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Exact domain for Xfactor/clickbump sites

by ggxx00
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Fellow Warriors,

I learned that exact domains play a vital part for xfactor/clickbump style niche sites. However, how would you define exact domain, consider two keywords "best grill", how does best-grill.com, "the-best-grill.com" perform, as compared to "bestgrill.com"

Thank for sharing your experience.
#domain #exact #sites #xfactor or clickbump
  • Profile picture of the author mrdeflation
    Originally Posted by ggxx00 View Post

    Fellow Warriors,

    I learned that exact domains play a vital part for xfactor/clickbump style niche sites. However, how would you define exact domain, consider two keywords "best grill", how does best-grill.com, "the-best-grill.com" perform, as compared to "bestgrill.com"

    Thank for sharing your experience.
    I would love to know that as well.

    If you cant get the "Exact" domain.... what is the next best option like you said..

    what if all those "bestgrill" keywords are taken... .com/.org.net.info..

    would "10bestgrill" be better than "best4grill" or even "mybestgrill" or "Bestgrillwebsite"????


    Is there even an answer?
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    If bestgrill is taken, move on to another niche.
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    • Profile picture of the author mrdeflation
      Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

      If bestgrill is taken, move on to another niche.
      then you might as well give up IM because every keyword is already taken multiple times..lol
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      • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
        Originally Posted by mrdeflation View Post

        then you might as well give up IM because every keyword is already taken multiple times..lol

        totally disagree...
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      • Profile picture of the author Tom Goodwin
        Originally Posted by mrdeflation View Post

        then you might as well give up IM because every keyword is already taken multiple times..lol
        We aren't talking about trying to get weightloss.com here. We are talking about stuff like littleredlunchbox.com, etc.

        Tons and tons of good EMDs out there.
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        • Profile picture of the author mrdeflation
          Originally Posted by Tom Goodwin View Post

          We aren't talking about trying to get weightloss.com here. We are talking about stuff like littleredlunchbox.com, etc.

          Tons and tons of good EMDs out there.
          yes, I agree 100%...

          I mean it is highly searched keywords are taken imo. If you can find one of those you found a needle in a haystack.

          For micro-niche sure there are some....

          although I must say I havent found anything profitable yet.
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    • Profile picture of the author Boris_yo
      I think if bestgrill.com is taken, take .net and .org versions. If these taken too, take best-grill.com, .net or .org. Google considers dashes as separators.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tom Goodwin
    Originally Posted by ggxx00 View Post

    Fellow Warriors,

    I learned that exact domains play a vital part for xfactor/clickbump style niche sites. However, how would you define exact domain, consider two keywords "best grill", how does best-grill.com, "the-best-grill.com" perform, as compared to "bestgrill.com"

    Thank for sharing your experience.
    Well, since EMD stands for exact match domain, in your example.

    bestgrill.com --> EMD
    bestgrill.org --> EMD
    etc.

    best-grill.com --> NOT EMD
    the-best-grill.com --> Not EMD

    That's not to say that people don't go after the other types of keyword domains, but they aren't EMDs. If your business model is to setup easy and quicky micro niche websites that with good on-page SEO will rank straight out of the gate with little work, then EMD is the only way to go.

    Tom
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    • Profile picture of the author Fraggler
      Originally Posted by Tom Goodwin View Post

      Well, since EMD stands for exact match domain, in your example.

      bestgrill.com --> EMD
      bestgrill.org --> EMD
      etc.

      best-grill.com --> NOT EMD
      the-best-grill.com --> Not EMD

      Tom
      best-grill.com is an EMD. The hyphen is interpreted as a space by Google. I use the hyphen all the time and still get the same benefit.

      Google doesn't even know that bestgrill.com refers to [best grill] and not [be stgr ill] until the on-site SEO gives it relevance.
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      • Profile picture of the author culvers
        Originally Posted by Fraggler View Post

        best-grill.com is an EMD. The hyphen is interpreted as a space by Google. I use the hyphen all the time and still get the same benefit.

