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Why Is an Article I Submitted As a Backlink Outranking the Original?

by rbf738
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I submitted an edited article (several edited articles) with backlinks pointing to an Ezine article of mine from awhile back just a few days ago to Articles Snatch. It's now outranking the original Ezine article which I'm backlinking to. Is this part of google's honeymoon and caffeine getting it on together and that article will likely disappear in the next few days? What's wrong with the universe?! That's very disheartening to me when I thought I was building the strength of that original Ezine article. Sigh.
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  • Profile picture of the author paulgl
    I can't fathom your post. It's hard to follow what site you are upset
    at. Ezine or your own.

    Since the articles are not the same, why would you think the rankings
    have anything to do with each other? Maybe you did a better job
    on the new one???????????

    I still have trouble following the post.

    There is a freshness factor, but still, who cares? Why did you backlink
    to EZA? Backlink to your own site!!!

    You don't build strength of another article by writing yet another article
    that's basically the same.

    What's the point? You think something magical is going happen?
    And when it doesn't, you get upset at google?

    I'm just not sure what you are upset about. *sigh*

    Indeed, what IS wrong with the universe???????

    I have never built backlinks to an EZA article. I'm trying to come with
    a valid reason for doing so, but I can't. EZA's job is building backlinks
    for ME!

    Here's an idea. Why not edit the EZA and backlink to the new article?
    That'll show em! The two article sites are then going to be playing
    backlink tag with your article.

    Paul
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  • Profile picture of the author smplylvn
    I tried building backlinks to my original EZA post, but found that was not worth the effort. I agree with Paul and you should be building backlinks for your busienss not someone else. I would much rather have all the link going to my site or promotion anyway.
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    • Profile picture of the author paulgl
      Help me out Jeff. What was your reason for building a few links to
      the article? Getting it indexed perhaps? Okay. That may be a valid
      reason, but then once it's indexed, it's got to have a life of its own.
      You want "it" to give you backlinks, especially the one from EZA.
      But backlinks not by writing other articles, but other backlinks.

      The only other reason I can see is for link washing.

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      • Profile picture of the author Jacob Martus
        Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

        Help me out Jeff. What was your reason for building a few links to
        the article? Getting it indexed perhaps? Okay. That may be a valid
        reason, but then once it's indexed, it's got to have a life of its own.
        You want "it" to give you backlinks, especially the one from EZA.
        But backlinks not by writing other articles, but other backlinks.

        The only other reason I can see is for link washing.

        Paul
        The only reason that I can come up with is if you're article is approaching the first page for a keyword that gets some traffic and you want to move it on up. That way if the article starts getting some decent traffic, hopefully that will lead to clickthroughs to my site.

        But there are way way more efficient means to backlink an article than to write another article. I don't ever bother backlinking my articles. The only reason I submit them is in hopes that they get syndicated on related sites. Hell, usually I don't even SEO my articles. I just make them super high quality so they have better chances for syndication.
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        • Profile picture of the author ddwebx
          Well, I can't actually tell you why one article outranked the other.
          Would you mind linking us to both of those articles? Make sure you
          optimized your EZA article correctly.

          By the way, I'm not sure why everyone who replied to this thread says
          you shouldn't build links to your articles. In fact once your EZA article
          gets older it won't show up in the front page and it's views will go down.

          But, if you build some good links to that EZA article it's probably going
          to rank well for some keywords in Google, Yahoo! and Bing, therefore
          you will always get new readers to your EZA article. Not to mention,
          after building some links to your article, all search engines will considered
          that page more relevant and higher authority than before and probably
          that's going to pass more authority and relevancy to the money site (main website).

          That's my point of view, please correct me if I'm wrong.
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          • Profile picture of the author Jacob Martus
            Originally Posted by ddwebx View Post


            But, if you build some good links to that EZA article it's probably going
            to rank well for some keywords in Google, Yahoo! and Bing, therefore
            you will always get new readers to your EZA article. Not to mention,
            after building some links to your article, all search engines will considered
            that page more relevant and higher authority than before and probably
            that's going to pass more authority and relevancy to the money site (main website).

            That's my point of view, please correct me if I'm wrong.
            Well yes, it would pass a little more authority and relevancy to your site I guess. BUT you could be sending those backlinks to your site and get way more power than you would from backlinking the EZA article. Why waste time building links to someone else's site? All the links you send to eza could be pointing at your site.
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            • Profile picture of the author rbf738
              Ok gotta clarify.

