I made a sale to an offline client!!!

by Edge88
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So today I made a pre-sale to an offline client. We haven't agreed on the final price yet but it will be around 500-700 Dollars (I know it's kind of cheap but it's my first client). I told him I could help him rank in the top three positions for "city name business type." He is very interested, and it doens't look that competitive to me.

Only problem is I don't actually know how to rank him. I am extremely new to local search SEO and have been away from regular SEO for a little while. So I come here for help! if any warriors would be kind enough to teach me, or at least point me in the right direction, that would be great. I would even consider sharing some of the money (say 200 dollars) I make on this client with a very helpful warrior.

Thanks guys
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  • Profile picture of the author Mikedb
    Hi,

    just send me a PM with the keyword and the city.
    I will take a look.
    The best part is that you can guarantee him a #1

    Think I'm joking?
    We will see.
    One tip: Reinvest what you make!

    Regards,

    Mike
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    • Profile picture of the author tferraro11
      Originally Posted by Mikedb View Post

      Hi,

      One tip: Reinvest what you make!

      Regards,

      Mike

      This is a great tip Mike mentioned. You will keep your clients and get more for long term if you do.

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  • Profile picture of the author Edge88
    Mike,

    Thanks a lot for being willing to help! I just checked my PMs but do not have any new messages.

    I'm PMing you my AIM and MSN, add me if you'd like. and yes, I would totally reinvest what I made once I learned this trade.

    Thanks again,

    Ed

    Edit: I just reread your post. You asked me for a PM not the other way around. I'll send you another PM right now with the city and keyword, it looks uncompetitive at the moment, but again I'm don't know what to look for to begin with.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mikedb
    Hi Ed,

    just send me a PM with the keyword and city and we take it from there

    Regards,

    Mike
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    • Profile picture of the author blissk
      Congrats. There some good WSOs here and one free one from Tim Castleman on local seo. Check it out.

      How you find the client?
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  • Profile picture of the author bigcat1967
    I told him I could help him rank in the top three positions for "city name business type."
    Maybe I'm on a different planet - but from what I do with my clients is that I never promise them that I can rank them on the first page. That's a big no-no in the SEO-client world.

    The thing you should be after is - will this be the right niche for him? Let's say you rank him in the top three - but it isn't really targeted traffic? Then what? Your client's bounce rate will be high and you will have very little conversions.

    You have to follow up w/ your client to make sure conversions are coming his way.

    Not trying to be mean - but I just designed a website for a lawyer and I'm optimizing his site for "bankruptcy attorney [city name]" - also local. One of the first things I said was that I can't and will not promise any client a first page ranking. However, I will help you increase your traffic by promoting your website through various means and work with increasing conversions via targeted traffic.

    However, with that said, and since this is your first one - I really do wish you luck. I hope you make a ton of money with your future clients. I remember my first client - it was rocky. I've learned a lot since then - and you to, will learn a lot.

    btw...I love your enthusiasm.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dana Goetz
    Hi Ed,

    I have a short cut using video to get your client ranked for their keyword. If you are interested just pm me and I will go over the details with you. Dana
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    • Profile picture of the author junkdna
      Originally Posted by Dana Goetz View Post

      Hi Ed,

      I have a short cut using video to get your client ranked for their keyword. If you are interested just pm me and I will go over the details with you. Dana
      Dana, would you share your tip publicly. I tried to PM you, but I am still forum newbie, far away from 50 posts.
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      • Profile picture of the author Dana Goetz
        Junkdna, I sent you a pm if you don't get the message let me know and i will sent it to you through email.
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    Only problem is I don't actually know how to rank him.
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    • Profile picture of the author warriorkay
      Originally Posted by jasonmorgan View Post


      Hilarious,

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      Originally Posted by jasonmorgan View Post

      hehehehe I literally laugh
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      • Profile picture of the author Voasi
        I can't stand this. This is why the SEO community has such a bad name. So many scam artists and people willing to take money: not knowing what they're doing and how to do it.