        Google doesn't even know that bestgrill.com refers to [best grill] and not [be stgr ill] until the on-site SEO gives it relevance.
        Whilst i agree with your logic, my experience tells me otherwise. It could very well just be coincidence, however everytime I used a hyphen in the domain name, it would be a lot harder to rank my micro niche site, even though it was very low competition
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      • Profile picture of the author Tom Goodwin
        Originally Posted by Fraggler View Post

        best-grill.com is an EMD. The hyphen is interpreted as a space by Google. I use the hyphen all the time and still get the same benefit.

        Google doesn't even know that bestgrill.com refers to [best grill] and not [be stgr ill] until the on-site SEO gives it relevance.
        All I can say is that I tried several hyphenated keywords for micro niche sites when I started out in the adsense game. Not one of them ranked well, whereas all of my non-hyphenated keyword domains almost universally rank well.

        For me,

        hyphens in root domain --> Bad
        hyphens in subdomain on a web 2.0 site or in subfolders or subpages --> Good

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        • Profile picture of the author Reverb
          Originally Posted by Tom Goodwin View Post

          All I can say is that I tried several hyphenated keywords for micro niche sites when I started out in the adsense game. Not one of them ranked well, whereas all of my non-hyphenated keyword domains almost universally rank well.

          For me,

          hyphens in root domain --> Bad
          hyphens in subdomain on a web 2.0 site or in subfolders or subpages --> Good

          Tom
          It's good to hear your take on hyphens in the root domain name. I haven't used a hyphen yet in one of my domains, but I was wondering how they stack up against domains without them. I'll likely continue to stay away from using them. Thanks for the insight.
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  • Profile picture of the author misterkailo
    I have to disagree with Mrdeflation as well because I find 5+ keyword domains that get searched over 2000 exact search per month every single day.

    To answer OP's question, I have tested this myself and the bestgrill dot com domain would have an advantage. With a few backlinks, the hyphenated domain will do just as well. Always keep in mind that you need to write like you are the customer: Can your site really help the person who finds your site?

    A lot of these so-called xfactor/clickbump sites are utter crap and they get banned all the time if you write poor content.
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    • Profile picture of the author culvers
      This is just from my experience, but anything other than exact match domain for this type of site will require ALOT more work to get ranked.

      I now only go after exact match .com .net or .org domains for micro niches. I have tried using extra words, hyphens and numbers, and can say that doing this really makes it a lot more work.

      My advice: only go for exact match! Unless you don't mind doing a fair bit of extra backlinking
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      • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
        Originally Posted by culvers View Post

        This is just from my experience, but anything other than exact match domain for this type of site will require ALOT more work to get ranked.

        I now only go after exact match .com .net or .org domains for micro niches. I have tried using extra words, hyphens and numbers, and can say that doing this really makes it a lot more work.

        My advice: only go for exact match! Unless you don't mind doing a fair bit of extra backlinking
        This has been my experience as well.
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      • Profile picture of the author Tom Goodwin
        Originally Posted by culvers View Post

        This is just from my experience, but anything other than exact match domain for this type of site will require ALOT more work to get ranked.

        I now only go after exact match .com .net or .org domains for micro niches. I have tried using extra words, hyphens and numbers, and can say that doing this really makes it a lot more work.

        My advice: only go for exact match! Unless you don't mind doing a fair bit of extra backlinking
        Agree 100% on all points. Again we are only talking about micro niche where you aren't expecting a huge payday and can't put the effort into ranking them for tougher words.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tom Goodwin
      Originally Posted by misterkailo View Post


      A lot of these so-called xfactor/clickbump sites ... get banned all the time if you write poor content.
      I'm going to have to strongly disagree on the point about content. Not just with respect to xfactor type sites, by web pages in general.

      Its sexy and hip for a lot of people to complain about google "banning", but I just don't see it happening in but very rare circumstances (unless if course you are really doing something devious).

