7Search. I don't know man

14 years ago

I think that 7search is a good search engine.

For sure, Yahoo and Google are a lot better but 7search can do good for you too.

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arnold55

14 years ago

just a quick statement...
i have used 7search before so i'm not necessarily saying anything derogatory against them.

just something is fishy!

arnold55

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7SearchBrad 14 years ago

Hello Arnold55, I am glad to hear that you have given 7Search an opportunity. I would like to personally offer myself as point of contact to help with questions regarding your account. If you could send me an email to bstanley at 7search dot com and let me know your username, I will check it out and we can discuss possibilities.

I look forward to hearing back from you.

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- magma 14 years ago
  
  I have the same problem but with other email submit offers, 98 click in one campaign and 41 in another but only 8 submits
  
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David Jackson

14 years ago

Originally Posted by arnold55

I have a campaign on auto insurance quotes
it's a zip only campaign I have had over 50 clicks and not one person
looking for an insurance quote has entered a zip, not a one.

something is fishy somewhere.....

There's nothing fishy, Arnold. You haven't given your marketing campaign nearly enough time to accurately gauge whether or not it's working. There are far too many variables involved to be able to gauge whether or not a marketing campaign is working after only 50 click-thru's - not the least of which is traffic quality, and the overall competency of your marketing methods. I always tell my clients, wait until you've received a minimum of 1000-2000 click-thru's, before you start panicking, and making all kinds of unnecessary adjustments.

Here's why: It's possible you might not get a single desired response in the first 100-200 click-thru's. But in the next 100-200 click-thru's, you could get 10 desired responses. That's marketing. It's like golf - sometimes it will drive you absolutely nuts! The point is, you just never know in which traffic groups those desired responses are going to be hiding in. Again, assuming everything else is in order. That's why it's important not to panic.

Because many times, when you think there's a problem, there isn't one. For now, you just need to be more patient.

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JustVisiting

14 years ago

For me 7search is like burning money, matched only by my old FindWhat ppc campaigns.

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David Jackson

14 years ago

Originally Posted by JustVisiting

For me 7search is like burning money, matched only by my old FindWhat ppc campaigns.

I actually made a ton of money with both 7Search and FindWhat. In fact, at one point, I was spending approximately $700 per week with FindWhat, because my ROI was consistently 2-3 times that amount.

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galex

14 years ago

For 7search, just deleting non converting keywords is not enough. Why ? I found good keywords (relevant to the offer) bring the traffic from bad quaility website. So we must have more control for 7search traffics. What is that ?

1. Block bad website referers / non converting referers
2. Block bad partner/subid (non converting partner/subid)
3. Using day party, just running the traffic on specific day/time.
4. Block bad keywords / non converting keywords.

Unfortunatelly, those features can be opened by request (in my case, I am not sure for other account).

I just create short tutorial on my blog about this. Just take alook.

Anton, ID

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thrigrri 14 years ago

I personally have got quite a number of sales coming from 7search as well... What's more, you need not pay huge CPC even for the most competitive keywords (unlike Adwords). I've also managed to get some sales from Advertise.com as well...
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7SearchBrad

14 years ago

Originally Posted by galex

For 7search, just deleting non converting keywords is not enough. Why ? I found good keywords (relevant to the offer) bring the traffic from bad quaility website. So we must have more control for 7search traffics. What is that ?

1. Block bad website referers / non converting referers
2. Block bad partner/subid (non converting partner/subid)
3. Using day party, just running the traffic on specific day/time.
4. Block bad keywords / non converting keywords.

Unfortunatelly, those features can be opened by request (in my case, I am not sure for other account).

I just create short tutorial on my blog about this. Just take alook.

Anton, ID

Hi Anton,

You have the ability to block the sub ids in your acct as well bad keywords. In addition to this, we have recently went beta with our version of day parting. Please email me and I will be able to help you further.

If anyone has any questions please feel free to reach out at bstanley at 7search dot com.

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Brad

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mnonline

14 years ago

I have no success with 7search, even with over 2k traffic. Don't know whether i did something wrong or not. For anyone who had positive experiences with 7search, what strategies did you use?

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thrigrri

14 years ago

Originally Posted by mnonline

I have no success with 7search, even with over 2k traffic. Don't know whether i did something wrong or not. For anyone who had positive experiences with 7search, what strategies did you use?

I target only the search network, and that I only enabled "Phrase" matching for the keywords that I target. Also, I narrowed down the countries in which I target to just US, UK, CA, AU and NZ.

I hope by doing the above will get you better quality traffic (as I managed to get much better quality traffic by doing the above).

Hope this helps!

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socialbookmark

14 years ago

I tried 7search for a month and i didn't earned much money through it and i leaved it. Maybe making money through 7search needs some knowledge or special techniques.

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Raja Kamil

14 years ago

I myself had 800 clicks and plus.
But, when I looked at my statistic, I just got 90 clicks.

I don't know what had happen.

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thrigrri

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Raja Kamil

I myself had 800 clicks and plus.
But, when I looked at my statistic, I just got 90 clicks.

I don't know what had happen.

Hey Raja

Send an email to 7search's support team and ask them about it... Here's the link to it in case you need it:

7Search.com - Customer Support

Their support is really prompt - I usually get a reply from them in under 24-hours.

Hope this will help...

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Raja Kamil

14 years ago

Originally Posted by thrigrri

Hey Raja

Send an email to 7search's support team and ask them about it... Here's the link to it in case you need it:

7Search.com - Customer Support

Their support is really prompt - I usually get a reply from them in under 24-hours.

Hope this will help...

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Jun Yuan

Thanks Yuan;
I'll contact them asap. Have you face that problem before?