        If you were to do this right, I'd take $400 of that and get a professional in there and do it right and you can be the "agency" behind it.
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        • Profile picture of the author Edge88
          Maybe I should point out that I mentioned that I am not new to IM completely. I'm new to offline.

          Even though I have not been here a while I have experience from plenty of reading here and a lot of implementing, I've seen first hand how tough it is to rank in organic. Offline is new, and so is google maps, which is the only thing I asked for help in this post. My dentist actually knows about SEO and I was able to sale to him, so I gotta know enough. And I offered him 100% money back if I cant achieve what I promised.

          Finally it is a GREAT business strategy to sell a product before you even make it if you are confident enough that you can deliver the value (just ask any entrepreneur). There are numerous advantages to that. One being the money upfront to pay for expenses such as WSOs, outsourcing and just kicking things off. Other that it makes sure you actually implement it now, you better do it or give the money back.
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          • Profile picture of the author Edge88
            Originally Posted by GeorgR. View Post

            No he wont. Because he has not the slightest idea of SEO.
            Bro, what part of

            Originally Posted by Edge88 View Post

            Maybe I should point out that I mentioned that I am not new to IM completely. I'm new to offline.

            Even though I have not been here a while I have experience from plenty of reading here and a lot of implementing, I've seen first hand how tough it is to rank in organic.
            did you not understand???

            I have SEO experience, I was just new to google places, which from what I learned is much easier than organic results in general.

            As an example, I've created my own product and I'm in the process of marketing it, but my market is in another country. I also made my own script which placed hundreds of forum profile backlinks within an hour or so with one click of a button, I outsourced the creation of the profiles, and one week later my script would get to work. But it's pretty rough around the edges. And I've since realized how uneffective that was for me and that it was spamming, so I'm laying off the forum profiles unless I need to.

            And no, I don't need your paypal account. That's extremely basic info, again ur assuming I know nothing about SEO.

            Oh well, thanks for the encouragement. I'll get back to you when I've succeeded, meeting with my client Tuesday after memorial day.
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            • Profile picture of the author McBrett
              Edge88 Congratulations on your first client. Honestly, I wouldn't be too worried about ranking for a city - service keywords unless you're living in Los Angeles, New York, or some other major metro.

              It's still VERY easy to rank with very simple on-page SEO for local keywords. If you take the time to build a few links, even better.

              One recommendation I would make is to keep your new clients expectations in check. For example, you don't want him thinking he'll be on page one for this keyword after 7 days for example. Make sure you let him know it could be a 3 - 6 months until you're able to achieve these rankings--even though you'll likely be able to accomplish it much sooner.

              Under promise over deliver. Good luck growing your business!
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              • Profile picture of the author Edge88
                Originally Posted by McBrett View Post

                Edge88 Congratulations on your first client. Honestly, I wouldn't be too worried about ranking for a city - service keywords unless you're living in Los Angeles, New York, or some other major metro.

                It's still VERY easy to rank with very simple on-page SEO for local keywords. If you take the time to build a few links, even better.

                One recommendation I would make is to keep your new clients expectations in check. For example, you don't want him thinking he'll be on page one for this keyword after 7 days for example. Make sure you let him know it could be a 3 - 6 months until you're able to achieve these rankings--even though you'll likely be able to accomplish it much sooner.

                Under promise over deliver. Good luck growing your business!
                Thanks for the advice. Yeah I'm not in any big city, and from what I've seen there is no SEO competition. And I gave timeframe of about 3 months in my proposal. And I like your mottor under promise over deliver. I'm pretty confident I will be over delivering.
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                • Profile picture of the author McBrett
                  Perfect. You've put yourself in the ideal situation. I definitely made the mistake of not communicating time frames for success with some of my early clients so you're ahead of the game in my opinion.
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                  • Profile picture of the author Edge88
                    Originally Posted by McBrett View Post

                    Perfect. You've put yourself in the ideal situation. I definitely made the mistake of not communicating time frames for success with some of my early clients so you're ahead of the game in my opinion.
                    Thanks for the encouragement. I gave such timeframe based on advice from fellow warrior Mikebd on this thread. And because unlike when I first started with SEO I knew that google can be a b@&$h
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        • Profile picture of the author rajuthan
          Originally Posted by Voasi View Post

          I can't stand this. This is why the SEO community has such a bad name. So many scam artists and people willing to take money: not knowing what they're doing and how to do it.

