I Have $10,000 to Spend On Google Adwords. How Would You Do it?

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Hey,

I have $10,000 for my PPC budget. How would you begin?

I've thought about hiring Perry Marshall for a 1 hour consultation which is about $750.

Then after a couple of weeks hire him again to go over my campaigns.

I've also thought about hiring a company like Jumpfly to do everything for me. Then again I am sure a lot of you will tell me that I should just do it myself. Which I could do by getting a tool like keyword spy or affiliate prophet which shows which keywords are converting.

How would you go about it?
#$10 #adwords #google #spend
  • Profile picture of the author dseisner
    I wouldn't pay $750 to perry marshall. No offense to Perry, but that seems like a bit of a waste. I would read all the good books, PPC Ninja, Perry's book, PPC Classroom, and perhaps spring for Speed PPC or a good PPC software. I'd get keyword spy or spyfu, then find some golden keywords, pay an expert to set up some nice looking landing pages that convert for some CPA or affiliate offers and then start to test some campaigns. I wish I had 10k for an adwords budget... I'd probably be sipping martinis in Cabo right now...
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  • Profile picture of the author tryinhere
    somebody slapped 10 big ones on the table for you to spend and you are green ? brave person.

    ? what to do ? an idea would be to limit your spend to say 1K max and from that one K see if you can make a profit, that would include any tools or books you need in that one K.

    Now at the end of that see where you went wrong and what you had right and go in and spend the next 1K on ads books and options needed and see if you can turn a profit this time around.

    repeat over up to 10K, and you should be good, but drop that 10K in the potty for a one out bung fight with Mr G your funds will probably vanish quicker than i can dream of genie and he will probably slap you on the backside as he thanks you for dropping in to play the mighty game called adwords.
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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
    Wouldnt spend it AT ALL on adwords. I would instead hire a plethora of people from odesk, DP for massive link building, SEO, blog/article creation and what not. And i would laugh in Google's face.

    I can see in your post that you dont have adwords experience, so i really would over-think this.

    Of course, you have the option to pay good money for a SEO/ADwords professional....i think that kind of budget actually demands that you consult a adwords/SEO pro and let them do the work especially if your own experience is not that high.
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    • Profile picture of the author 7_8_shortcuts
      Originally Posted by GeorgR. View Post

      Wouldnt spend it AT ALL on adwords. I would instead hire a plethora of people from odesk, DP for massive link building, SEO, blog/article creation and what not. And i would laugh in Google's face.
      Hehe, good one... laugh them in the face!

      I would also suggest... Don't underestimate the AdWords-Suction-Effect... 10k? No problem... you can lose them in few days or less! What do you want to actually promote? Affiliate offers or your own products?

      AdWords is great for your own products with high profit margin.

      And yes, if you want to still try it, at least limit your daily budget strictly and don't go over it, unless you start to make consistent profit. Start with something like $50-$100 a day and you will learn a lot of things quickly... but at least read Perry's book first.
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    • Profile picture of the author chini
      Originally Posted by GeorgR. View Post

      Wouldnt spend it AT ALL on adwords. I would instead hire a plethora of people from odesk, DP for massive link building, SEO, blog/article creation and what not. And i would laugh in Google's face.

      I can see in your post that you dont have adwords experience, so i really would over-think this.

      Of course, you have the option to pay good money for a SEO/ADwords professional....i think that kind of budget actually demands that you consult a adwords/SEO pro and let them do the work especially if your own experience is not that high.
      + 1, i would invest it into something which can produce future cash flows, instead of something which can be turned off with a click.

      If you are completely new to online marketing, here's my suggestion.
      Go through 30 Day Challange
      Go through the grunt work of creating a blog, articles, etc.
      After you done this, want ways to leverage/outsource the grunt work. (this is where your money comes in)
      And check out other systems, recommend by WSO members.
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  • Profile picture of the author dunshster
    Do you already have a niche or site to target?
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  • Profile picture of the author DogScout
    Please read Perry's book 1st... the one on his site, not the one on Amazon.

    And read Gen Livinston's blog( pay per click search marketing ) at the least if not join his Hyper-responsive club, the info there is forever no matter how fast you blow the 10k.

    (I'd also join Perry's MMC & a gold membership with Dan Kennedy... but that is just me)
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  • Profile picture of the author TheProdigy
    Before you go crazy on the Adwords, make sure you have a legit site that is already profitable. Pouring money into a site that isn't making a profit already will just make it lose money even faster...
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  • Profile picture of the author duncanb
    The a\bove poster makes a valid point about site quality.

    Assuming the site is of good quality and with potential i would research heavily into my planned expenditure before blowing such a sum. This is make or break time when such a sum is involved.

    Research, research research
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  • Profile picture of the author tonyaphx
    That's a lot of doe to spend on adwords I would say buy some tools out there that let you spy on your competiors to make sure you are getting the best for your money to make the most money.
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  • Profile picture of the author McBrett
    Hi James, Do you have 10K to spend over the course of a year? What is your website and niche? (if you don't mind) The reason I ask is that I would spend a bit of that testing ad copy and optimizing for conversions on your pages.