      Yea, there are lots of threads on DP about "My site got banned....oh no"..
      I call BS. Google can and does rank sites with very limited and poorly written content (but with good on-page SEO) quickly and for long periods of time. These are the same guys browsing threads at BHW and asking how to do a double meta refresh to hide the referrer so they can defraud their CPA accounts.

      As for people getting adsense accounts closed, 99% of the time it seems that the site owner was under the impression that a few clicks here and there by himself (as long as he tried to hide/mask his IP), was OK. They just don't get it.
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      • Profile picture of the author culvers
        Originally Posted by Tom Goodwin View Post

        I'm going to have to strongly disagree on the point about content. Not just with respect to xfactor type sites, by web pages in general.

        Its sexy and hip for a lot of people to complain about google "banning", but I just don't see it happening in but very rare circumstances (unless if course you are really doing something devious).

        Yea, there are lots of threads on DP about "My site got banned....oh no"..
        I call BS. Google can and does rank sites with very limited and poorly written content (but with good on-page SEO) quickly and for long periods of time. These are the same guys browsing threads at BHW and asking how to do a double meta refresh to hide the referrer so they can defraud their CPA accounts.

        As for people getting adsense accounts closed, 99% of the time it seems that the site owner was under the impression that a few clicks here and there by himself (as long as he tried to hide/mask his IP), was OK. They just don't get it.
        You sir, have hit the nail right on the head. 100% spot on.

        In my limited time researching micro niches, I have come across some highly ranked poorly written site, but they are ranked because there is no one else writing about "mini popcorn makers" or whatever.
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      • Profile picture of the author misterkailo
        Originally Posted by Tom Goodwin View Post

        I'm going to have to strongly disagree on the point about content. Not just with respect to xfactor type sites, by web pages in general.

        Its sexy and hip for a lot of people to complain about google "banning", but I just don't see it happening in but very rare circumstances (unless if course you are really doing something devious).

        Yea, there are lots of threads on DP about "My site got banned....oh no"..
        I call BS. Google can and does rank sites with very limited and poorly written content (but with good on-page SEO) quickly and for long periods of time. These are the same guys browsing threads at BHW and asking how to do a double meta refresh to hide the referrer so they can defraud their CPA accounts.

        As for people getting adsense accounts closed, 99% of the time it seems that the site owner was under the impression that a few clicks here and there by himself (as long as he tried to hide/mask his IP), was OK. They just don't get it.

        I have reported plenty of crappy sites to Google, and Google usually remove those sites within 48 hours.

        If I am competing the same keyword as the person with crappy content, you bet that site will be gone soon...
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        • Profile picture of the author Tom Goodwin
          Originally Posted by misterkailo View Post

          I have reported plenty of crappy sites to Google, and Google usually remove those sites within 48 hours.

          If I am competing the same keyword as the person with crappy content, you bet that site will be gone soon...

          Then you are worse than pond scum. Just one man's view of course. When will people worry about their own da&n sites and learn how to rank them well.

          Edit: Wow, I just checked out your sites in your sig. I don't think you are in a position to be calling the Google cops on other sites. Where is that "report to google" link now...
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          • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
            Originally Posted by Tom Goodwin View Post

            Then you are worse than pond scum. Just one man's view of course. When will people worry about their own da&n sites and learn how to rank them well.
            QFT!!!!

            /REPLY
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          • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
            Originally Posted by Tom Goodwin View Post

            Then you are worse than pond scum. Just one man's view of course. When will people worry about their own da&n sites and learn how to rank them well.
            Come on. Easy on the name calling. The only way that reporting a site works is if in fact Google agrees with the assessment that its a junk site. If it is a junk site then it deserves to go. He is worrying about his own ranking. He said so.

            Its fine to use various tactics to get your site ranked but theres nothing that says that you cant provide something worthwhile when you do it. If a site owner doesn't then tough cookies.