          If you were to do this right, I'd take $400 of that and get a professional in there and do it right and you can be the "agency" behind it.
          lol professional?


          Just buy a domain with the cityname+niche

          So example NewYorkPizza.com and submit it to a top social site and it will get ranked on google since its not a competitive niche
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  • Profile picture of the author epiphanypoo
    Congratulations. I, of course being so new, can't help you..but I like hearing of your success!

    ep
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  • Profile picture of the author progex
    Don't forget about Google local listings too and good job with the offline sale! Those are a rarity these days.
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    • Profile picture of the author Edge88
      Originally Posted by bigcat1967 View Post

      Maybe I'm on a different planet - but from what I do with my clients is that I never promise them that I can rank them on the first page. That's a big no-no in the SEO-client world.

      The thing you should be after is - will this be the right niche for him? Let's say you rank him in the top three - but it isn't really targeted traffic? Then what? Your client's bounce rate will be high and you will have very little conversions.

      You have to follow up w/ your client to make sure conversions are coming his way.

      Not trying to be mean - but I just designed a website for a lawyer and I'm optimizing his site for "bankruptcy attorney [city name]" - also local. One of the first things I said was that I can't and will not promise any client a first page ranking. However, I will help you increase your traffic by promoting your website through various means and work with increasing conversions via targeted traffic.

      However, with that said, and since this is your first one - I really do wish you luck. I hope you make a ton of money with your future clients. I remember my first client - it was rocky. I've learned a lot since then - and you to, will learn a lot.

      btw...I love your enthusiasm.
      Thanks,

      First of all I am talking about Google maps (Google places/local SEO w/e it is called). And my client is a dentist. so "City Name dentist" has got to be the right niche for him. furthermore once I have succesfully delivered on "City Name Dentist" Then I will try "City Name Cosmetic dentistry" and so on for other relevant keywords. I am not ranking his website, I am ranking his Google places listing.

      Originally Posted by progex View Post

      Don't forget about Google local listings too and good job with the offline sale! Those are a rarity these days.
      Yeah like I mentioned, that's what I am focusing on, for local business owners such as dentist, doctor, pizzeria, dry cleaners, this is their gold mine. My dentist revealed to me that he makes 60k dollars in revenues from a 1/4 add on the yellow pages, imagine what he will earn from a top Google places listing...

      And in regards to making the sale without knowing exactly what I am doing, I know it's funny, but hey its a great strategy. I know it's doable, and with money upfront and a 3 month timeframe, I will certainly be able to rank him in Google places.

      Thanks for the feeback, keep em coming!!

      Edge
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  • Profile picture of the author Jody_W
    Did you check the number of searches on city name + dentist? You might be able to get him to the top of the listings but it won't do anything for his business if there isn't any traffic.
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    • Profile picture of the author Edge88
      Yes,

      1600 monthly local searches... I guarantee that's a heck of a lot more than the yellow pages.

      Ed
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  • Profile picture of the author april_forshee
    well, you should never promise a client, that's right. WHat if something goes wrong???
    But if you are so confident, I wsh you good luck and SEO is really needed.
    Cheers,

    April
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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
    COME ON!!

    You are offering a service and admit you have no clue. What SEO are you telling him you can rank him but then go to a forum and ask how to do this? This is a little weak....

