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How do you outrank Wikipedia?

by warrick
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Hi, I have been actively searching for an appropriate keyword from Google's Adwords Keyword Tool so that i can find the best domain name.

I noticed that Wikipedia has a very high chance of being ranked first in many of the common keywords. Is there any way that I can outrank them? Is there anything else the spider looks out for other than repetition of the keyword in your content?
#outrank #wikipedia
  • Profile picture of the author ArticlePrince
    PageRank, number of backlinks, relevancy... more importantly though I would avoid using common keywords because they are so competitive, go for some of the long tails that are more difficult to optimize for.
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  • Profile picture of the author Marhelper
    Uh, you don't.

    Seriously, it is possible but not easy. My suggestion: Stick with long tail keywords and go from there.
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    The spiders USED to use logical ranking based on HTML format, but apparently generally DON'T anymore. It was too heavily used, and became near worthless. Good luck. Wikipedia is a nice popular site with LOTS of terms and LOTS of words. If I were google, I would be tempted to have it as a fixed link.

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    • Profile picture of the author warrick
      Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

      The spiders USED to use logical ranking based on HTML format, but apparently generally DON'T anymore. It was too heavily used, and became near worthless. Good luck. Wikipedia is a nice popular site with LOTS of terms and LOTS of words. If I were google, I would be tempted to have it as a fixed link.

      Steve
      Hi Steve, thanks for the information. What do you mean by fixed link?
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      • Profile picture of the author seasoned
        Originally Posted by warrick View Post

        Hi Steve, thanks for the information. What do you mean by fixed link?
        Maybe I should have said somewhat STATIC link. like "Go here to see info relating to x on wikipedia".

        hey, I LOVE wikipedia. GRANTED, some people threw garbage in, and some is biased, so you have to watch it, but you can't beat it for a quick online encyclopedic reference.

        As for the problems? wikipedia tightened security, and is cleaning them up.

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  • Profile picture of the author RGallowitz
    Wikipedia almost always ranks NUMBER 1 for information terms.
    Go for another keyword. Trying to outrank wikipedia is going to be quite difficult and time consuming.
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  • Profile picture of the author barryleed
    One way to find out for certain is through the software MicroNiche Finder in that for any given phrase you can find out who your competitors are and how many backlinks it will take to out rank them.

    Barry
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  • Profile picture of the author jasonmorgan
    Is there anything else the spider looks out for other than repetition of the keyword in your content?
    That option is going to do very little to help you rank for much of anything.

    Keyword stuffing was squashed long ago.
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  • Profile picture of the author warrick
    Thanks a lot for the information! Will keep this in mind on my future keyword searches!
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  • Profile picture of the author fitz10
    I don't know how I did it but I actually outrank Wikipedia on one term (an exact match on title). It could be because the Wikipedia entry mentions my blog. Sadly, this is just for a personal interest blog which is not monetized in anyway. Interestingly, I get roughly the same amount of traffic coming from Google for that term and from the Wikipedia backlink itself so a lot of people are still clearly going to Wikipedia even though it's ranked under me and one other site (a newspaper article).

    In most instances, I would not expect to outrank Wikipedia though.
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