            Furthermore its a good lesson. Don't just look for domain name and links without content because in the real world if you do bump a site out of position that has been making money and your page is garbage your competitiors will report the site and again if its garbage with nothing to offer you can't claim it isn't fair.
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            • Profile picture of the author Tom Goodwin
              Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

              Come on. Easy on the name calling. The only way that reporting a site works is if in fact Google agrees with the assessment that its a junk site. If it is a junk site then it deserves to go. He is worrying about his own ranking. He said so.

              Its fine to use various tactics to get your site ranked but theres nothing that says that you cant provide something worthwhile when you do it. If a site owner doesn't then tough cookies.

              Furthermore its a good lesson. Don't just look for domain name and links without content because in the real world if you do bump a site out of position that has been making money and your page is garbage your competitiors will report the site and again if its garbage with nothing to offer you can't claim it isn't fair.

              It is a 100% garbage tactic, period, and it is not really debatable. Its like someone complaining to your teacher in 3rd grade that some kid stole your cookie at lunch. Give me a break. Grow up people and deal with your own stuff and be a man/woman.
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              • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
                Originally Posted by Tom Goodwin View Post

                It is a 100% garbage tactic, period, and it is not really debatable.
                That might be true if your writing it made it so but - it doesn't . You really believe that a site owner should sit there and be bumped my some tactic when they know its not a site thats even good for the community? Pish Posh - and then Google who owns the search engine agrees? Weak case.



                Its like someone complaining to your teacher in 3rd grade that some kid stole your cookie at lunch.
                JOhnny shouldn't get his cookie back? (or he msut break the rules and fight in class to get it back? )

                Anyway we all have to learn to live with reality. Google and the wider world often looks at some of the things we do as breaking the rules and manipulating the search results. They have no sympathy for us complaining about others breaking our "don't report Johnny to the principal rules". To the extent that we are willing to break the social conventions they hold to we have no right to complain they should keep ours.

                Just add some decent content people. It aint that hard.
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                • Profile picture of the author Tom Goodwin
                  Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

                  You really believe that a site owner should sit there and be bumped my some tactic when they know its not a site thats even good for the community? .
                  Well, the google algo says it should rank well, right? In any event, to answer you question, it is an absolute yes. The website owner should learn SEO and stop whining. Man up or go home.

                  Hypo:

                  San Diego has a new ordinance that new decks can't extend more than 25 feet from the back of the house. Your neighbor puts up a deck that you you think extends 25 feet, 6 inches.

                  If you report your neighbor for what you think is a violation of the new ordinance, even if the city agrees with you, you deserve to get ridiculed. Heck, I would egg your house. Mind your own business people.
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                  • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
                    Originally Posted by Tom Goodwin View Post


                    San Diego has a new ordinance that new decks can't extend more than 25 feet from the back of the house. Your neighbor puts up a deck that you you think extends 25 feet, 6 inches.

                    If you report your neighbor for what you think is a violation of the new ordinance, even if the city agrees with you, you deserve to get ridiculed. Heck, I would egg your house. Mind your own business people.
                    Bad example. Make it parallel and it destroys your argument pretty badly. If the additional inches causes flooding into my back yard and destroys my wifes garden then yeah he should abide by the ordinance. If he won't hear then of course it should be reported.

                    Point being when it has no impact on my business then fine but if your breaking of the rule causes loss for the other party you can whine till the chickens come home it is his business. You used the tactics to take him out the position he held. Claiming that that isn't his business is an argument from the Twilight Zone.

                    I'm not indicting tactics that we use. I am just a realist. While you are doing things that some people see as shady and the owner of the search engines see as shady you have no leg to stand on to complain for your own morality of not wanting to be reported.

                    Frankly I think the outrage comes because we realize that we can be so easily taken out of competition. No sense in claiming thet he should go learn SEO. The whole world does not subscribe to the tactics we use and very many would categorize black and grey hat as deficient SEO skills. Now if he is in to the same tactics then yeah reporting others for what you do is low.

