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Recently my adsense earnings per click have dropped. On average they are probably about 4-5 times lower than they used to be.

Do you have an idea of what might be causing this?

-Heimir
#earnings #low
  • Profile picture of the author big_t
    Hey Heimir,
    I'm still in the early stages of using Adsense, but I have heard many stories like yours where the PPC earnings go up and down. But in most cases they will return back to "normal". The ads are being bid on all the time so the prices fluctuate.
    How long has this been going on? For how many days have the earnings been lower than before?
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  • Profile picture of the author Davioli
    You've been smart priced it seems.
    Search Google for "smart pricing"

    Most of the time it happens when your adsense ads are unrelated leading to clicks but no real conversions for the advertisers. If it continues for a long time Google discounts your CPC.
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    • Profile picture of the author Heimir Finnson
      Seems so, I did a little search for it but found nothing on how to get out of this "smart pricing", any advice?
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  • Profile picture of the author big_t
    ^ this was going to be my next point.
    Can anyone confirm that smartpricing goes on with Adsense?
    Maybe with some details behind it on how it's done, etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author Davioli
    The first step is in analyzing your website.

    Perhaps there are some that display unrelated ads. You might want to check that out. I have also heard stories of entertainment/celebrity related websites which tend to get your account smart priced because the clicks are mostly accidental.

    Its Google, so no one can say with certainty when you will get UN-smartpriced(cool word eh..
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    • Profile picture of the author Heimir Finnson
      Originally Posted by Davioli View Post

      The first step is in analyzing your website.

      Perhaps there are some that display unrelated ads. You might want to check that out. I have also heard stories of entertainment/celebrity related websites which tend to get your account smart priced because the clicks are mostly accidental.

      Its Google, so no one can say with certainty when you will get UN-smartpriced(cool word eh..
      I've found some ads on some sites that are not relevant at all, can I block those out?
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      • Profile picture of the author lee schmidt
        I've found some ads on some sites that are not relevant at all, can I block those out?
        adsense setup, competitive site filter
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      • Profile picture of the author James Ross
        Originally Posted by Heimir Arnfinnsson View Post

        I've found some ads on some sites that are not relevant at all, can I block those out?
        Hi Heimir,

        I know that google does have some mechanism for that so you can remove your competitors from running ads on your site. I can't remember what it's called though. Anyone else know what I'm referring to?
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  • Profile picture of the author refernshare
    Also, if you have placed ads on site that does not perform at all, remove those ads for now and see if your earnings will go up. I read somewhere that big G does check overal sites performance to determine your earning per click.
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    • Profile picture of the author Heimir Finnson
      Originally Posted by refernshare View Post

      Also, if you have placed ads on site that does not perform at all, remove those ads for now and see if your earnings will go up. I read somewhere that big G does check overal sites performance to determine your earning per click.
      Are you talking about CTR? Because low CTR will not affect your earnings per click in any way.

      Originally Posted by FaTaLiT33 View Post

      How are your traffic? has your traffic been dropped or is it only the earnings
      Traffic been pretty much the same, maybe a little increase. It's only the earnings/click.

      I just recently started doing adsense and I only have a few new sites so there is very little traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author FaTaLiT33
    How are your traffic? has your traffic been dropped or is it only the earnings
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  • Profile picture of the author rkbehera1
    Google has it's own set of standards and parameters while paying to publishers. It is really very difficult to get a perfect answer from Google regarding its payment structure to Bloggers or web publishers. I have searched but not found any successful reply. Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author Heimir Finnson
      Originally Posted by scarlett30 View Post

      do they really pay you for that??
      What? Is there a point to this reply or are you just knocking up your post count?
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  • Profile picture of the author Davioli
    Refer to this blog post
    How To Get Worthless Adsense Clicks | Court's Internet Marketing School - How To Make Money Online

    Read the part about "reversing smart pricing" and implement it. All those websites that have a lower than normal CTR.. remove adsense from them and see if you get improvements in your CPC.
    The websites that have unrelated ads are more likely to have low CTR's because users aren't interested in those ads. Start by removing adsense from them.
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    • Profile picture of the author Heimir Finnson
      Originally Posted by Davioli View Post

      Refer to this blog post
      How To Get Worthless Adsense Clicks | Court's Internet Marketing School - How To Make Money Online

      Read the part about "reversing smart pricing" and implement it. All those websites that have a lower than normal CTR.. remove adsense from them and see if you get improvements in your CPC.
      The websites that have unrelated ads are more likely to have low CTR's because users aren't interested in those ads. Start by removing adsense from them.
      No that is not correct low CTR will not affect your CPC.

      This is taken from the official Google Adsense Blog
      2. Clickthrough rate doesn't affect advertiser return on investment (ROI)

      The percentage of clicks that convert for an advertiser is the most important factor in an advertiser's ROI, so it's not only possible, but common, to have a low CTR and a high advertiser conversion rate. It's also possible to have a high CTR and a low conversion rate. Don't remove the AdSense code from your site just because it has a lower CTR - it may be one of your best converting sites.
      Inside AdSense: The facts about smart pricing
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      • Profile picture of the author big_t
        Originally Posted by Heimir Arnfinnsson View Post

        No that is not correct low CTR will not affect your CPC.

