How soon do u start backlinking after creating new site?

14 years ago

Originally Posted by learnfromthebest

Just wondering, after you create a new site, how long do you wait to create backlinks?

Is it alright to start building massive backlinks after a week or so?

I would never build "massive" backlinks - even after ten years. Backlink building has to look natural, otherwise the SEs will just blacklist your site.

Start off small, say 10-20 links in the first week, and slowly increase. Build them up over a period of time. Whilst this will take longer, it will give you a far greater chance of success, and will give long-term results.

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Alan

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butters

14 years ago

Originally Posted by MrYossu

I would never build "massive" backlinks - even after ten years. Backlink building has to look natural, otherwise the SEs will just blacklist your site.

Start off small, say 10-20 links in the first week, and slowly increase. Build them up over a period of time. Whilst this will take longer, it will give you a far greater chance of success, and will give long-term results.

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Alan

I can think of a few reasons why BL's will never, ever get you black listed from google.

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Chris Steiner

14 years ago

Originally Posted by butters

I can think of a few reasons why BL's will never, ever get you black listed from google.

I'd have to agree. If you look like you're trying to game the system, you may get sandboxed, at least for a while, but I don't think backlinks will get you deindexed or black listed.

As far as when to start building backlinks, my answer would always be right away. You did the work to set up the site, you would probably want to start getting traffic right away, and backlinks are a good place to start. When it comes to massive backlinks, remember that you only have to be better than the page in the second position to be #1.

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MrYossu

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Chris Steiner

I'd have to agree. If you look like you're trying to game the system, you may get sandboxed, at least for a while, but I don't think backlinks will get you deindexed or black listed.

As far as when to start building backlinks, my answer would always be right away. You did the work to set up the site, you would probably want to start getting traffic right away, and backlinks are a good place to start. When it comes to massive backlinks, remember that you only have to be better than the page in the second position to be #1.

You're both right, blacklisted was the wrong expression. Sandboxed would be a better way of putting it.

Either way, it's not something I'd want to experience. I build more slowly and avoid the risk altogether.

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butters

14 years ago

Originally Posted by MrYossu

You're both right, blacklisted was the wrong expression. Sandboxed would be a better way of putting it.

Either way, it's not something I'd want to experience. I build more slowly and avoid the risk altogether.

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Alan

I also doubt you will be sandboxed... If I am your competetion, I could dump a load of links on you and get you sandboxed, it isn't that easy. Google may pay no attention to the links and not count them towards the websites score but you wont be sandboxed, banned etc... if you have loads of links pointing to your site and they sandboxed you, it makes it to much of a flawed system. if they allowed that to happen it opens up for huge abuse.

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Fernando Veloso 14 years ago

Originally Posted by MrYossu

Backlink building has to look natural, otherwise the SEs will just blacklist your site.

NO one is going to be blacklisted because of that, otherwise people just needed to spam competition's url to death.

Sandboxed would be a better way of putting it.

Are you saying I just need to create a Google Alert for new sites with keyword X (or use a custom script to grab newly registered domains with X keywords) and then s.p.a.m. those sites to get them sandboxed for a long time?
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Toby.T

14 years ago

Originally Posted by MrYossu

I would never build "massive" backlinks - even after ten years. Backlink building has to look natural, otherwise the SEs will just blacklist your site.

Start off small, say 10-20 links in the first week, and slowly increase. Build them up over a period of time. Whilst this will take longer, it will give you a far greater chance of success, and will give long-term results.

Hope this helps,
Alan

I started my site on the 11th of April and have completed a few signature backlinks (elsewhere) and 3 articles. I assume this is slow and steady. Would 5 articles a week be considered natural (on the same article directory ezine)?

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rawservices

14 years ago

Immediately start creating back links if the site means anything as far as income to you.

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weblanwan

14 years ago

Can someone explain to me back linking and the benefits. I have a WordPress site and I see in the post section I can enter a back link URL. I also see a section called Link Exchange URL - what are these? Also how do I tell if anyone is linking to my sites?

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Barry Unruh

14 years ago

Originally Posted by learnfromthebest

Just wondering, after you create a new site, how long do you wait to create backlinks?

The moment you have valuable content to share with people. Whether it is day 1 or day 299.

If it is a blog, or you create new pages, start the process all over again for those internal pages.

Massive backlinks too rapidly? Could get you sandboxed for a while, but if you use good tools you can schedule the bookmarking to happen over a period of days or weeks, and make it look a little more natural.

Take that comment to the logical conclusion though...If massive backlinks can get you in trouble, why do news sites, popular blogs, hot new products, etc...ever manage to stay on the internet? What about hot news about a celebrity?

Those sites could generate 1,000's if not 10,000's of back links in a few days with no problems, and they do not disappear.

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Gringo

14 years ago

A rule of thumb I used is create a google alerts for your keyword.

This will send you each and every day a list of articles related to your KW.

Then each and every day create some back links from those sites; some will be no follow and some do follow this will make it more natural in the backlinking process. Also this will start to bring you people who actualy are interested in learning more about the said subject..

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JustOnePepsi

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Gringo

A rule of thumb I used is create a google alerts for your keyword.

This will send you each and every day a list of articles related to your KW.

Then each and every day create some back links to those sites some will be no follow and some do follow this will make it more natural in the backlinking process. Also this will start to bring you people who actualy are interested in learning more about the said subject..

