How Does a 4 Hour Old Hub Page Rank Higher Then The site I'm linking It Too?

by Winlin
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Heres a situation I find interesting:

I've been working on Blog Niche site for the past 2 weeks that began ranking at about the 30th page for the keyword search.

I have since moved it up to being a solid 7 and 8th on the second page. Of course I'm targeting page one and ultimately spot #1.

Happy with the results so far , but when I added a Hub page this morning to send a back link to my site. I find 4 hrs later hub page I wrote to use to link to my site was two spots higher than my actual site>

Have you experienced this also? Is this typical? I'm I beating myself by developing my own competition?

Best regards,
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  • Profile picture of the author JustKid
    Your not beating yourself down when your own hubpage is going to link back to your main site in the first place.
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  • Profile picture of the author csmcmanus
    I have experienced the same thing. we were doing work for a transmission place and were having a hard time coming around the corner to first page ( p2p1) so we made a hub page with relative content and to my surprise we got bumped down a spot. Hub went to first page, we went to p2p2. It stayed there for a good amount of time too...so I took it down and wouldn't you know it, we then went round the corner.

    I understand alot of what the internet marketers say about doing hubs and ezines and stuff, but my experience has been that hub will beat out my work anyday. Just because of the age and traffic. But the upside is if done well, the hub is a good link to have, even if it takes your spot on p1
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  • Profile picture of the author timpears
    It is pretty simple really. Hubpages has a high PR for the domain. So the PR flows to any page you build on their site. It is not uncommon for Hubpages pages to rank high very quickly.

    But, keep building them links and you will move up sooner or later.
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  • Profile picture of the author dndoseller
    Yes, with digg. That is why I always change my titles and keywords a bit on the sites I am using for backlinks.
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    • Profile picture of the author Winlin
      Originally Posted by dndoseller View Post

      Yes, with digg. That is why I always change my titles and keywords a bit on the sites I am using for backlinks.
      Perfect workaround....

      Thank You
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  • Profile picture of the author jasonl70
    One of google's patents talks about re-ordering the search results when this happens, potentialy boosting the 'pointed to' site over the site pointing to it. So in theory, this should not be the 'norm'. Of course, nothing google does is that cut-and-dry though.

    Here's how I handle this when I want to make sure this does not happen. I build my web2.0 sites around different keywords then my main site, so they do not compete directly with each other in the serps.
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  • Profile picture of the author Midas3 Consulting
    2.0's will often outrank your own site, they simply have vastly
    more trust than your site.

    That said, Google often throws something in the mix quite high
    up, then it settles down within a week.

    I often see it with document sharing sites as well.
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    • Profile picture of the author FranksToys
      As others have stated, it's the PageRank of the domain that you posted on as well as the TrustRank of that domain.

      Simply because you are linking from your Hubpages to your other money site doesn't mean that you will outrank it. Giving it time, and building links correctly will allow you to eventually overcome it.

      Keep up the backlinks to your money site, or optimize your hubpages to make it your "money" site.
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  • Profile picture of the author azmom07
    the fact that its a new hub makes it rank high...if you dont build enough backlinks for your hubpage, it will eventually lose its rank when it ages...at least thats based from my experience,
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    • Profile picture of the author jasonl70
      A lot of new web2.0 pages rank high because the new pages pop up on prominent high pr pages of the hosting site.. when they get pushed off those pages by newer posts/pages/hubs/etc, they lose that 'boost' and start to fall in the SERP's.
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