Best Sources for Adsense Traffic

by Yogini
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I have always relied only upon organic traffic to my pages with adsense and am wondering if there are other sources that are allowed. For instance, I know that people used adsense arbitrage in past but I believe this was a source of bans (ie paying for ads on adwords at lower costs). Is this still the case and does that apply to other ppc engines such as bing or ask?

Are banner ads, facebook ads or links from paid ads in ezine newsletters allowed to sites with adsense? I'm looking for ideas aside from organic traffic and article marketing traffic and want to do what is only within their tos and totally whitehat. Thanks.

Debbie
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  • Profile picture of the author Yogini
    I mean a developed adsense site with at least 10 pages and good content. I know in past they frowned on using ppc to bring traffic so I am just wondering aside from article writing and organic searches if other types of traffic are allowed such as buying banners on sites or links in newsletters or perhaps ppc that isn't adwords.

    Debbie
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    • Profile picture of the author rockingcow
      I have just been trying to find some information on this same subject. I am no expert and am only going on what I have read from other people so don't take what I say as fact.

      One of the keys seems to be that your site has a way to make money or capture leads apart from adsense.

      If the only source of income is adsense, then it is obviously an MFA site which is not liked by google.

      If you have cpa, amazon offers, clickbank products etc on there then you are showing google that you could make money without them.

      Imagine your site without adsense, would you buy traffic for it then? If yes then go ahead and buy traffic for it now.

      If no, then you are probably trying to game the system.
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  • Profile picture of the author Yogini
    RockingCow,

    I have some big sites with good content and a few clickbank books on them as well. Obviously they are fine with organic or article marketing traffic but I still am wondering what their exact policy is on other forms of traffic. I am talking only about whitehat legitimate traffic but ones that aren't just related to search engine rankings.

    Debbie
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    • Profile picture of the author rockingcow
      Originally Posted by Yogini View Post

      RockingCow,

      I have some big sites with good content and a few clickbank books on them as well. Obviously they are fine with organic or article marketing traffic but I still am wondering what their exact policy is on other forms of traffic. I am talking only about whitehat legitimate traffic but ones that aren't just related to search engine rankings.

      Debbie
      That is the problem Debbie, Google tend not to have exact policies and more best practices. Sometimes these are open to interpretation.

      I think the best advice I can give you is to head over to the official adsense support site and have a look at some posts. There are always lots of people who have been banned, and others explaining why.

      You will start to get a feel for some of the most common reasons why people fall foul of Google.

      Hope this helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author sundaram
    Google I think would not approve of the traffic generated from the operation of manual traffic exchanges. Even PPCs like bidvertiser and adbrite are not viewed as genuine traffic generators by Google I suppose.
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  • Profile picture of the author ScarlettD
    I think google adsense dislike ppc campaign..
    Best thing to do is improving your site seo to get your site one first page on google, yahoo and bing
    Coz traffic from search engine is the best
    Good luck
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  • Profile picture of the author Yogini
    Thanks everyone. I like organic traffic best too! I will check out their forum to see if there is a specific policy on other types of traffic. I'm sure press releases are fine but I'm wondering about other forms of marketing like classified ads, banner ads and links on popular forums.

    Debbie
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    • Profile picture of the author rockingcow
      Just saying that organic traffic is the best is a bit pointless really.

      It is far from being that simple.

      You always have to look at what you will have to put in to get something out. How long you want to wait to get results etc.

      Say you want to target the keyword "weight loss" or "car insurance" your chances of getting that keyword to the first page are slim to none.

      If you can buy clicks for $0.10 and sell them for $0.50 in those niches then why would anyone with a brain ignore that opportunity?

      Don't listen to people who just give you a completely one sided answer with no explanation Debbie.

      The old style of arbitrage that got tons of people banned was just sending people straight to a page full of ads with nothing else.

      Some people think they are safe just putting ads and an article on a page. The problem is that if Google ever check that page, they would say "would this page be here if there was no adsense?, no, ban" thats what I think they would say anyway, based on their best practices.

