Automatic ping of your backlink pages - What do you think of the idea?

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Hello,

I have a system I developed for my personal use that I'm thinking of opening up to the public at large, and I would appreciate some comments from warriors. Assuming people feel it's a worthwhile idea, I'll be looking for a few beta testers, who would get free lifetime membership in return.

OK, so the problem started when using link packets like Angela's, Paul's and so on, to create profile pages that contain links to your site, although the same goes for Squidoo lens, Hubpages and similar.

As many people know, you get a lot more from these links if you ping them. The problem is that this adds time to backlink building, requires you to keep track of which you've pinged, and also requires care to make sure you don't ping too often.

So, I developed a system where I create a profile for each web site I want to promote (very quick and simple), then as I create backlink pages, I just drop the URL into my system. The system then builds RSS feeds and web pages from these links, and automatically pings them over a period of time. As a feed is changed (say if a new URL is added to it), it will ping the feed again. It will also periodically ping feeds that haven't been changed, but that haven't been pinged in a while.

It adds URLs to feeds randomly, so feeds get updated fairly regularly, and keeps the maximum number of URLs per feed to 15, so that all URLs get noticed. From what I've read, many feed aggregators and png services only read the first 15 or 20 URLs in a feed, so I prefer to have more feeds with max 15 URLs each.

I find that this saves me a lot of time, and takes away something that would otherwise require a fair amount of tracking.

I would like to know if fellow warriors think this would be a useful service to offer. If not, why not?

If you do think it's a good idea, please could you give me an idea of:

*) how many sites you would feel is reasonable to be allowed to add. Obviously, this will be balanced with the monthly fee, so the more sites you are allowed, the more the service would cost. I really don't have much idea at this stage how much to charge (see later question), but I need to know that it would be worth my while. The more sites, the more pinging, and the more work I need to do to ensure that everything runs smoothly, without setting off any alarm bells with excessive pinging.

*) how many URLs for each site. This could equally be how many feeds should be allowed per site as the two are related. This has the same issues as the previous question.

*) how much you think would be a reasonable monthly fee for such a service. I want to make it low enough that people will think it's worth using, but it has to be high enough to make it worth my while.

*) any problems you can see with the idea

*) any suggestions that might improve the idea

I would be grateful if you could answer these in the thread and not by PM, as I would like everyone to be able to read all the comments, so I can get a better picture of what the overall impression is.

If anyone is interested in beta testing the service, please let me know by PM (and NOT a reply in thread), including an estimate of how many sites you would add, and how many URLs per site. This will give me an idea of how many beta testers I can take on.

Also, if there are any techheads out there, I would be interested in you being a beta tester as I want to see if you can break the system! I'd prefer someone testing to break it and let me know, rather than someone hacking in and doing damage!

As I said, anyone who tests this for me will get free life membership assuming the project goes ahead. Warriors will get a special price as well

Thanks in advance for any comments.
Alan

P.S. I don't know if it makes any difference, and I don't even know if I would publicise the fact, but I am seriously considering setting this up so that all the money goes directly to charity. I am a trustee of a children's charity, so would probably just set up a PayPal account for them, and any monthly fees would get paid directly to them. I would pay the server charges and work on it for free. If you have any comments on this point, please feel free to speak up
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  • Profile picture of the author MrYossu
    Anyone any comments?
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  • Profile picture of the author laurenceh
    Hi Yossu,

    I do like the idea of profiles and comment backlinks getting pinged. I'm not sure how much it does speed the indexing process up, as I haven't tested on a big enough scale.

    You say it would build an rss feed and ping that. Would it be better just to auto ping the urls as they hit the system and then periodically after that?
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    • Profile picture of the author MrYossu
      Originally Posted by laurenceh View Post

      Hi Yossu,

      I do like the idea of profiles and comment backlinks getting pinged. I'm not sure how much it does speed the indexing process up, as I haven't tested on a big enough scale.
      Judging by what I've been told by people who know more than me (ie most people!), it does help the indexing, but I think there is more benefit in the fact that your backlink pages get noticed. A lot of these page would otherwise hide in oblivion forever, but pinging brings them to the attention of the SEs. That's more about building backlinks than indexing.

