords and save for later. I do a quick browse to make sure all the words are relevant and will attract the right type of person to my site.

When checking backlinks make sure you check the quality of the links. Many lack anchor text and even more lack quality. A lot lack IP diversity and authority.

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ormes21 14 years ago

Thanks a lot for the advice Fraggler, I will be referring back to this post tomorrow when I do some more keyword research and put what you said into practice. It makes sense.

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buzzpoint

14 years ago

Best advice. You are right, a lot of authors do miss that point.

Originally Posted by Fraggler

You need to analyse the top 10 to find out when the domains with more links are getting beaten by the new sites with no links. That means these large sites have most likely a poor backlinking profile for that keyword. You should also pick-up that a large number of links to the domain (not page) doesn't make a site hard to beat. It means that site can add a new page and easily dominate other poor competition. Amazon is a good example of this. They are always in the top 10 due to the links to their domain but a properly seo'd page can beat it easily for its keyword. You will pick up these patterns if you take note, either mental or written, of the patterns you are seeing.

This type of experience can't be taught and it is probably something that gets overlooked by the ebook authors because it becomes 2nd nature.

I also can't stress how important it is to be patient. Keep the backlink building consistent, the pages will jump up over time.

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14 years ago

Agreed, And also, you can do much better depending on the value of the clicks you're receiving. I have one site that gets a ton of clicks per day, but they're usually worth around $.10 on average each, then another site that gets about 5% as many clicks but they bank for average of $1.50 each. Find "buying niches" and not just entertainment niches. Companies like Target, Wal Mart and so on have much higher AdWords budgets than small entertainment sites looking for AdWords traffic.

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Fraggler

14 years ago

Yeah, it really is a toss up on juggling traffic vs high paying traffic. If it is a highly seaerched term but has a low payout it still might be worth doing if the competition is weak. Remember that you can alway monetise the traffic with other methods if Adsense isn't adequate for a particular term. Using Amazon or Ebay or maybe a CPA offer. Once you learn how to get the traffic that you need your options are limitless.

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brittlesnc

14 years ago

Okay, I may sound like a jerk/idiot in this post but...

I am following John's 7-day plan in his ebook, and he gave the impression that most of his sites have a few pages on them and that many of those sites have under 20 articles that link to each site. And that he maintains each one of his sites with a few article backlinks a week.

The point that I'm trying to make is that he made it seem that it's not all that difficult to get top ranking on Google with product niches, and that they require fairly minimal article backlinking for each mini site.

Was the 7-day plan an oversimplified plan of what it actually takes to get each mini site ranked on the 1st page of Google?

I've been following the plan and have 1 site doing okay and averaging about $20/month flucuating in the #9 and #10 position but the other sites may be too new to tell what they'll do as the other 4 sites are less than a month old.

However, I am keeping in mind that in his ebook he stated that sometimes nothing will happen with some sites (they won't rank well) and that the first 4-6 sites will be more or less practice.

I think his strategy can work and is starting to work a little for me but I'm thinking that maybe it's been exaggerated the low number of articles needed to get top ranking in Google (based on his 7-day plan) and how much you can "possibly" earn following his strategy.

But I do understand that he wants to sell ebooks with a little bit of hype---"The Exact Steps That I Use To Earn $300 to $400 Every Day With Google AdSense."

It wouldn't bother me if it took 6 months to a year to make on average $100/day, but at the end of the day no matter how much we love any business model---it's still a business and businesses need to make money or they won't be in business long.

No matter how much any of us "love" the AdSense business model I can't imagine anyone doing it for FREE lol. In fact most of us want to be able to make the same "5-figure" income as John

But I'll stop complaining and get back to work. Hopefully I'll be back on this thread 2 or 3 months from now eating my words about his strategy being oversimplified, and saying that I'm making $20+ a day

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Goatboy 14 years ago

Originally Posted by brittlesnc

Was the 7-day plan an oversimplified plan of what it actually takes to get each mini site ranked on the 1st page of Google?

Not having read the book, I can't answer that. I can say that I have examined a couple of hundred sites that are built on John's plan. There are a few that are ranking in the top 10 for their keywords with less than 5 baclinks. A few more have less than 10 backlinks. A few more have less than 20 backlinks. It all appears to depend on the keywords and how much competition there really is.
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14 years ago

making money online is never easy, although it looks like it easy. but yes it`s hard work i you have to look for the long run!

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InternetMarketingIQ

14 years ago

Bad information is still bad information. You don't need massive traffic to make money with Adsense.

You need to understand marketing principals and pick the right markets.

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LK

14 years ago

Hey Xfactor!

Sorry to hijack your thread, but I can't send pm's yet, so I figured this was the best way to contact you.

I was wondering if you would mind telling a bit more about your authority site.
You mention that it generates a substantial amount of your income, so I was wondering about the details, namely how this site makes money (is it adsense + something else or...)?

If you want you could PM me or start a new thread, so this thread doesn't end up going off topic.

Anyway thanks for all the great info on adsense, keep up the good work!!

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Bajsich

14 years ago

Hi all.

I have only been dealing with adsense and article marketing for 3 weeks now and have never heard a word or read a post prior to it. I have never made a single web page or written a single article or blog post.

I now have 5 pages based around 5 keywords with an average gl.s.c: 4000, exact under 25k , soc under 20 and cpc 1$+. Found them with relative ease with MNF as suggested by Xfactor. I have found about 15-20 more keywords that I am saving when I am done pimping the ones I am making at the moment.