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I like this! Also gives you fresh content ideas for articles.

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Barry Unruh

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Gringo

A rule of thumb I used is create a google alerts for your keyword.

This will send you each and every day a list of articles related to your KW.

Then each and every day create some back links to those sites some will be no follow and some do follow this will make it more natural in the backlinking process. Also this will start to bring you people who actualy are interested in learning more about the said subject..

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I really hope you meant FROM those sites, not TO those sites. I am guessing you are looking at those sites to see if they offer options for creating links or comments.

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Gringo

14 years ago

Originally Posted by KansasDragon

I really hope you meant FROM those sites, not TO those sites. I am guessing you are looking at those sites to see if they offer options for creating links or comments.

Woops Yes I meant from those sites. That's what being in Afghanistan and typing late at night will do to ya.

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JohnMcCabe 14 years ago

With regards to creating large numbers of backlinks and appearing natural, I think you have to look at the source of those links.

If I have a new site, along with any of the tools available to list it with directories, RSS aggregators, etc., it would not be unnatural to have several thousand of those links the first day.

With the advent of article syndicators, it would not be unnatural for an article to be submitted to hundreds of article directories in one day.

On the other hand, IMO, it would appear unnatural for several thousand profiles to show up on hundreds of unrelated sites, all pointing to a single new site. Especially if they all have user names or screen names that coincidentally match the key word for the site...

As far as submitting articles by hand goes, if you can do it manually, it's natural.
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  Usually I start backlinking one month after registering domain because I afraid Google will take my website in sandbox.
  
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MarkAse

14 years ago

Given the amount of new content available on the web on a daily basis, I hardly think Google is going to notice (or have their search algorithms set so low as to notice) a new site building a few hundred links in it's first few weeks.

For example, when the New York Times launched its wine club, they received close to 10k links overnight. Penalty from Google, no chance. By comparison I believe I just hit the 10k link mark for my site which has been around since last July, no problems there either.

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MrYossu

14 years ago

Originally Posted by MarkAse

Given the amount of new content available on the web on a daily basis, I hardly think Google is going to notice (or have their search algorithms set so low as to notice) a new site building a few hundred links in it's first few weeks.

With all due respect, I think you grossly underestimate the complexity and sophistication of Google's spidering and analytical software.

They notice (ie examine and analyse) every single page that they index. That's how they know what ranking to give it. One of the factors they take into account is the backlinks. They know exactly which pages link to yours, and when their spider first noticed the link. If they see a sudden increase from one indexing to the next, they are likely to be suspicious.

This isn't my opinion, this is the result of a huge amount of research by a lot of people far more knowledgeable than me. Your results may vary, but this is what I have heard over and over again from a lot of experts.

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DogScout

14 years ago

If you back-linked 40,000 the same day you opened the site, it would probably take Google 90 days to find them all anyway

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Pragun

14 years ago

As Mr Youssu said... you've got to start building up your Link Velocity.
I start off in the first week itself.. with a few backlinks, and then gradually increase them...

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IMKing

14 years ago

Building backlinks is should be never ending process..now a days competition is very high even small niches also getting more competition. So, it is essential to make this process continuous.

Coming to massive building it depends upon the method you have chosen, if you can go directory submissions even if you submit to 1000's of directories in a single day itself there won't much effect because all the directory admins takes some time to approve and also these approved links takes some time to index. So, there won't be any problem.

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ayako01

14 years ago

I guess you can do backlinking after 1 month but you should do basic SEO to generate traffic towards your site much better if you use social bookmarking strategy.

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KhadijahChapman

14 years ago

The key to having a successful site on the internet is to drive traffic to your site. Think in terms of what makes good common sense. I would suggest to begin to build backlinks to your site as soon as you have good content. It wouldn't make sense to create a ton of back links to your site and drive traffic and then have nothing of substance.

The name of this game is to create an income not to just have a piece of real estate on the web...

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raj5151

14 years ago

After upload your site if u make backlinks or bookmarking your site urls then ur site getting indexed in short time by major SEs. I think there is no need any time line.

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halfpoint 14 years ago

As soon as the site is live go for it.
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E. Brian Rose

14 years ago

Originally Posted by learnfromthebest

Just wondering, after you create a new site, how long do you wait to create backlinks?

Is it alright to start building massive backlinks after a week or so?

Start building backlinks right away!

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molsted

14 years ago

Originally Posted by learnfromthebest

Just wondering, after you create a new site, how long do you wait to create backlinks?

Is it alright to start building massive backlinks after a week or so?

I usually do some link building (ping, social bookmarking maybe or put a link or two on another site - think blog comment by hand for instance) untill I'm properly indexed. Then I gradually start building links. Actually, I usually do link building in bulks but with methods such as article marketing, blog comments and forum posts etc so that it all seems natural and organically growing over time.

Works wonders for me.

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Groovystar

14 years ago

I saw a forum go from 0 to PR 4 in only 2 months from backlinks. Far as I can tell, they were never sandboxed and never linked to really high sites either, only a bunch of other 0 to PR 4 sites. Had about 50 of these links and the thing is, when you get a backlink on a forum it is often on all pages of that forum.

I don't see how creating a new website then just waiting around to start backlinking it can help anything. That's even worse than the sandbox, because at least with sandbox you still have those links to bring in targeted hits.

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