    Finally it is a GREAT business strategy to sell a product before you even make it if you are confident enough that you can deliver the value (just ask any entrepreneur).
    Not the way how you did it. If you were only halfway professional you had at least some guy hired already where you know he does a good job. And, by the way, its NOT that easy to find someone. You are the best example. People offering their services and making unsubstantiated claims.
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    • Profile picture of the author Edge88
      Originally Posted by GeorgR. View Post

      COME ON!!

      You are offering a service and admit you have no clue. What SEO are you telling him you can rank him but then go to a forum and ask how to do this? This is a little weak....



      Not the way how you did it. If you were only halfway professional you had at least some guy hired already where you know he does a good job. And, by the way, its NOT that easy to find someone. You are the best example. People offering their services and making unsubstantiated claims.
      " You are the best example. People offering their services and making unsubstantiated "

      Watch me
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      • Profile picture of the author junkdna
        Dana, thanks for the info. I can not PM you, I am still under 50 posts limit.
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        • Profile picture of the author Dana Goetz
          Junkdna, no worries I just sent you my email address. Hold on Edge your in for a bumpy ride.
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    Search for JosephA, he is a warrior within this forum. Look at his "40 Day" post within the SEO section, that has thousands of little nuggets on how to rank for any keywords. His entire thread is literally experimenting and finding out what works and what doesn't.
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  • Profile picture of the author OpticalOut
    Hah, you sold them and you don't know how to do SEO? Not a good idea. I actually ranked some example pages just for the sheer fact of doing my own testing before getting clients way back.

    Local search is usually fairly non-competitive in most markets if you are in a smaller city. However, you could be in a big city and up for a fight with established websites.

    Based on the price, I would say that you are going to have an easy job ranking.
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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
    No he wont. Because he has not the slightest idea of SEO.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tony Fox
    I find this post amusing. Good luck Edge, your reputation is depending on it.
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    • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
      And, by the way, here is how you do it:


      1) If not already, sign up at Google for a "local business listing".
      You will put your business into Google maps. The result is that your client will pop up #1 (if he's lucky) in a local search like "Chicago Concert Tickets"

      It is important you use the LOCATION name, his city and then whatever product he is offering.

      This method does NOT work with all kinds of products/services....it depends what he is offering and whether a search "<LOCATION> (Keyword)" makes sense. Eg. "Chicago SEO Software" is unlikely to work.

      Think "brick and mortar business" <----

      Use a good domain name, if possible LOCATIONproduct.com etc.

      Use keyword in business description and Google biz listing name, eg. Chicago Concert Tickets

      Verify phone number. If not in the states use Skype phone number. YOU NEED TO HAVE A LOCAL PHONE NR. in that city! You can purchase a skype phone nr. easily for certain cities.

      Once approved...its likely he will appear on #1 in Google with a MAP and business listing for his listing if someone searches on Google for XYZ product <Location> or <Location> XYZ product

      I think there's another method also but thats the one i know.

      Do you need my paypal?

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  • Profile picture of the author TVChatten
    Jesus Christ people, don't bash the guy. He made his first sale and now he's ready to move on to the next part of the process which is SEO...give him a break he never called himself an expert or an offline professional.

    Edge, first I want to say congrats. You've done MORE than I have (I did the Flippa approach *sigh*) and I've been doing this since Dec. of 09. Anyways, I'll give you some SEO help, but first if I may ask, are you using WordPress or did you actually create the site from scratch?

    Btw, I'm not helping you for the money either, I'm helping you b/c that's just what I do.
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    • Profile picture of the author Edge88
      Originally Posted by TVChatten View Post


      .....Edge, first I want to say congrats. You've done MORE than I have (I did the Flippa approach *sigh*) and I've been doing this since Dec. of 09. Anyways, I'll give you some SEO help, but first if I may ask, are you using WordPress or did you actually create the site from scratch?

      Btw, I'm not helping you for the money either, I'm helping you b/c that's just what I do.