For starters I posted 2-3 articles on the subject regarding the keyword on ezine and goarticles , my NEW sites got indexed within 5 days and are climbing the google ladder very quick.

I would suggest looking into the top 10 list and especially finidng out how the yourkeyord.com page with PR0 and 0-2 backlinks is sitting at the #3-#5 position. I have loads of these and have learned a lot from them ( key. density, prominence, what to bold etc etc. ).

So the Xfactor method is certainly working for me. A couple of cents are already on the adsense account but if I just think that 10 days ago I didnt know what a source code was...this is great.

Thank you for all the advice.

Sincerely, Base

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desouth

14 years ago

Originally Posted by XFactor

For Newbies, Adsense Is The Toughest Business To Make Money With

The problem I see is that most of you who have not been through the
wear and tear of trying and failing online, the idea that all you have to
do is put up a few articles and make money from clicks is appealing. But
you have it all wrong.

Since that 10 page thread in the old warrior forum started I must have
gotten about 150 emails asking me questions. Being the straight shooter
that I am I explained the truth, most of which they did not like hearing.

I explained that:

1) Adsense has nothing to do with making money from your content sites.
Content and traffic is what matters and if you do not like the idea of writing
10+ articles per day for your business then you might as well pack it up.

2) You are new, and you chose a business model that relies on 100% organic
traffic? Do you realize how much time this takes? Do you realize that everyone's
dream is to get all of the free traffic possible? Do you realize that your entire
income depends on free traffic?

My point is that this is not an Adsense business, this is a traffic and content
business.

3) There is no magic button to push that will build these sites for you. Where
do you think all of the content will come from? Someone has to write it. And
if you think you can get away with unchanged PLR (duplicate) then you are wasting
your time.

4) You have to stop buying software programs that are supposed to make you
rich overnight with Adsense. I did that in the beginning with several programs. Yes
I made money but I also get hundreds of websites deindexed in 6 weeks or less,
plus risked having my Adsense account shut down.

1 Site or 50 Smaller Sites: You Still Have To Do The Same Thing

Another subject that comes up often is deciding on whether to concentrate on
1-2 sites or dozens of smaller sites. Well either way you still have to do the same
work:

1) Original content
2) Backlinks

So I don't care how you go about it but it is best not to spread yourself too thin.
I am experiencing that now. I've got a super site that is making most of my income
but have toyed around with other ideas. I do believe in a few sites (not just one) so
it has been hard choosing.

You Do Not Need More Adsense Ebooks

Ok, so there is nothing wrong with learning basic SEO, article marketing tips, etc.
but sooner or later you have to accept the fact that making money with Adsense
boils down to these basics:

1) Content created around keywords (with basic on-page SEO)
2) Backlink building with basic off-page SEO.

That's it, really! Show me someone who knows nothing more than that, puts 500+
original articles on his site, plus several hundred articles posted in directories
(also niche forum backlinks, social bookmarking, etc), then that person is probably
looking at $50 - $100 per day in Adsense.

There Are Faster, Better, & More Profitable Ways To Make Money!

This may sound strange coming from someone that is fanatical about creating content
sites and living off Adsense alone, but if it is money you want, and fast money, and
more money, then Adsense is the worst possible choice to make.

I'm serious. Now keep in mind that I absolutely love this business model and plan
to take it as far as I can go with it. But the honest-to-God truth is that you can do
MUCH better if you choose another business model.

Product creation, affiliate marketing, PPC, anything else will beat the hell out of
writing your butt off, day after day, only seeing pennies in the beginning, having
to wait 6-8 months for serious returns. It's Insane!

HOWEVER.... I love it. And perhaps you do too. But it's a choice you have to make.

If it is money you are after, then choose another business model. But if you have
a passion for being a content publisher and enjoy the way the system works, you
will do well.

Hopefully you all can appreciate this post. I'm not trying to shatter any dreams here
but it's time everyone stop wasting months and months, even years, spinning their
wheels with a business model that they just might not be cut out for.

- John

Make a good content, put adsense and everything done. I made thousand$ with it. Good luck

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kartikkhattar

14 years ago

I wouldn't make it more complicated. What john is doing and what really works is

Good Content ---> SEO ----> Traffic ----> Money(Affiliate or Adsense whatever)

Now as far as copied content is concerned, from my experience ive seen that if you have a content which is out there on 50,000 other sites, then u will not be able 2 survive, but if that content is not copied by many AND you are mixing it up well AND you are adding value AND you are building backlinks then you have high chances of succeeding, i have seen it happening cz i have tried it.

I have an autoblog, which after some decent seo started giving me 10-13 bux a day, so i built another one and did article submissions, press release submissions and web 2.0 backlinking, and it just jumped 10 pages in google ranking(from 24th page to 14th page) . So whatever you do, you have to work hard. The term autoblog sounds like you just dont have to do anything, but its not like that, the content part is taken care of , but then you gotta make google believe that yes you really are a genuine webmaster who is concerned about his/her site by doing SOLID off page SEO. So in either way you have to work hard.

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jhonsean

14 years ago

Basically and well implemented methods should be in your mind when using strategical ways in SEO's through this it enhances every technique that you will use time after time.

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kartikkhattar

14 years ago

Originally Posted by jhonsean

Basically and well implemented methods should be in your mind when using strategical ways in SEO's through this it enhances every technique that you will use time after time.

I totally agree... it's a big circle and every part is important. You use PLR content, then work extra hard on backlinking. Do an excellent keyword research then half of your work is already done. I so much love this business although I am not a bigshot like many of the guys here but theres so much to learn n i totally enjoy it

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