Link wheel question

14 years ago

I would create multiple smaller link wheels, then start interlinking the smaller wheels together. That's just a personal preference though, some people make huge linkwheels spanning hundreds of sites. Others stick with 10-20 per wheel and make 5-10 smaller wheels that are all interlinked.

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runner

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Paul Roekle

I would create multiple smaller link wheels, then start interlinking the smaller wheels together. That's just a personal preference though, some people make huge linkwheels spanning hundreds of sites. Others stick with 10-20 per wheel and make 5-10 smaller wheels that are all interlinked.

It is interesting, that you suggest to combine the wheels to get better traffic and ranking results.

Could you explain a little bit, which parts you would combine.

Thanks for your help,

Juhani

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Mountainmotorman

14 years ago

Originally Posted by pks1967

Hi,

I've been building an open-ended link wheel. I've got about 11, web 2.0 sites strung one after the other, with each one pointing to my website also. The last link in the chain does not link to the first link in the chain, as I've heard that google doesn't like that anymore.

Can I just keep adding one or two new web 2.0 sites to my link wheel each day or would it be better to cut it off at a set number and start a new one.

If I had a string of 30 or 40 or more sites in my link wheel, would that be too much?

Thanks for your input and advice,

Brad

250 links that do not connect directly and counting for one of my members and I am telling you, he is a happy man!!! He keeps linking these articles that he has with other articles that point to other articles that point to the money site internal pages and it is a wild chain and it is keeping him UP on Google and raising him in other keywords now!!!

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pks1967

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Mountainmotorman

250 links that do not connect directly and counting for one of my members and I am telling you, he is a happy man!!! He keeps linking these articles that he has with other articles that point to other articles that point to the money site internal pages and it is a wild chain and it is keeping him UP on Google and raising him in other keywords now!!!

I don't mean to look like a blockhead, buy i'm not sure I understand what you're saying here. Are you saying that the 250 links, link one to the other but not the money page and just the last one in the chain links to the money page?

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Thomas W

14 years ago

I'm having better results with Silos. You should check this out. It's almost like a link wheel but not all the properties point to the money site

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Paul Roekle

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Thomas W

I'm having better results with Silos. You should check this out. It's almost like a link wheel but not all the properties point to the money site

Quick Traffic With Silos

Hi Thomas,

That was a pretty interesting video but it appears those "silos" are an internal linking structure while linkwheels are external. It looks like you can combine them though to make a pretty advanced link structure (setup).

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Alexandru

14 years ago

From what I understand, Brad, you have that straight-forward view of affiliate marketing. I say you should drop it at the start. Don't wait for others to tell you what to do exactly. Feel free to test and try things on your own

But I've been a beginner and back then I did need help, so I know how it is when you want one of these questions to be cleared. I'm going to try and help you out here.

In my future eBook I'm featuring the linkwheel that I'm about to show you.

Is this what you've been doing?

Leaving just one site without a backlink isn't that effective. I don't believe Google sees the links as linkwheels. And I also don't believe that they can only detect them if they're in a wheel. They can detect them even if they're not in a closed wheel. I don't know how they do it and I don't believe anybody does (except their employees

).

But here's something that I use and get great results with:

I always recommend using something random and without rules. Just post those sites in there and link as you feel like linking. When you do that, there is no way to get caught.

If have any more questions feel free to ask. I'll keep a close eye on this thread

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Bajsich 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Caville

But here's something that I use and get great results with:

Interesting wheel. I am wondering how many different articles you use in this linkwheel. Are all the articles just spun ( if so how do you achieve the level of uniqness that is apropriate for google ) or are they all unique 400word+ articles.

If I get the entire structure right ; you are only anchor texting the main keyword of the main page in the 5 main web 2.0. sites. The other linkwheels on those sites never include the main keyword ? Related words i presume...
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superSEO2011

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexandru

From what I understand, Brad, you have that straight-forward view of affiliate marketing. I say you should drop it at the start. Don't wait for others to tell you what to do exactly. Feel free to test and try things on your own

But I've been a beginner and back then I did need help, so I know how it is when you want one of these questions to be cleared. I'm going to try and help you out here.

In my future eBook I'm featuring the linkwheel that I'm about to show you.

Is this what you've been doing?

Leaving just one site without a backlink isn't that effective. I don't believe Google sees the links as linkwheels. And I also don't believe that they can only detect them if they're in a wheel. They can detect them even if they're not in a closed wheel. I don't know how they do it and I don't believe anybody does (except their employees

).