      Thank you!! That's how I see it. I made a sale that I can deliver. To answer your question. Neither, he already has a website, I'm going to tweak his on site SEO but it already has decent on page SEO that he did himself. However his backlinking is WEAK. But just with on page SEO he is already in the 11th position.

      Futhermore I'm ranking him on local results, which I'm new to but already learned a lot, and am 100% confident I'll be able to deliver. I already know how to do it but will be buying a WSO, and I'm setting things up so that I find many more clients this summer.
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    • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
      Originally Posted by TVChatten View Post

      Jesus Christ people, don't bash the guy. He made his first sale and now he's ready to move on to the next part of the process which is SEO...give him a break he never called himself an expert or an offline professional.

      Edge, first I want to say congrats. You've done MORE than I have (I did the Flippa approach *sigh*) and I've been doing this since Dec. of 09. Anyways, I'll give you some SEO help, but first if I may ask, are you using WordPress or did you actually create the site from scratch?

      Btw, I'm not helping you for the money either, I'm helping you b/c that's just what I do.
      He was offering a service to someone, telling him he can rank him high in Google - but admitted he has no idea how to do it.

      The problem is that the forums are full with such people claiming to be SEOs (or writers or what the heck else), some even charge PREMIUM for whatever they offer - and (excuse me) basing their sales letters and posts more or less on lies.

      I do NOT go on a forum and write i can rank people #1 in Google in 3 days, neither do i make a WSO where i say people make $5000 in 24 hours..without the slightest grounds for my claims! Sorry, not cool!

      I understand his excitement and that he got a customer, just saying next time he might want to go a different and better thought out route before offering some service where someone else PAYS for it, often in advance.
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      • Profile picture of the author TVChatten
        Originally Posted by GeorgR. View Post

        He was offering a service to someone, telling him he can rank him high in Google - but admitted he has no idea how to do it.

        The problem is that the forums are full with such people claiming to be SEOs (or writers or what the heck else), some even charge PREMIUM for whatever they offer - and (excuse me) basing their sales letters and posts more or less on lies.

        I do NOT go on a forum and write i can rank people #1 in Google in 3 days, neither do i make a WSO where i say people make $5000 in 24 hours..without the slightest grounds for my claims! Sorry, not cool!

        I understand his excitement and that he got a customer, just saying next time he might want to go a different and better thought out route before offering some service where someone else PAYS for it, often in advance.
        I'm glad that's how you do it, but we are talking about someone different...not you. He explained to me in a PM that he did know how to do SEO but just didn't know a certain part of SEO on what to do, just like he explained a few posts ago how he was trying to get it within the local businesses on Google.
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      • Profile picture of the author Biggy Fat
        Originally Posted by GeorgR. View Post

        He was offering a service to someone, telling him he can rank him high in Google - but admitted he has no idea how to do it.

        The problem is that the forums are full with such people claiming to be SEOs (or writers or what the heck else), some even charge PREMIUM for whatever they offer - and (excuse me) basing their sales letters and posts more or less on lies.

        I do NOT go on a forum and write i can rank people #1 in Google in 3 days, neither do i make a WSO where i say people make $5000 in 24 hours..without the slightest grounds for my claims! Sorry, not cool!

        I understand his excitement and that he got a customer, just saying next time he might want to go a different and better thought out route before offering some service where someone else PAYS for it, often in advance.
        The moral of this story here is this, people: STAY AWAY from offline consulting!

        If you don't know what you're doing, don't go out to offline customers telling him you can get him on page one of Google, then come to the forum and ask just how to do it. Way too damn shady to tell you the truth.
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        • Profile picture of the author TVChatten
          Originally Posted by Biggy Fat View Post

          The moral of this story here is this, people: STAY AWAY from offline consulting!

