How to sell SEO to local businesses

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Hi, my name is Philippe Labrie and I've sold "positionning on first pages of google" for a living.

I found this forum by typing "Yellow pages sell seo" on google, it led me to a thread asking how to sell seo to local businesses. There was a ton of responses to the thread but none of them actually said: "Hire a professional salesperson".
I was burning to post that... but I figured I'd drop in and contribute.

Please note that I'm French and Lazy.

I'll avoid all the "do X and clients will come to you" and presume that you want to go out and get more business. Local chambers of commerce and other associations works great but the bulk of your business will come from soliciation.

So.. How do you sell SEO to local businesses?

I'm sure most of you know that it usually goes in that order:

Prospection
Cold calls or Cold Walk-ins
Meeting / Pitch
Close

Why do half of the people fail at it? They don't stay focused...
Let's put this again but with what should be your focus.

Prospection... Quickly and Efficiently get a list of Qualified Prospects.
Cold calls... Get a meeting with the decision maker.
Walk-ins... Get a meeting with the decision maker.
Meeting... Get to understand the prospect, his business, his needs.
Pitch... Sell yourself.
Close... Close with the prospects expectations as low as possible.

It's amazing how many people take hours to prospect just a few clients or how they start talking about their product, it's advantages and even the price on the phone. It is simply because they don't stay focused.



Prospection:

In our business prospection is easy, you have to ask yourself the following questions for each business:

Can they afford my services?
Can they benefit from my services?
Are they already doing SEO? If so, are the others doing a good job?

And then move to the next one.. It's all about being efficient with your time.

The biggest problem some people face is that they find a local business that could benefit from SEO, spends a few hours planning or gathering info and then goes to call or meet the owner.... A business owner who DOES NOT BELIEVE IN THE INTERNET.

Yes ladies and gents, lots of local business owners don't believe in the fact that the internet can bring them more business. I'm sure you've all faced the typical scenario where one of your client wants to pay as little as possible for anything web related. Remember that most successful businesses are still owned by the baby boomer (or previous) generation and that they understand little about the internet. So the goal is to spend time only on the ones who believe in it, forget the others.

Cold calls and Walk-ins


Ah, good ole Cold calling.. it sucks doesn't it? You have this crazy product, SEO, beats any means of advertising AND it's only starting.. yet that *%/" receptionist on the other end of the phone won't let you talk to the owner.

Cold calling is an art - It requires you to adapt yourself to the person on the other end of the line and has a lot of subtle elements to consider.

First of all, go on youtube and type "cold calls" - "cold calling" etc.. There's tons of videos teaching the basics and fundamentals of it - consider yourselves lucky, people had to buy books and videos on cold calling a few years ago, now you get all of this for free.

The second step is to calibrate your mind and body for success and enthousiasm. I know this sounds silly but take 30 seconds and picture something that you know will make you smile or put you in a good mood. Personally I used to picture clients for whom my services made a big difference, clients who told me thanks. Why would you do this you ask? Because there's three things that will come out when you'll be on the phone:

What you will say,
Which mood you are in,
Your enthousiasm.

The goal is to get in a good mood and be enthousiastic about your product and how it can help them. Trust me, people sell 2000$ sceminars just to teach you that it's important to smile when making cold calls.

Now onto the call itself... It's spit into several steps.

The receptionist

Sorry guys (and gals) but there's only one very efficient way of getting what you want out of receptionists and it's to suck it up and to put on the white gloves. You have to be polite, ongoing, flirt a bit, call them by their names, thank them often, make them feel like the center of the world. Oh and it has to be as authentic as possible, you have to feel it...

I would usually ask for the owner or person responsible for advertising. If they responded that they don't do advertising, I'd say it's about the website and I have 3 quick important questions to ask to the owner. The website isn't mentionned at first because half the time they'll pass you right trough and I felt like I was taken less seriously if I talked about the website. Some people tend to put you into the "geeky web nerd type of guy" when you start talking about their website and you want to avoid that.

Sometimes you'll end up on grumpy at the other end of the line and there's simply nothing you can do about it.

The owner
Once you got past the receptionist it's game time; putting yourself in the shoes of a business owners or leader helps a lot in theses cases. My pitch usually went like this:

Me: "Hello Mr.I_learned_your_name_from_receptionist my name is Philippe Labrie, how are you today?"

Prospect: "I'm doing well, thank you, you wanted to speak to me?"

Me: "Yes Mr.X, I understand you are a busy man (reinforce ego) so I won't take much of your time, I have three quick questions.."

Prospect: Go ahead..

Me: "Do you know google?"

Prospect: "Yes" (If no.. He probably doesn't believe on the internet, RUN!)

Me: "Do you use google?"

Prospect: "Yes I do" (If no.. does his staff use it?)

Me: "Do you think it's important for your business to be found on google when someone is looking for _insert his product or service_ in Ottawa?"

Prospect: "Of course!"

Me: "Well then, that's exacly why I want to meet you; I want to show you how to achieve theses results, how about I meet you at your office Friday morning?"