                    Argue against having to provide good content all you want but if you want to use the tactics we do then its even more important to put some content in. I bet some people do great with xfactor /clickbump sites with good content and have nothing to worry about.
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                    • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
                      Awesome strategy!

                      Instead of doing SEO, I will complain to Google about your content. If that doesn't work, I'll dig through the sites your links are on, and complain about their content.

                      We'll have a deindexing and banning party.
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                      • Profile picture of the author Tom Goodwin
                        Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall View Post

                        Awesome strategy!

                        Instead of doing SEO, I will complain to Google about your content. If that doesn't work, I'll dig through the sites your links are on, and complain about their content.

                        We'll have a deindexing and banning party.

                        Perhaps we could get some new avatars around here. How about what that says "I'm a snitch!" Where i'm from that will guaranty a long life. Unless we are talking about reporting violent crimes or something, snitches just need to get a life.
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                      • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
                        Originally Posted by Tom Goodwin View Post


                        There is absolutely nothing wrong with spun content..
                        Can you clarify that ? Spinning your own content or someone else's? The first is fine but not the second. The quotes posted seem to indicate that you are complaining on behalf of content you didn't even write (and don't ever want to write again apparently). Copyright violation if thats what you mean..
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        • Profile picture of the author c0rv3tt3
          Originally Posted by misterkailo View Post

          I have reported plenty of crappy sites to Google, and Google usually remove those sites within 48 hours.

          If I am competing the same keyword as the person with crappy content, you bet that site will be gone soon...
          Get a life..
          You are what's wrong with people today. It seems no one can mind their own businesses anymore.
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          • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
            Originally Posted by c0rv3tt3 View Post

            Get a life..
            It seems no one can mind their own businesses anymore.
            Well although I would rather beat a site without reporting it he has stated its his site and business he's protecting.

            If I am competing the same keyword as the person with crappy content, you bet that site will be gone soon..
            .

            Its good whenever we talk about the little tricks of the trade to think about adding a little value. Doesn't take much and doesn't hurt to do so. Your competitors are not going to just sit there and take the loss in income. If your site is pure garbage then they have a right (and its business after all. Welcome to the real world). If you put in even a little content then you should be fine.
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  • Profile picture of the author culvers
    it is true most of them are taken, however there are still some out there. Just yesterday i found a 60k and 80k per month exact USA search exact match .org
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    thanks for all the responses!
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    • Profile picture of the author reynaerde
      Just one more bit of picking your brains

      What if you had to choose between best-grill.com and bestgrillhq.com (or sth similar)?
      Or would they both not receive the EMD bonus so it doesn't really matter?
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      • Profile picture of the author culvers
        Originally Posted by reynaerde View Post

        Just one more bit of picking your brains

        What if you had to choose between best-grill.com and bestgrillhq.com (or sth similar)?
        Or would they both not receive the EMD bonus so it doesn't really matter?
        Personally i would abandon that keyword, and move on. If you are prepared to spend a lot of time giving it extra backlinks, then i would go for bestgrillhq.com solely because i dont like hyphens.

        I dont think there is any difference ranking wise between adding a hyphen or an extra word (just from my own experience, not fact based in anyway)
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
    Guys , Guys. You miss the point. You can throw a hissy fit pull out all the names but if the guy wants to do what he wants to do and Google gives him a thanks for doing it (and its their site and so their rules) theres not a thing you can do but live with it or put the content into your sites - clickbump. xfactor or other.

    You can complain all you want that the guy should do SEO. You know what he could say? - You (and me) dont do SEO you link spam and use black hat tricks and deserve to be reported or you couldn't rank with garbage content.

    Put the content in and it makes that argument stick less. Don't, rank a garbage site, close your eyes and dream the fantasy that the other guy just lays down or adapts your philosophy on link spam or high school sense of snitching.

    ain't going to happen.

    Last example. Lets say someone hacks a bunch of sites and gets backlinks. I mean he kills it and ranks you out of a money spot. Gets all kinds of on page High PR solitary one way links you'd have to shell out big bucks for or couldn't get at all. Lets say you can confirm it without a shadow of a doubt.