              First off, I write articles for Ezine and backlink to them because they have a much better chance of ranking well for a term than if I put the article on my PR 1 site, so it's not worth it for me to work that much harder to get an article on my own site in the SERPs versus Ezine. That being said it's a moot point because hardly any of my Ezine articles rank for anything anyways despite the fact that I link back to the original article from about 10 other article sites and bookmark it at various SB sites as well. If someone could help me out with advice to better optimize those articles well that'd be amazing.

              Secondly, I'm not writing new articles for other sites and linking back to Ezine. I'm tweaking the original Ezine article a touch so that it's not a carbon copy, then resubmiting to other AD. Each article which I tweak then resubmit to other article sites has two links: One to the original Ezine for the backlink/link juice, another to my site for traffic purposes.
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              • Profile picture of the author ddwebx
                Originally Posted by rbf738 View Post

                Ok gotta clarify.

                First off, I write articles for Ezine and backlink to them because they have a much better chance of ranking well for a term than if I put the article on my PR 1 site, so it's not worth it for me to work that much harder to get an article on my own site in the SERPs versus Ezine. That being said it's a moot point because hardly any of my Ezine articles rank for anything anyways despite the fact that I link back to the original article from about 10 other article sites and bookmark it at various SB sites as well. If someone could help me out with advice to better optimize those articles well that'd be amazing.

                Secondly, I'm not writing new articles for other sites and linking back to Ezine. I'm tweaking the original Ezine article a touch so that it's not a carbon copy, then resubmiting to other AD. Each article which I tweak then resubmit to other article sites has two links: One to the original Ezine for the backlink/link juice, another to my site for traffic purposes.
                I think the best way to optimize your articles is always add the keyword in the title, h1 tags, url and keep a keyword density of about 1-2%, always make sure to link back to the article you are trying to rank with the keyword in the anchor text.

                Give it a try!
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  • Profile picture of the author Groovystar
    When it comes to your own backlinks like that i'd just worry that they are indexed, nothing more. As long as Google can see them.

    I would put a link to your real site onto that high ranking page. Then viewers seeing it will be directed to the original anyway.
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  • Profile picture of the author Groovystar
    Obvously, for that high ranking article you did something right. I'd try and duplicate that...
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    • Profile picture of the author jasonl70
      Originally Posted by rbf738 View Post

      Ok gotta clarify.

      First off, I write articles for Ezine and backlink to them because they have a much better chance of ranking well for a term than if I put the article on my PR 1 site, so it's not worth it for me to work that much harder to get an article on my own site in the SERPs versus Ezine. That being said it's a moot point because hardly any of my Ezine articles rank for anything anyways despite the fact that I link back to the original article from about 10 other article sites and bookmark it at various SB sites as well.
      If you read this, you will see a problem.. you are basing all of this on assumptions - and assumptions that are not panning out with your real experience.

      Yes, posting to an established site WILL get your article ranking faster than posting to a new site. But it will not ultimately outrank a pr1 site. I have numerous pr0 sites outranking pr4+ sites as we speak. But keep building links to THEM (article sites), and you are just doing everything possible to ensure they will outrank you.
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      • Profile picture of the author simpleonline1234
        Another factor that you might not of thought about is:

        Did you optimize all the articles for the same keywords? that would be crazy...I see time and time again where people would optimize their articles using the exact same keywords from their website and find that the articles are outranking their websites....which in turn defeats the entire purpose....why not create your articles using relative keywords in your niche so that your articles are not competing against once another in the rankings. This also opens the door for a different traffic stream and by linking them back to your main site your helping your site in the rankings which is also a plus.
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        • Profile picture of the author rbf738
          Originally Posted by simpleonline1234 View Post

          Another factor that you might not of thought about is:

          Did you optimize all the articles for the same keywords? that would be crazy...I see time and time again where people would optimize their articles using the exact same keywords from their website and find that the articles are outranking their websites....which in turn defeats the entire purpose....why not create your articles using relative keywords in your niche so that your articles are not competing against once another in the rankings. This also opens the door for a different traffic stream and by linking them back to your main site your helping your site in the rankings which is also a plus.
          No not really. I've written articles on virtually every keyword in the book for this niche, I think it's been exhausted and I'm into barely relevant words now that I gotta make stretch which I'm sure is more of a waste of time than it's worth.
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