But here's something that I use and get great results with:

I always recommend using something random and without rules. Just post those sites in there and link as you feel like linking. When you do that, there is no way to get caught.

If have any more questions feel free to ask. I'll keep a close eye on this thread

Wow thanks for the diagrams post on here! I am still learning and visuals pleasing to the eye!

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oursmartweb

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexandru

From what I understand, Brad, you have that straight-forward view of affiliate marketing. I say you should drop it at the start. Don't wait for others to tell you what to do exactly. Feel free to test and try things on your own

But I've been a beginner and back then I did need help, so I know how it is when you want one of these questions to be cleared. I'm going to try and help you out here.

In my future eBook I'm featuring the linkwheel that I'm about to show you.

Is this what you've been doing?

Leaving just one site without a backlink isn't that effective. I don't believe Google sees the links as linkwheels. And I also don't believe that they can only detect them if they're in a wheel. They can detect them even if they're not in a closed wheel. I don't know how they do it and I don't believe anybody does (except their employees

).

But here's something that I use and get great results with:

I always recommend using something random and without rules. Just post those sites in there and link as you feel like linking. When you do that, there is no way to get caught.

If have any more questions feel free to ask. I'll keep a close eye on this thread

Curiously,

How's all this working out for you guys Post Panda \ Post Penguin? Curious to know...

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pks1967

14 years ago

Wow. that's quite a diagram. I'll have to give that some serious study. Thanks for sharing it.

Brad

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Alexandru

14 years ago

No problem. As for your question if it's better to build 30-40 sites in one linkwheel - I don't think it is. I'd go with stuff like the diagram I've shown above. I'm going to show you one more, just so that you can realize that you're free to create your own diagrams. No strict rules apply when creating linkwheel (not sure why we still call them linkwheels

)

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patriklko 14 years ago

The web link wheel app lets you visit a different web link every time you touch the reader with the same tag. After the last link, the first one is used again, etc.
So the first time you touch the reader your web mail in box might show, next your face book page, next your intranet homepage... and so on.
The number of different links you put in there is unlimited.
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greg2200 13 years ago

Hello, thank you for the very infomative posts and diagram. I am interested in putting a link wheel together . I understand the concept and the process, but how do you connect one web 2.0 property to the other? Do you just focus on one keyword per link wheel? When you ping do you ping each web 2.0 property and the main site? Where do I get the rss feed url? Do ping the web 2.0 property url, and the rss feed url? What does the rss feed url accomplish when pinging? Sorry so many questions, I really like the link wheel idea and can see why it is so beneficial and want to build it a right away?

Greg
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runner 13 years ago

Interesting picture. I am just starting with link wheel and still studying.
I wonder if the system is for one long tail, low demand keyword?

It seems, that the link-routes can be long or short ones, but the destination is always
the money site.

One question popped into my mind:
if all sites in the wheel are high PR sites, which link to another
site, and finally to the money site, can the money site benefit
only from the increased traffic but not from the higher SERP?
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ilovejdmtoy

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexandru

No problem. As for your question if it's better to build 30-40 sites in one linkwheel - I don't think it is. I'd go with stuff like the diagram I've shown above. I'm going to show you one more, just so that you can realize that you're free to create your own diagrams. No strict rules apply when creating linkwheel (not sure why we still call them linkwheels

)

Thanks for the diagram, this one is much easier to read.

And the squidoo can act as a firewall, so if there is any issue, it will not affact the money site.

But I do have a question that for each small web 2.0 site, should I rewrite the content of the squidoo or just something else but with related to this content?

Currently I am doing the link wheel using 6 to 7 spokes.

But for each spoke, I am rewritting the same blog posting over in 6 or 7 different ways and post them.

Please point out if I did anything wrong or need improvement.

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moxxom

14 years ago

wow,...great scheme,..and its too complicated...

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myolay21

14 years ago

Hi Caville ,

in your diagram web 2.0 and main web 2.0 are internal linking ? Anyway thanks for sharing.

P.S I joined here since 2007 and I hardly post just enjoy reading ... so this is my first post btw

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johnhudson 14 years ago

hi

thanks for giving me good information about link wheel . i have no knowledge about it i am very happy to learn about it these views good for our knowledge i will be very happy if you give more details about it
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Alexandru

14 years ago

@moxxom: Actually, it's not that complicated. Just take a look at one of the wheels and you just have to replicate the same things with the others.

@myolay21: First, I feel honored to have made you make your first post after 3 years

It's not all internal linking. Usually I use one account on a web 2.0 site to post 2-3 articles. Depends on the type of linkwheel.