        This is taken from the official Google Adsense Blog
        Inside AdSense: The facts about smart pricing
        I'll have to agree with Heimir on this one.
        I don't think a low CTR contributes to smart pricing. Because that wouldn't make any sense on Google's part. If no one is clicking on your ads, then there's no harm because there's no money lost. Plus you can have a CTR of 1% yet a 100% conversion rate. Which both Google and the advertiser would love.

        Low conversion on the other hand, that I can see causing smart pricing.
        But how can we know what our Adsense conversion rates are? If we wanted to cut loose a bad performing site.
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        • Profile picture of the author Heimir Finnson
          Originally Posted by big_t View Post

          But how can we know what our Adsense conversion rates are? If we wanted to cut loose a bad performing site.
          I think the only way is to browse our sites and filter out irrelevant ads url's, since they most certainly are not converting well.
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          • Profile picture of the author big_t
            Originally Posted by Heimir Arnfinnsson View Post

            I think the only way is to browse our sites and filter out irrelevant ads url's, since they most certainly are not converting well.
            That definitely needs to be done.
            After you filter out irrelevant ads, then let us know if you notice a difference in your CPC.
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  • Profile picture of the author simonheng82
    dude, try to filter the ads, i did it for my sites.........for one of my site, i received 15 clicks at one time, but the earning is only $0.25!!! So i try to spot those irrelevant ads especially from directory site, and filter it out......like....

    701Panduan - Malaysia Online Directory, Search Maps & City Guide
    www.mobissimo.com
    Mudah.my - The marketplace of Malaysia
    and etc...

    Simon
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  • Profile picture of the author Davioli
    Let me explain why the low CTR contributes to Smart pricing.

    It is more of an indirect thing rather than a direct cause of smart pricing. When you have a low CTR it indicates that your ads are not interesting for your visitors. It is very likely that those websites getting unrelated ads are the ones getting a low CTR.

    Filtering out your ads won't do much since there is a chance that some of your niche sites simply do not have that many advertisers. Go to Spyfu.com and see how many there are. If there are less than five it is possible that Google doesn't have enough related ads to show.

    This is of course a very basic approach.. but it works most of the time. There are many other variables obviously (like a low CTR can be caused by incorrect ad placement).. but as Courtney explained in her post.. it worked for her.

    We can only guess at the end... Google doesn't give us conversion statistics of its advertisers.

    Depending on your websites.. Id remove adsense from those that have a low CTR and/or unrelated ads and see if it improves my CPC over a week or two.
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  • Profile picture of the author Heimir Finnson
    Spyfu only shows the number of ads running for the search engine results, not the content network.

    But yeah, I see where you are going with the relevance between low CTR and irrelevant ads.
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    • Profile picture of the author Davioli
      Originally Posted by Heimir Arnfinnsson View Post

      Spyfu only shows the number of ads running for the search engine results, not the content network.
      It is still a good indicator of current advertisers. I follow it for my niche websites and haven't had a "low" advertisers for adsense problem.
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      • Profile picture of the author Heimir Finnson
        Originally Posted by Davioli View Post

        It is still a good indicator of current advertisers. I follow it for my niche websites and haven't had a "low" advertisers for adsense problem.
        Alright, thanks for that advice.

        It's also good to check sites that are targeting the same keywords and see if they have relevant ads running.
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  • Profile picture of the author AFD
    Originally Posted by Heimir Arnfinnsson View Post

    Recently my adsense earnings per click have dropped. On average they are probably about 4-5 times lower than they used to be.

    Do you have an idea of what might be causing this?

    -Heimir
    I have a very similar situation...Earnings from my niche sites are dropping... and from my other sites that have adsense for content... The traffic is still almost the same but the CTR is dropping...I am not having any problem with adsense for domains though.. only in content..
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  • Profile picture of the author Pacman131
    They'll go back up, it's just the way adsense is. It really depends on your niche to, some are really low than others.
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  • Profile picture of the author zafar123
    Earning with adsense is really tricky and no one knows how can you earn good and fast with it because google change their policies without intimation and blocked many accounts without any intimation which is really bad sign for such a big company.
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  • It's also not uncommon in tight niches for the primary advertisers to pull out of the contextual ad network.
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  • Profile picture of the author nettech
    IS your site seasonal? If so, there might not be sufficient advertisers for this period?
    Looks like your site has beensmart-priced. If this is the case, take a look at yoru content and see how relevant the ads are. If they are irrelavent, then use competitive ad filter and block these out. You can use CAF regardless to filter out the low paying advertisers. I did this and myearnings went up within a few days.

    I woudl also try and build backlinks to your site from relavent sites, e.g. write a few articles for EZA that are related to yoru product niche and try to also use other web2.0 sites such as squiddo and hubpages and get some backlinks, this may help.

    Some days you will notice a decrease in earning and sometimes an increase, if its consistenly on the low try the above. Hope it all works out and its only a temporary thing.

    Good luck
    Zaheer
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  • Originally Posted by Heimir Arnfinnsson View Post

    Recently my adsense earnings per click have dropped. On average they are probably about 4-5 times lower than they used to be.

    Do you have an idea of what might be causing this?

    -Heimir
    it's a well known fact that adsense earnings drop over a period of time.It happened to my sites and i've heard many webmasters say the same thing.
    You could also check out other publisher networks like the yahoo one
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  • Profile picture of the author tjcocker
    Well known fact? How long until they start to drop for everyone? Is it like months or years or what? Mine has just gone up, not in a straight line, but if you improve your skills, then your earnings improve. I haven't noticed any kind of vast conspiracy.
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