          If you don't know what you're doing, don't go out to offline customers telling him you can get him on page one of Google, then come to the forum and ask just how to do it. Way too damn shady to tell you the truth.
          Moral of the story is to read all the posts before commenting and actually talking with the OP before coming to some conclusion. He needed help listing the business on Google Places...not with just SEO in general.
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          • Profile picture of the author Biggy Fat
            Originally Posted by TVChatten View Post

            Moral of the story is to read all the posts before commenting and actually talking with the OP before coming to some conclusion. He needed help listing the business on Google Places...not with just SEO in general.
            And even then he shouldn't have made a thread on how to do that - he should already know if he went out and guaranteed an offline business owner a first page listing.

            OP, I'm not hating or knocking on you in particular, this is just in general. Telling someone you can do something then asking others how to do it is shady, especially when there is money involved.

            Example: I offer to teach someone how to train their dog. They pay me. Then I go to someone and ask them how can I train a dog. You see the shadiness in that?
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            • Profile picture of the author McBrett
              @BiggyFat I see where you're going with this one, but everyone's got to start somewhere.

              I think you're being a bit harsh. Plus, Edge88 is only charging a few hundred bucks for services. Def not ripping the guy off.
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            • Profile picture of the author Edge88
              Originally Posted by Biggy Fat View Post

              Example: I offer to teach someone how to train their dog. They pay me. Then I go to someone and ask them how can I train a dog. You see the shadiness in that?
              I didn't offer to teach how to train the dog, I offered to actually train the dog. So No, I really don't see the shadiness in that. As long as you deliver a trained dog, meet exectations and deadlines there is absolutely nothing shady about that. If you're doing it money back guaranteed then it's even further from being shady. If you know the dog can be trained, and you know you will be able to learn then you are just being the middleman, there's a lot of business in being the middleman (just as there is in eliminating the middleman). You should look into it.

              You have to make a sale when you have the opportunity. You cannot argue that I won't be able to deliver what I promissed. I gave myself 3 months timeframe. So I still don't see why 2 or 3 people are getting so upset. (not that you seem upset, but if you look back some people were pissed lol)

              Edge
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  • Profile picture of the author websitemrktg
    I say good for you~! Everyone needs to start somewhere and you get a live customer to work with. Life is short, take some risks. Your offering the guy a guarantee. Which means he risks nothing and you get some great experience.
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    Congrats on your 1st sale.
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  • Profile picture of the author Glenn Leader
    One thing I would recommend, and this is
    something I do. Build websites before you
    have clients in offline niches where the
    Adsense payout is quite big, $10/click or
    better. Get them ranking well, and keep
    maintaining those listings for a few months.

    You can then rent those sites to local
    businesses, and make more profits. Just
    replace the Adsense unit with a powerful
    call to action for the business renting the
    site. You will still own the websites, so
    you can find new clients easily if you have
    problems with a client.

    The only problems I faced (sometimes) is
    that I generated too much business for
    one small business. I'm now going to put a
    rotate script on that site, so that it slows
    down how much business I generate, and
    I'm able to rent to several businesses at
    the same time, at reduced rates. Any
    slack can be taken up with Adsense.

    HTH

    Glenn
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  • Profile picture of the author Titans
    Originally Posted by Edge88 View Post

    So today I made a pre-sale to an offline client. I told him I could help him rank in the top three positions...... for &quot;city name business type.&quot; He is very interested, and it doens't look that competitive to me.

    Only problem is I don't actually know how to rank him. I am extremely new to local search SEO and have been away from regular SEO for a little while. So I come here for help!
    So basically you are just selling crap (skill sets) you don't have.

    Originally Posted by Edge88 View Post

    Thank you!! That's how I see it. I made a sale that I can deliver. To answer your question. Neither, he already has a website, I'm going to tweak his on site SEO but it already has decent on page SEO that he did himself. However his backlinking is WEAK. But just with on page SEO he is already in the 11th position.
    Originally Posted by Edge88 View Post

    Maybe I should point out that I mentioned that I am not new to IM completely. I'm new to offline.
    WTF is this BS about "offline"? If you're going to do SEO for his website then that is ONLINE. Google is an online search engine, if you want to rank anything on it then it's online. Everything you do to rank the listing is going to be done online. Stop making stuff up.