    I agree with dseisner, if you've only got 10K, I wouldn't spend it on personal consultation with Perry Marshall. Don't get me wrong, the guy is a genius. But an hour or two won't help you that much.
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  • Profile picture of the author seoguy1
    $10000 is a lot of money. If I were a newbie, I would open an account and learn to do it myself. It takes some time, but there's no substitute for knowing how to run an Adwords campaign yourself even you end up hiring others to manage your campaign for you.
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  • Profile picture of the author SeanSupplee
    Slow and steady, Test your ads over the first week and check them every few hours and place limits on them. Find out what ads are converting and for what keywords. Narrow it down to this set list after a months time and then start poor more money into the system. If you jump in all at once you run a large risk of burning all your money with little to no results.
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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
    Guys, don't you see we have a problem here: Someone is about to spend 10k...but needs to read a book first to understand adwords?

    Adwords can be very complex (i did it for 2 years intensively), read many courses...but it is still not "easy" by any means. Google will always find some ways to either push down your quality score or whatever other reason so you need to increase bids.

    I have also read a NUMBER of Adwords "systems" and courses which were total...scuse me, BS...starting with those "miracle adwords" systems where they tell you direct linking (with afflink) is the best thing since since sliced bread etc..etc.

    NONSENSE

    If i can make one conclusion from reading a bunch of adwords courses and doing AW myself its that to BE successful you need to spend some money, time and effort first to monitor and tweak your campaigns. This already can cost several throusands in clicks before you are even MAKING $$ and not losing it.

    Most of the people who are successful with adwords spent huge sums INITIALLY and then tweaked their campaigns..so that after a month (or months) they *finally* arrived at a point where a campaign has been tweaked to be PROFITABLE.

    But for doing this you need a very thorough understanding of all components, match types, CTR, conversion tracking, KEYWORD RESEARCH....let alone to spend a couple or so grand simply until your campaign is tweaked.

    Its NOT something where all you need is 10k and a week later you doubled your investment....you could as well go to the local casino!!

    That's why i said he NEEDS to consult a pro and let his campaign create and tweak by a pro....

    ( The worst thing which can happen is he actually reads one of those nonsense courses about direct linking...or (allegedly) $0.01/click WSOs...and the 10k can be gone quicker than he might think. AW can be very "dangerous" if you don't have substantial knowledge about it, keyword research included. )
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    • Profile picture of the author tryinhere
      Originally Posted by GeorgR. View Post


      That's why i said he NEEDS to consult a pro and let his campaign create and tweak by a pro....

      ( The worst thing which can happen is he actually reads one of those nonsense courses about direct linking...or (allegedly) $0.01/click WSOs...and the 10k can be gone quicker than he might think. AW can be very "dangerous" if you don't have substantial knowledge about it, keyword research included. )
      GeorgR I think you talk in general from your own experience, it also seems you had some trouble with direct linking.

      In saying that yes there is a lot of crapola out there,but to say it does not work ? you are only basing that on your own outcomes.

      and i will add one more thing, good luck finding a real pro who can and does make it work to take up your cause for this simple reason, do you think they would take payment of peanuts to manage a profitable account for another person to make big bucks ?

      Or do you think those that have worked the system out are laying low making even more from their own ventures ?
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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
    why "peanuts"? Certainly not. I mean, he has 10k to blow?

    Also...sorry, it's kindergarten level Adwords knowledge that direct linking is bad for MANY reasons.

    1) Quality Score
    2) Competing URL duplicates
    3) Possibly that your ad gets disapproved alltogether

    We really dont need to debate now whether a good, optimized landing page has an advantage over direct linking? I know that people use DL, simply using their affiliate/Clickbank links etc. But then please show me those with a good quality score...
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    • Profile picture of the author tryinhere
      Originally Posted by GeorgR. View Post

      We really dont need to debate now whether a good, optimized landing page has an advantage over direct linking?
      no debate here, i guess the op will get things sorted
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    • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
      Originally Posted by vishal96 View Post

      Spending an entire $10,000 on Adwords is not advisable, spend $100 a day on adwords and bid less than $0.10 for a keyword. You can use the rest of the money on sources such as StumbleUpon, Facebook ads and blog advertising. Try to get as much targeted traffic as possible.
      Depends on his niche....if you go on clickbank...and choose any of the mainstream niches like Weight Loss, "Green" Energy etc...he doesnt even need to start because the chances are slim that his KW with $0.10/bid even DISPLAYS. He needs to do extensive KW research, and even then it might be very hard to get keywords for $0.10 (this includes content network).

      If he does CPA...even worse..make the mistake to promote some ***p like colon cleanse or ****, your ad wouldnt even come up if you are under $1-$2/click.

      Why is that?

      Because adwords is full with

      a) Newbie marketers who risk it for a week or two and bid insanely high for something where the math simply wont work, simply to end the campaigns after a week after they realized it doesn't work out. And then being replaced by the next batch of newbies who try it whether it would be worth bidding $1.80 on "colon cleanse"...and so on..and so on..

      b) big companies with $1000s/day budget
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      • Profile picture of the author ZerosToHero
        Hey George,

        I have 2 products-

        1. Abs/Fitness Niche
        2. Gaining Muscle/BodyBuilding

        Who do you recommend for coaching? Like someone said before, if they can build my campaign into a profitable one why wouldn't they just create their product and do it? That's the only thing that scares me about a coach.
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  • Profile picture of the author Karan Goel
    Rather than spending $750, do some research, hire part-timers, read WF and other PPC forums and blogs, then go ahead and start campaigning.

    BTW, 10k is a lot for advertising. I would suggest to slash it off.
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