@johnhudson: Sure, if you have any specific question feel free to ask

@Bajsich: All the articles are unique, 400+ words, sometimes even 600+ words. I use a method that generates unique articles in just a few minutes. So, for 10-15 articles it usually takes me about an hour to get them. Maybe a little more

I'm featuring it in my new WSO. As for the linking, you are right. The main keyword goes to the main site just from the 5 web 2.0 main sites. I'm in the process of testing to see if linking from all the sites to my main site gives better results or not.

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culvers

14 years ago

interesting, have been considering experimenting with these myself. Just how effective can they be? Anyone got some examples of how far up the rankings one of the more complex wheels can push them?
*Edit* to add - do you think its overkill to try this on a low competition niche site currently ranked on page 3 with 0 backlinks?

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Alexandru

14 years ago

Originally Posted by culvers

interesting, have been considering experimenting with these myself. Just how effective can they be? Anyone got some examples of how far up the rankings one of the more complex wheels can push them?
*Edit* to add - do you think its overkill to try this on a low competition niche site currently ranked on page 3 with 0 backlinks?

It all depends on the competitions. As for how far can the linkwheels push your site, I don't think anyone can give an answer to your question. You have to just do it and if you don't see the desired results do it again, and again until you see the results

I don't think it's an overkill. You'll probably push your site to the first page once you build one linkwheel. Build 1-2 more and you'll be most likely be #1.

But don't forget to submit your web 2.0 sites to RSS submission sites and ping them. Else it will take forever for Google to index those blogs and for your backlinks to take effect.

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RegalWeb

13 years ago

You can do several mini-link wheels linking to another. 5 sets of these would be enough. Why not prefer one-way backlinking? It has the same impact.

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runner 13 years ago

Originally Posted by RegalWeb

You can do several mini-link wheels linking to another. 5 sets of these would be enough. Why not prefer one-way backlinking? It has the same impact.

As I have understood, the spokes of the wheel are located in different web 2.0 autority sites, which have high PR. The variety of web 2.0 sites ( Blogger, Squidoo, Hubpages, Ezinearticles,WP etc ) and 1 - way links give an extra kick.

My Squidoo, Blogger and Hubpage got high SERPs in 2 days
and the money site SERP rose a few steps.

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skyinfosol

13 years ago

Link wheel is basically links created from different websites that is quality backlinks which would affect a large number of websites in a good way if quality links are taken into consideration.

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Kate Crinsler

13 years ago

Very much appreciative experts. Thank you

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jesus72knight

13 years ago

I used to do link wheeling and it's taking up time. I'd rather do one way backlinking.

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seonooid

13 years ago

Thanks for the link diagrams and for your input Alexandru.

I know that building link wheels is really time consuming but I will have to try it to see the results for myself.

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ann1986

13 years ago

also give your parasites some linkjuice to give it more value.

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runner

13 years ago

Originally Posted by pks1967

Hi,

I've been building an open-ended link wheel. I've got about 11, web 2.0 sites strung one after the other, with each one pointing to my website also. The last link in the chain does not link to the first link in the chain, as I've heard that google doesn't like that anymore.

Can I just keep adding one or two new web 2.0 sites to my link wheel each day or would it be better to cut it off at a set number and start a new one.

If I had a string of 30 or 40 or more sites in my link wheel, would that be too much?

Thanks for your input and advice,

Brad

Nice building project! How do you use keywords,
has the link pointing to your money page the same keyword from
different spokes? What keywords you use from spoke to spoke?

Juhani

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socialbookmark

13 years ago

I think theres not any limitation for adding sites to your linkwheel and you can add as much as you want to your list but you should be able to manage them and write articles in them. I suggest you to add sites to it if you can manage them. Internet has no limitation.

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brad91 13 years ago

So I think I understand.
Does each spoke/ web 2.0 article use a different keyword?
- ie. write an article or a squidoo page around a unique keyword for each spoke?

Do you need to ping each spoke daily or how often?

Should you use the same web 2.0 or different ones for each spoke.
ie spoke 1 = squidoo, spoke 2 = hubpages, spoke 3 = ezine articles, etc

Should each article or web 2.0 point to different internal pages of main site?

Should you wait a few days or week between posting each spoke/web 2.0?
or can you do the entire wheel in one day?

thanks,
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13 years ago

The diagrams are great......they really helped...
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12 years ago

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marketwarrior06

Banned 12 years ago

The way that you are following is the simple Link wheel and they will keep the footprints which Google don't love. try to make it a complex link wheel.no continuation should be kept.
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