    Originally Posted by Edge88 View Post

    Futhermore I'm ranking him on local results, which I'm new to but already learned a lot, and am 100% confident I'll be able to deliver. I already know how to do it but will be buying a WSO, and I'm setting things up so that I find many more clients this summer.
    You just said I don't actually know how to rank him, and shortly after you said I already know how to do it but will be buying a WSO, so what is it? either you know or you don't.

    You need to realize you're just a clueless middleman pretending to be "the guy", another word you're just a fake driven by delusion, what you did is first you lied to yourself, then when you're 100% convinced you sell the same lie to someone else, yeah good luck on that business model.

    Meanwhile, I heard that there is this Nigerian prince that is telling everyone he is 100% confident he'll send you millions of dollars if you help him move his money, he already knows how to do it, are you interested?
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    • Profile picture of the author Edge88
      Originally Posted by Titans View Post

      ...

      WTF is this BS about "offline"? If you're going to do SEO for his website then that is ONLINE. Google is an online search engine, if you want to rank anything on it then it's online. Everything you do to rank the listing is going to be done online. Stop making stuff up.
      to answer your question, by "offline" I mean Google Places. I was asking for Google Places specifically. I'm sure I mentioned it in the thread after the original post

      Originally Posted by Titans View Post


      You just said I don't actually know how to rank him, and shortly after you said I already know how to do it but will be buying a WSO, so what is it? either you know or you don't.

      I guess I don't know exactly, but like I said I learned a lot and will be getting a WSO. sorry, didn't realise my posts would be scrutinised word for word trying to catch me at fault somewhere.

      Originally Posted by Titans View Post


      You need to realize you're just a clueless middleman pretending to be "the guy", another word you're just a fake driven by delusion, what you did is first you lied to yourself, then when you're 100% convinced you sell the same lie to someone else, yeah good luck on that business model
      Woah, When I wrote my signature I knew I would be taking action and kicking ass, but I never though I would actually be taking names. It's pretty annoying, but it really is just motivation. I'm not scamming anyone, the reference to the "Nigerian Prince" scam is pretty rough. I offered 100% money back guarantee, so F**K off.

      Edge
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      • Profile picture of the author LiquidSeo
        Edge,

        Good luck and congrats with your client.

        If you need some technical assistance with organic SEO on his site, I would be glad to help you for no fee. Feel free to PM me.

        I agree with many of the above posters, Google Places is not complicated, but don't expect your client will break into the top 3 / 7-pak right away. There are lots of factors - citations, completeness of profile, business location, etc. that can affect this. It's all about setting expectations properly.
        In small towns, you can realisticly crack the 3/7 pak in days, while as several previous posters indicated in large urban markets it is much more competitive.

        I joined WF to learn more creative ideas on how to get customers. I'm definitely getting lots of ideas from here. I would be happy to give back and assist if you find that you need very specific local SEO tips/tricks. Just let me know.

        Thanks,

        Brian
        Peachtree SEO – Atlanta SEO and Social Media Marketing – Peachtree City Newnan PeachtreeSEO
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      • Profile picture of the author Dana Goetz
        Told you Edge, you were in for a rough ride. I am sorry that some warriors have nothing better to do then to bash you. No worries though, you know that you are going to provide the best value you can to your new client and that is all that matters. Only the client will decide whether or not it serves them best or not.

        All you asked for was a little help and there is nothing wrong with that. No need to defend yourself it is just a waste of your time and energy. We would love to hear your success story when you are finished.

        Dana
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  • Profile picture of the author kla
    very inspiring, congratulation with your client, have more clients to come =)
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  • Profile picture of the author RandyRandola
    How did things go? It's been 3 months.

    Do you have a screen shot of your results?
    This is the proof (not that you need to) to quiet the mob.
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