      Originally Posted by laurenceh View Post

      You say it would build an rss feed and ping that. Would it be better just to auto ping the urls as they hit the system and then periodically after that?
      In a way, yes, but that's where the problem was. My idea was to remove one step of the process, by having the system do the initial ping for me. I was building the backlink page, then copying the URL into a ping site and clicking the button. That took a little extra time that I wanted to save. I couldn't just save the URLs until I had a pile of them and do them en mass because a lot of the ping sites get upset if you ping too quickly. That's why I came up with the idea of adding them to a system that will ping them for me over a period of time.

      The other point you make about periodic pinging is very valid, but again, it's one more thing to think about. You have to keep track of which URLs need pinging, and when you last pinged them. You then have to pick out the right ones and ping them yourself. The system does all that for you.

      I'm lazy at heart, so anything that will do the work for me is a good idea!

      Does this answer your questions? I'd love to hear any more comments you have.

      Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author SpeedofMoney
    I think I would be interested in this service, especially if it automatically creates the RSS Feeds automatically as well. It would be great if it submitted them to multiple places as well too.
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    • Profile picture of the author MrYossu
      Originally Posted by SpeedofMoney View Post

      I think I would be interested in this service, especially if it automatically creates the RSS Feeds automatically as well. It would be great if it submitted them to multiple places as well too.
      It does create the feeds for you, that's part of the service. I forgot to mention in my first post, but it doesn't add any links to other people's sites! I noticed that the free RSS feed services add their own link in your feed, which is presumably why they are offering the service for free. My system will most defintely not do that!

      As for multiple places, I currently use a service that pings 22 different ping services, including weblogs.com, feedburner, blo.gs, google blog search, technorati and others. That way you get your pages noticed widely.

      Thanks for the reply
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      • Profile picture of the author billdotd
        Is this project still active? I could have used this service recently and found the page by Googling. I am hoping you're still working on it.

        I checked the site in your footer but it was dead...
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  • Profile picture of the author iw433
    *) how many sites you would feel is reasonable to be allowed to add. Obviously, this will be balanced with the monthly fee, so the more sites you are allowed, the more the service would cost. I really don't have much idea at this stage how much to charge (see later question), but I need to know that it would be worth my while. The more sites, the more pinging, and the more work I need to do to ensure that everything runs smoothly, without setting off any alarm bells with excessive pinging.
    This would be a service that off-line marketers could use so the amount of websites should be high


    *) how many URLs for each site. This could equally be how many feeds should be allowed per site as the two are related. This has the same issues as the previous question.
    Not really. There could be some internal linking, like maybe 5 or 10 internal pages per site.


    *) how much you think would be a reasonable monthly fee for such a service. I want to make it low enough that people will think it's worth using, but it has to be high enough to make it worth my while.
    Some of this could be done by outsourcing to the Philippines so your price would have to be competitive.


    *) any problems you can see with the idea
    I think it's a great idea, go for it.


    *) any suggestions that might improve the idea
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  • Profile picture of the author Michelle Green
    Sounds like a good idea to me. I'd buy something like that if the price was right.
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  • Profile picture of the author LauraJames
    Definitely creative. Thank you for sharing this with the members of the Warrior Forum. Best wishes to you.
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    • Profile picture of the author MrYossu
      Thanks for the replies.

      This project closed very recently. I had it running, and it was going OK, but I didn't have the time to maintain it, so I stopped work on it.

      If anyone is interested in taking it over, I would be willing to sell it all, domain name, code, web site, etc. It would need someone with experience in C# and ASP.NET to maintain it, but you could always pick someone up from elance or similar for that.

      If anyone is interested, please PM me. Thanks for the interest.
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