      In my opinion you should be getting traffic from anywhere you can, as long as it is not specifically mentioned in the tos or best practices. It seems to be more about the page, than what got them to the page if you know what I mean?

      If you are in doubt, post the traffic source on the official adsense site and make your decision based on the opinions of people who have lots of experience.
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  • Profile picture of the author rockingcow
    Originally Posted by Your Lover View Post

    I'm completely with you
    Care to explain why if you could buy traffic for $0.10 and sell it for $0.50 you wouldn't do it?
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    • Profile picture of the author sam12six
      Originally Posted by rockingcow View Post

      Care to explain why if you could buy traffic for $0.10 and sell it for $0.50 you wouldn't do it?
      Advertiser policies aside, it depends on how responsive your traffic turned out to be.

      If you paid $.10 for EVERY visitor and got paid $.50 for that one-in-a-hundred visitor that actually decided to click out, you wouldn't be making a ton from your arbitrage.

      As far as whether Google sees something as MFA or not, I remember 15 years ago, there were a ton of sites that were nothing but ads. Google declared war on MFA sites and these don't really exist (with adsense) unless you're talking about parked domains (and some of these I don't see how Google allows).

      Google isn't a mindreader. They don't look at a page and say, "This person wanted nothing but ad revenue. This is a MFA site".

      Their only criterion is whether or not the page offers something other than ads for a visitor. They don't judge if your content sux or if it's content is pointless. They simply judge that there's readable content with the keywords in logical context.

      Edit - For my answer to the original question. In my experience, the best (by which I mean the highest CTR) traffic has been article marketing. To my way of thinking, you've got a visitor who's already proven that they're interested enough in an article subject to even get to the resource box and also is willing to click links.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rock Solid
    AdSense arbitrage can be fairly tough considering the fact that A) you'll be paying more for traffic than *most* clicks will payout considering getting only 5 or so out of every 100 visitors to click (and AdWords costly advertising) and B) will be tough to build a site that can reliably profit from adsense arbitrage because of Googles very tough standards (i.e. paying for mass traffic and hoping they click on adsense ads occasionally usually won't work cause most of that traffic comes from the same IP blocks, thus raising red flags in googles book)

    Really the only way to profit is to organically get traffic, whatever way that may be you'll be stuck just needing unpaid traffic or you could face getting perma banned from using adsense, which would be absolutely awful!
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  • Profile picture of the author yog888
    Search Engines traffic is best. Organic always helpful, try to increase keyword ranking in search engines.
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    • Profile picture of the author rockingcow
      Originally Posted by sam12six View Post

      Advertiser policies aside, it depends on how responsive your traffic turned out to be.

      If you paid $.10 for EVERY visitor and got paid $.50 for that one-in-a-hundred visitor that actually decided to click out, you wouldn't be making a ton from your arbitrage.
      I am talking about paying $0.10 for every visitor who clicks out.

      As far as whether Google sees something as MFA or not, I remember 15 years ago, there were a ton of sites that were nothing but ads. Google declared war on MFA sites and these don't really exist (with adsense) unless you're talking about parked domains (and some of these I don't see how Google allows).
      Google has a parked domain program that is why Google allows them.

      Google isn't a mindreader. They don't look at a page and say, "This person wanted nothing but ad revenue. This is a MFA site".
      I am talking about if you are buying traffic and at some point Google checks your pages manually. If it is obvious that your aim is to buy traffic at one price and sell it at a higher price they will ban you without hesitation. You don't need to be a mindreader. Why would someone buy traffic to an article?

      Their only criterion is whether or not the page offers something other than ads for a visitor. They don't judge if your content sux or if it's content is pointless. They simply judge that there's readable content with the keywords in logical context.
      You need to do a bit more research before you offer advice like that. People are banned every day while having readable content.

      Edit - For my answer to the original question. In my experience, the best (by which I mean the highest CTR) traffic has been article marketing. To my way of thinking, you've got a visitor who's already proven that they're interested enough in an article subject to even get to the resource box and also is willing to click links.
      She allready knows the benefits of article marketing and organic traffic. I think she was looking for alternatives.