To all, I found some interesting article on 7Search, 7Search Weblog : 3 Tips to Increase Traffic to Your 7Search Ad

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thrigrri

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Raja Kamil

I'll contact them asap. Have you face that problem before?

No problem!

Nope... I have not encountered the problem before *fingers crossed*... LOL!

As for the site you have provided, bidding on click-free keywords and category ads is a little bit like bidding for your ads to show on the content network... Sometimes the clicks must not be as good as compared to clicks from the search network...

This is just my experience with 7search... I feel that as long as we target the right keywords, even by just targeting the search network we can still able to get enough traffic to get the sales...

Just my 2-cents on bidding with 7search... Hope this will benefit everyone here...

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Raja Kamil

14 years ago

Originally Posted by thrigrri

No problem!

Nope... I have not encountered the problem before *fingers crossed*... LOL!

As for the site you have provided, bidding on click-free keywords and category ads is a little bit like bidding for your ads to show on the content network... Sometimes the clicks must not be as good as compared to clicks from the search network...

This is just my experience with 7search... I feel that as long as we target the right keywords, even by just targeting the search network we can still able to get enough traffic to get the sales...

Just my 2-cents on bidding with 7search... Hope this will benefit everyone here...

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Jun Yuan

Wow, you are so lucky (or I am so unlucky

)
About the article, yeah, agree with you.
But, the "targetting categories" part is really interesting.

By the way, I should see you personally Yuan. Maybe we can discuss a lot how to "hack" this 7Search. :p
Maybe next year while visiting relatives at JB.

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thrigrri

14 years ago

Haha! Sure! When you are coming to Singapore, let me know OK? We can meet up and discuss about 7search (and other Internet Marketing strategies) over a cup of coffee...

Just noticed your location and noticed that you are from Malaysia... Pangkor is close to Kuala Lumpur, right? (Or is it within Kuala Lumpur?)

Oh, by the way, I've just added you in my Facebook account...

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Raja Kamil

14 years ago

Originally Posted by thrigrri

Haha! Sure! When you are coming to Singapore, let me know OK? We can meet up and discuss about 7search (and other Internet Marketing strategies) over a cup of coffee...

Just noticed your location and noticed that you are from Malaysia... Pangkor is close to Kuala Lumpur, right? (Or is it within Kuala Lumpur?)

Yeah. You look pretty good in understanding how 7 Search work.
By the way, Pangkor is about 250km from Kuala Lumpur.

Awesome, at last I found my gang for 7 Search to work.

Guess what, yesterday, I changed my budget from $5/day to $500/day.
Normally, I just received 300 hundreds click on 1 cents keyword.

But, yesterday, using the same keyword, and same bidding, I got 800 plus clicks.

Maybe, Yuan can figure what happen?

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thrigrri

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Raja Kamil

Guess what, yesterday, I changed my budget from $5/day to $500/day.
Normally, I just received 300 hundreds click on 1 cents keyword.

But, yesterday, using the same keyword, and same bidding, I got 800 plus clicks.

Maybe, Yuan can figure what happen?

Wow! Did you turn on the content advertising option? Or advertise in the click-free keywords category or the category ads?

So, how was the conversion like? I hope you managed to see some good conversions (from the number of clicks your ads received).

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Raja Kamil

14 years ago

Originally Posted by thrigrri

Wow! Did you turn on the content advertising option? Or advertise in the click-free keywords category or the category ads?

So, how was the conversion like? I hope you managed to see some good conversions (from the number of clicks your ads received).

No. It's all from Search Engine. I would try the content advertising option pretty soon.

Remember before this I told above in this thread that I received 800 clicks from 7 Search, but from the stat I just received 90 clicks.

It is only about 10% actually the click go to my LP.

I'm not sure what happen.

The conversion, still calculating

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thrigrri

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Raja Kamil

No. It's all from Search Engine. I would try the content advertising option pretty soon.

Remember before this I told above in this thread that I received 800 clicks from 7 Search, but from the stat I just received 90 clicks.

It is only about 10% actually the click go to my LP.

I'm not sure what happen.

The conversion, still calculating

I would suggest you give them an email and check it out... The support staff are really helpful and I'm sure they can help you on on this.

Keep me updated and let me know what they say OK?

Let me know if there's anything you need help in...

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james7 14 years ago

7search is also a good search engine for ppc, but most of people believe on Google. So, I think you try google.
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webdango

14 years ago

Best I ever did on 7 search with zip/email subs was break even. I eventually gave up on trying to do PPC for those kinds of offers....

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thrigrri 14 years ago

Originally Posted by webdango

Best I ever did on 7 search with zip/email subs was break even. I eventually gave up on trying to do PPC for those kinds of offers....

From experience, I feel it's difficult to promote email/zip submits using PPC as the payouts for these offers are way too low to be profitable... Let's say an email/zip submit offer pays you $1.20 and you CPC is $0.12. That means, you need 1 signup in 12 to breakeven (I'm not even talking about profiting here)

And to get 1 conversion in 12 clicks is very tough in my opinion unless your keywords are really super targeted...

I only use PPC to promote higher commissions CPA campaigns, such as free product trial offers, where the payout is much higher (and easily to profit).

Just my opinion based on my experiences with PPC and CPA marketing...

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Seantrepreneur

14 years ago

You have to test out a bunch of different ads all worded differently to see which one will convert the best. After you have this data then you can maximize your campaign. If you are not using a custom LP then you don't have to worry about split testing that. You cant expect to run one ad for a couple days and make tons of money doing it. If that was the case everyone would be getting rich from CPA. There is an art to PPC. Good luck with your campaigns!