Backlinks from your site to your site?

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I was wandering if it's possible to gain backlinks from your site to your site. I've made some tests to some websites and the results were that some of the backlinks were generated from the same site. How is this possible? I Understand that it happens in subdomains but something like this is really intresting.
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  • Profile picture of the author novintabligh
    I think it is possible, as PR is per page not per site. If you have multiple pages in your site with high PR, then they can link to each other and the links are counted at-least in google. I've seen some sites with backlinks from themselves.
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  • Profile picture of the author actionplanbiz
    its actually a good practice to have your links linking back to other pages.
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  • Profile picture of the author kevinflatt
    I always interlink pages on my sites. On my older sites I have quite a lot of backlinks coming from the same site, especially as pages get ranked (PR).

    Kevin
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  • Profile picture of the author Nick M
    This is one of the reasons I use "Yet another related posts plugin" on my WordPress sites. It identifies related content and links it together.

    Conversely, make sure that your internal links to non-content pages (like log in, privacy policy etc.) are set to no-follow. There is nothing worse than channeling your site's google juice to create a PR4 log-in page.
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    • Profile picture of the author dburk
      Originally Posted by Nick M View Post

      Conversely, make sure that your internal links to non-content pages (like log in, privacy policy etc.) are set to no-follow. There is nothing worse than channeling your site's google juice to create a PR4 log-in page.
      Hi Nick,

      I believe this advice is a bit dated. Google changed their algorithm more than two years ago and you no longer benefit by making your internal links nofollow. In fact, you are actually sending a portion of your link juice to the ether by making those internal links nofollow. This link is a detailed discussion about PageRank Sculpting posted by Google engineer Matt Cutts.

      Pagerank sculpting isn't completely dead, it's just not effective to do with the nofollow attribute on your links. This link will give you some ideals on how you can still do PR sculpting on your website:

      PageRank Sculpting Isn't Dead But Comments Can Kill Your PageRank
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      • Profile picture of the author Nick M
        Thanks dburk, I'll check it out.

        I posted this since I had this issue with, one of my sites with internal follow links. It was previously unranked, but after the Google's PR update last week,my terms and privacy policy both had a PR or 4 which was the same as my home page.

        I didn't have the same problem on other sites using internal no-follows
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        • Profile picture of the author dburk
          Originally Posted by Nick M View Post

          Thanks dburk, I'll check it out.

          I posted this since I had this issue with, one of my sites with internal follow links. It was previously unranked, but after the Google's PR update last week,my terms and privacy policy both had a PR or 4 which was the same as my home page.

          I didn't have the same problem on other sites using internal no-follows
          Hi Nick,

          While you might see that as a problem, actually it's a nice positive opportunity. Both your "Terms" and "Privacy Policy" pages now have link juice that feeds back to any navigation links you may have placed on those pages. Hopefully you had the good sense to include keywords in your navigation link anchortext.

          You could also channel some of that link juice to an internal page that you're trying to get to rank for a specific keyword. Just add a single call-to-action at the bottom of those pages using your targeted keyword and you will instantly boost the ranking power of the target pages.
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    This is what is actually called Internal Links.

    If you have any doubt as to the power of Internal Links, you only need to spend an afternoon studying the Wikipedia. Wikipedia allows outsiders to link in, but they do not pass link juice out of their own site. Then they interlink all of their pages.

    That site is chock full of PR6, PR7 and PR8 pages...

    Of course, PageRank does not directly affect how well a page will rank in Google for specific keywords, but PageRank does support the Trust Rank that the page receives and gives away to other Wikipedia pages.

    If you follow the Wikipedia example and check their source code, they are not trying to link to every page of their site from every page of their site. They start with External Inbound Links to certain pages, then they pass the link popularity to other pages within their own site.

    In the end of the game, Wikipedia holds high value in the eyes of the Google Algorithms, as you can generally find a Wiki page in the top 5 search results for most any search term.
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  • Profile picture of the author jrogers24
    does anyone know if you get penalized for having links on many sites that you own , all linking to each other, for example, i own over 50 sites, can I have them all have links to each other, or will google penalize that since they all come from the same cpanel IP?
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by jrogers24 View Post

      does anyone know if you get penalized for having links on many sites that you own , all linking to each other, for example, i own over 50 sites, can I have them all have links to each other, or will google penalize that since they all come from the same cpanel IP?
      Some people will insist that the answer is YES.

      In my mind, this is another SEO myth that may have been created by web hosting companies looking to sell more services.

      A buddy of mine is on a Yahoo Business account, and there are 96,000 domains on that one IP address. Many web hosting companies do this, so I cannot fathom that Google would be seriously consider IP addresses as a negative in the search ranking game.

      However, with this being said, the answer to your question is a bit more complex.

      If all of your sites link to all of your sites, then Google can see an integral relationship between all 50 sites. In this case, Google may negate the individual links.

      There is nothing wrong with linking between your sites, but you should do so carefully.

      You also want to make a point of avoiding template links, which force the link to appear on all pages of a site.

      I had a situation last week where one of the pages I was trying to rank had climbed to #96. That is not high I know, but it is a new page, less than a week old. I set one link up to the page that was a blogroll link in a Wordpress site with some PR. Suddenly, my target page disappeared out of Google's results.

      I wondered if there was a relation, so I killed the blogroll link, then added a single post with a single link to the page. As soon as I killed the blogroll link, my page's ranking came back from oblivion. The page is back to where it was before it took the dive, at the same time as the blogroll link was live.

      I also own about 50 sites. One site has links here and there for my other domains. But only one or two of my other 49 sites point back to the lead domain.
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