    You going to go and SEO hack some sites for youself? LOL. Take the loss by his illegal move? Yeah right. You'd be on the horn to Google when the dollars started disappearing in droves. Some people see garbage content and grey hat tactics not all that different so why would they care about you whining about being reported? Live with reality is all I am saying and to everyone else - put in the content and it helps to protect you using ANY (well almost) system.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
      Mike, I'm complaining to the admins here right now, because I think your content is garbage.

      I hope they clean it up.

      With that being said, I don't give a couple of flying rat turds what anyone else does. I don't get paid to be the Internet Police.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tom Goodwin
      Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post


      . Take the loss by his illegal move? Yeah right. You'd be on the horn to Google when the dollars started disappearing in droves.
      No, I absolutely would not snitch to Google. Snitching is snitching. You can make a new hypo again but it won't change the color of its stripes.

      I'll report to Google once Google puts me on their payroll.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
        Originally Posted by Tom Goodwin View Post

        No, I absolutely would not snitch to Google. Snitching is snitching. Bullsh*t move again.
        Pure nonsense. If you report that a site has been hacked you are helping out the site owner that was hacked. Anyway - Whatever. Hissy fits don't stop Google from soliciting and receiving reports. The take away is make good content. If you don't then someone can point at their own treasured - held above all else - ethics in regard to link spam just as you hold for what you call snitching (and they call helping the community).

        As a SEO my client's livelihood is at stake and they want a real world understanding out of me. Crappy sites are more subject to reporting and high school "oh no you snitched" morality doesn't stop people for a second.


        Getting back on topic. Exact domain sites work (as well as not that exact) but don't rely on a magic bullet. Put some good content under that domain. Always helps.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jacob Martus
        Originally Posted by Tom Goodwin View Post

        No, I absolutely would not snitch to Google. Snitching is snitching. You can make a new hypo again but it won't change the color of its stripes.

        I'll report to Google once Google puts me on their payroll.
        Alright...well i have to say it...just because it's old school.

        I got stitches for the snitches and roses for the bit**es....


        Sorry but I had to.

        And either way, content is in the eye of the beholder imo. I do my best with content and I think that it provides value. However, I'm sure that there are some people with sites in my niche who think the content I put up is terrible. Whatever though, its not up to them to decide...and it shouldn't be.

        That is clearly, the most terrible **** I have ever heard. I spent lots of time getting my site to rank and this guy THINKS my content is crap and reports me to Google? WTF is his problem. That's like being a sore loser. "Mom! He won't let me win!!!!". Seriously dude WTF. Grow a pair and take the person on the right way.

        Acting like this is like trying to get something for nothing. And life doesn't give something out for nothing very often.
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        • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
          Originally Posted by Jacob Martus View Post


          That is clearly, the most terrible **** I have ever heard. I spent lots of time getting my site to rank and this guy THINKS my content is crap and reports me to Google?

          Your site will stay right there if he's wrong. If Google agrees then its their property not yours and they decide. Frankly if its as bad as some have just reported in this thread the owner of the sites have it coming. Way too lazy and serves no use to the searcher. Worse if it violates someone's copyright.

          I love graffiti art but sometimes its just not in the right place and needs to be removed. Call up the clean up crew. You ain't got the right to deface a publicly used facility. NO one gets arrested. the garbage just gets removed. When its really bad useless and lazy garbage content needs to be taken out to the trash. Too bad . So sad.
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          • Profile picture of the author Jacob Martus
            Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

            Your site will stay right there if he's wrong. If Google agrees then its their property not yours and they decide. Frankly if its as bad as some have just reported in this thread the owner of the sites have it coming. Way too lazy and serves no use to the searcher. Worse if it violates someone's copyright.