(Now, for the sake of this little guide, I'll make it tough)

Prospect: "I'd love to but our advertising budget is tight, can you tell me how much it costs?"

Me: "Mr.X I understand but in order for me to come out with a number I need to learn more about your business and where it should be positioned in the search engines. I promise I won't waste your time."

Prospect: "I'm still not convinced.."

Me: "See it this way Mr.X, two things can happen if we meet; either we come out with a deal and your wallet benefits from it or you'll come out much more knowledgable about search engine marketing and it's implications for today and tomorrow which in turns allows you to make better decisions in the future.
So how about Friday?"

It's very important that you stay focused and keep your goal in mind: To get an appointment. Some sales people I've worked with write it down on a post it and put it somewhere visible. So whatever works, as long as you get results.

Another way to help is to set yourself a goal; a number of calls to make, and stick to it. Cold calls can get frustrating and people without experience will sometimes stop after that 15th call because they didn't get good feedback. Someone with experience in cold calls will know the average success rate of his industry, in the case of selling SEO to local businesses it is around 1 meeting per 10 calls based on hundreds of cold calls. So don't let yourself get discouraged by a bad streak. You can only judge your performance after a hundred calls or so.

Walk-ins are a bit different, I personally am not a big fan of them but I did make some sells because of them. You can do that whenever your tired of cold calls or when you are simply casually shopping or w/e. The trick is once again to stay focused and get an appointement out of it, not explain your whole product or services. That way it allows you to come prepared and it puts you in control of the sale.




Meeting the prospect

When interviewing sales candidates I love to do this little test; I ask them to role play a bit and sell me my product and what they understand of it. Most of them start by pitching the product.. the really good ones start asking questions about my business.

The point is that good salespeople ask questions before pitching the product. It allows them to "tone" the pitch to the personality of the prospect and to make sure they don't step into traps along the way.

Ex. Prospect hates pay per click, spent lots of money on them with little results.
By asking questions you would know this before presenting what you can do for him so you won't include a pay per click campaign in your proposal. Nothing prevents you from reasoning with him afterward once he's doing business with you and have a well managed pay per click campaign done for him. But if you were to mention that in the early stages, before doing business together, you'd be losing points.

So start by asking relevant business questions; get to know them and their business. Some of the simply LOVE to talk about themselves and how great their business is.. the more they talk early on the better. I remember reading about the psychology related to sales and a basic aspect was that the more a person talks about themselves the more they are inclined to buy. I don't remember the exact reason nor could I formulate it in english but the way I see it, the longer the person talks about himself in front of me, the stronger the feeling that they "owe" me something.

I've had a security systems business owner rant to me for an hour of the good (and bad) shots he did in the 10 years he has been in business without even knowing what I was selling exacly. Once he stopped talking about himself he simply asked: "So, you're telling me this will help me make more money?" I replied "Yes" and he said "I'll take your word on it, what do you need from me". Sale was done.

Also, never ever play the tech guy unless you're dealing with a tech guy. If the person in front of you only talks about statistics and conversion rates, show him stats.. otherwise keep it simple.

Things like: "You agree with me that people are searching locally for your services on Google?"
Are much stronger than: "There's been a 32% increase in local searches for your services in the last 2 years"

If you are to use stats in your pitch keep them quick and simple; A very fun one to use that I've actually picked up on the net is the "how much you're losing" one. I would start a presentation by showing a simple number, pausing for a good 10 seconds and ask them: "Do you know what this is?"..
"It's the number of people looking for your products or services that can't find you right now." or "It's the amount of money you could be bringing in."

Visuals are important: I used to print out google results of a local query in their fields; the goal was to show them that they aren't there of course, but half the time it actually showed them that the COMPETITION is there.. now that helps you get their attention, trust me.

A simple sample of printed out results of what you've done for other customers is all you really need for your pitches, also I believe that using a computer (especially theirs) is to avoid. I can't count the number of sales I lost because a prospect started litteraly surfing right in front of me, typing down keywords related to his business (or his friend's business). They tend to get easily distracted and notice tons of stuff that is irrelevant with what you are trying to accomplish. Avoid at all costs unless they are YOU to show them on the computer.. That way you stay in control of the sale.

From experience, most local business owners know little about the internet (or they think they know) so play it very simple, talk about first pages not SEO. Talk about bringing in more customers, not driving traffic to their website. Now and then there's a guy who knows about conversion rates but it's pretty rare and that brings us on the importance of expectations.

Don't set expectations too high (or at least try not to)... You do not want to go in there and tell them how internet will completely change the way to do business and that if they do business with you they will become so rich they won't know what to do with their money. I saw a lot of people pitching web sites or SEO and talk about how insane it's going to be in 5 years and how they are going to make 10 times the money invested.

That's peddlers talk.. and that monthly they are sending you.. you can kiss it goodbye in 2 months.