      Originally Posted by Rock Solid View Post

      AdSense arbitrage can be fairly tough considering the fact that A) you'll be paying more for traffic than *most* clicks will payout considering getting only 5 or so out of every 100 visitors to click (and AdWords costly advertising) and B) will be tough to build a site that can reliably profit from adsense arbitrage because of Googles very tough standards (i.e. paying for mass traffic and hoping they click on adsense ads occasionally usually won't work cause most of that traffic comes from the same IP blocks, thus raising red flags in googles book)
      There are hundreds of traffic sources out there. If I am selling a product + have adsense on my page, are you telling me I can't buy traffic to sell my product?

      Originally Posted by yog888 View Post

      Search Engines traffic is best. Organic always helpful, try to increase keyword ranking in search engines.
      Look at what she actually asked which is quoted below.

      Originally Posted by Yogini View Post

      I'm looking for ideas aside from organic traffic and article marketing traffic and want to do what is only within their tos and totally whitehat. Thanks.

      Debbie
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      • Profile picture of the author sam12six
        Originally Posted by rockingcow View Post

        I am talking about paying $0.10 for every visitor who clicks out.
        From this:
        Originally Posted by rockingcow View Post

        Care to explain why if you could buy traffic for $0.10 and sell it for $0.50 you wouldn't do it?
        It sounded like you were talking about $.10 for everyone who clicks in, hence the BUY.


        Originally Posted by rockingcow View Post

        Google has a parked domain program that is why Google allows them.
        Yes. I was halfway joking. It's just like how premium publishers have different rules...

        Originally Posted by rockingcow View Post

        I am talking about if you are buying traffic and at some point Google checks your pages manually. If it is obvious that your aim is to buy traffic at one price and sell it at a higher price they will ban you without hesitation. You don't need to be a mindreader. Why would someone buy traffic to an article?
        My bad. You're right - arbitrage to a page with no exit but adsense would likely get you spanked.

        Originally Posted by rockingcow View Post

        You need to do a bit more research before you offer advice like that. People are banned every day while having readable content.
        I'll stand by what I said. I'm not saying that breaking TOS in another way won't get you banned. I'm just saying even if they send a human to review your site, that human won't make a judgment call that your site should be banned because he or she thinks your content isn't great. As long as it's real, readable content (as in - not something that's been chewed up by a spinner or scraper), they won't ban you simply because the reviewer doesn't feel like your content is great.

        Originally Posted by rockingcow View Post

        She allready knows the benefits of article marketing and organic traffic. I think she was looking for alternatives.
        I agree - but...

        It's like someone asking what is the best way to kill flies but they already know about flypaper and fly swatters and my answering that a fly swatter is the simply the best option.

        I was just saying those traffic sources (organic and article marketing) are the only 2 consistent, Google compliant sources that someone could profit consistently from (IMO). Of the 2, article marketing seems to attract visitors who are interested and proven to be willing to click links.
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        • Profile picture of the author rockingcow
          Originally Posted by sam12six View Post


          that human won't make a judgment call
          Ahh, actually that human will make a judgment call. It happens every day. Look round this forum, look round the adsense forum, you will find lots of people who got banned for thin sites, sites that don't offer value, sites where content is hard to find etc.

          I agree - but...

          It's like someone asking what is the best way to kill flies but they already know about flypaper and fly swatters and my answering that a fly swatter is the simply the best option.
          Actually it's like someone asking "any alternatives to flypaper and fly swatters?"

          you and ten other people - "flypaper and fly swatters"

          I was just saying those traffic sources (organic and article marketing) are the only 2 consistent, Google compliant sources that someone could profit consistently from (IMO). Of the 2, article marketing seems to attract visitors who are interested and proven to be willing to click links.
          Explain what you mean by "Google compliant" please.
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  • Profile picture of the author Boris_yo
    I think that though arbitrage was considered bad practice for driving paid traffic to 1 page website with only AdSense ads on them, still i would do it even if i had quality website.

    As for banner ads, i don't see why they won't work.
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