            I love graffiti art but sometimes its just not in the right place and needs to be removed. Call up the clean up crew. You ain't got the right to deface a publicly used facility. NO one gets arrested. the garbage just gets removed. When its really bad useless and lazy garbage content needs to be taken out to the trash. Too bad . So sad.
            Toushe (or however that is spelled)

            I just thought it was worth saying that most people that go religiously using these report buttons are worrying too much about things out of their control and need to put more focus on things they can...like building more backlinks.

            The person that is constantly reporting people probably isn't focusing enough on their self. That'll never get anyone ahead.
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            • Profile picture of the author Micawbr
              Just to throw in my two cents... after looking at over 1,600 xfactor sites, I've found that the only ones ranking on page one or two of Google are exact match (ie. keywordphrase.com). No hyphens, no extra words.
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  • Profile picture of the author misterkailo
    lol Tom my two sites in my sig are just old crap that I am waiting for them to expire. Not renewing those domains as I am no longer putting my time on Clickbank products.

    I'm not being an internet police. I am just doing myself a huge favor because now one of my Xfactor site is making over $4-5 per day after my competitor was removed.

    Competitor was pretty much writing something like "Are you looking for pink umbrella? I like the color pink and I love to use umbrellas when it rains..."
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    • Profile picture of the author culvers
      I gotta say, i have seen quite a few of those:

      Are you looking for a popcorn maker? I like eating popcorn when i watch a movie. Sometimes i invite my friends round to watch movies with me. It reminds me of the time my friend joe watched a movie with me and ate loads of popcorn then he felt sick! But you can eat popcorn any time of the day. my favourite movie is jaws.

      and this goes on until 500 words is reached.

      I mean, how hard is it to write some information about how popcorn makers work, some product descriptions of a few of them most popular makers, their main benefits etc
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by unlimitedsubmissions View Post

      Oh wait, you hit a button on TBS and it's your content now. I forgot.
      Hey hit the report button right back on Google. You dont get a free pass to cheat and steal people's content. I draw the line there. Anyone can whine all they want. Not in my clients niches. You are toast.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tom Goodwin
      For easiest road, I would go with keyword.com, keyword,.net or keyword.org, as those will make your job a whole lot easier.

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  • Profile picture of the author Tom Goodwin
    Originally Posted by driller000 View Post

    "bestgrill.com" i think it is best
    One other possibility to just throw out there. I personally don't have any sites like this, but...

    If one was going after say, rapalbum.com, and it was taken, you could try and get:

    www-rapalbum.com (yes, with the hyphen).

    Then, simply set up your site without the "www", so your web address is:

    http://www-rapalbum.com


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  • Profile picture of the author Clyde
    Tom, I have no problem with people building link farms, spinning content etc.

    I only have a problem with ignorant neighbors. It just happened that my parents went through a lot of troubles because a neighbor thought he can do whatever he wanted with his house. It has turned off a lot of buyers and brought the real estate value of the entire neighborhood down. The neighbor had to tear his house down in the end.

    That is all. Thanks for editing your post. I'm outtie to snitch on some xfactor sites lol.. j/k.

    Moving on.
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  • Profile picture of the author DNChamp
    Hyphens are OK to a point. WHen it comes to the domain you can use ANY really and just do a hell of a lot SEO to it. However if your making a site to be serious AND looking at a long haul, always having the EXACT or very close EXAXT domain is the key.

    In case in point BestGrill is really weak as a domain for Grills. Grill.com or even a long tail keyword match CookingGrill.com would be ok. Dont short change yourself when it comes to the domain. Again if you dont care great, if you do get the best (and if the best is taken in .com change your niche OR get the next best keyword)
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  • Profile picture of the author ogm
    Just my 2 cents here,

    but you want the main target keyword to be first in the domain.

    For example: GrillHQ is better then BestGrill, if grill is your main keyword.
    Suffix is better then Prefix. For example BestGrillUK is better then MyBestGrill
    The concept is called "keyword prominence".

    As for hyphens, they don't really matter except for returning visitors factor. Hard for people to remember. Search engines don't care. Its actually easier for them to understand the domain name.
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