You want to keep their expectations just high enough for them to spend the money on it. Once they start seeing results they will appreciate it. If you set the bar too high, even if they get great results, they will have expected more and you risk losing them. Just be honest about what results they should expect based on your experience, you won't just find a client, you'll find a new friend.

I could go on for hours on how-to's and what's important but instead I'll just remind you the simple and basic rules:

- Ask questions
- Ask more questions
- Validate and ask questions
- Keep it simple
- Don't set expectations too high


The Close

(A)lways (B)e (C)losing

The ABC of sales.. countless sales rep have been hammered by the phrase. It is untrue by the way, there's a lot of timing involved in closing a deal. Asking for a close too early and the prospect won't see enough value in your service, ask it too late and the enthousiasm in them will have dicipated. It has to be done at the right time, once "all the holes have been patched" like my sales mentor would say.

Now, there are countless videos on youtube about closing so I won't spend too much time on it. The best ressource on it i've had the pleasure to consume is the 24 techniques to closing the sale by Brian Tracy. The way I see it is a bit funky, comes from a gamer background but bare with me for a second:

Basically, there's two meters.. One is for CONFIDENCE and the other one is for ENTHUSIASM.
Your goal is to fill both up before asking for a close otherwise you'll get a negative response.
Confidence is the belief in you and your service from the perspective of the client - it includes the price, delivery time, value etc.. that one is easy to fill up, most people can make someone else feel good about them and their service and answer simple objections. Where it gets tricky is the enthusiasm meter because even if they trust you their interest might not be there... I'll give you an example..

Say you are doing a presentation and you can feel that the prospect is highly interested, he's smiling and he says stuff like: "Ok, we'll go ahead with it." - Would you stop and close?
A lot of people simply won't.. because the presentation is not over.. or they will tell the client they will come back the next day to fill in the papers with him.. guess what's gonna happen the next day: that enthusiasm is gone and you'll have to start over again.. except this time the client knows about the product.

If you have to come back in a few days it is because the CONFIDENCE meter was not full, you forgot something along the way, stuff like: the business owner can't spend the money right now but will be able to in a month.. but he didn't tell you. That is never a lost sale because if you find what's holding them back, you can come back and propose a solution and while you are there you get that enthusiasm meter up. On the other way around they can be entirely confident on you but don't feel like buying right now. That happens all the time when reps call back clients the next day, they get the "we'll think about it" or "I'll get in touch with you".. Too late.. 9 times out of 10, you lost that sale.


Conclusion

I believe that selling S.E.O to local businesses is no easy task if you compare it to other types of advertising sales because it's still not pictured like advertising and you know what? That's a very good thing, especially if you have some talent in sales and are willing to go out of your way and call thoses prospects because we all know that in organic positioning there can't be hundreds of businesses competing. The sooner you get them on board the better for both of you. That said, I hope my unorganised spewing of mistyped information will help some of you!

Go get them!
#businesses #local #sell #seo
  • Profile picture of the author RSK3000
    An excellent first post. Thanks for sharing. Welcome to the forum.
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  • Profile picture of the author simmonsmike7
    Wow! What a detailed explanation of everything local - although I don't sell SEO services this thread is definitely tempting me... Ehh I'll stick to working out of the house and bookmark this thread for now lol
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  • Profile picture of the author Jagged
    I wish all first posts were like this...nice job & welcome to the WF. I'm sure you will be a welcome addition...
    *make sure you find your way to the SEO discussion forum section here...
    http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-ppc-seo-discussion-forum/

    I work with local businesses & offering local seo is one of my services. I am finding it harder to get through to the minds of local business owners who have been fighting off daily / weekly spam email / phone assults from overseas companies who claim to guarantee 1st page google for pennies on the dollar. A lot of these business owners hear SEO & are irritated thinking its another spam operation...It's an up hill battle having to explain everything to them time & time again...Once they hear me out things ususally go smoothly...

    Do you run into that at all & if so...how do you handle it?

    ~Ken
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      Awesome post! It was very insightful and I learned a lot!

      You mentioned you had a sales mentor, where did you get a mentor from? I want a mentor too
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    • Profile picture of the author Ray Erdmann
      Now this was an awesome first post! Can't thank you enough for really providing GREAT & USEFUL information!

      Question:

      I would love to take my internet marketing experience and apply it to local business owners, simply because I see the value of using the Internet as a way of acquiring new customers, retaining the current ones and being able to better 'brand' yourself within your own community.

      How would you approach a company that's been hit hard by recession and what type of responses would you use if a perspective business owner said something along the lines of:

      "I'd love to use your service, but at this time, with the economy the way it is, I've already had to let "X" number of employees go and I really felt bad about it simply because I know how hard it is to find jobs right now!"

      Your insights would be greatly appreciated.

      Thanks,


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      • Profile picture of the author John Durham
        Originally Posted by Ray Erdmann View Post

        Now this was an awesome first post! Can't thank you enough for really providing GREAT & USEFUL information!

        Question:

        I would love to take my internet marketing experience and apply it to local business owners, simply because I see the value of using the Internet as a way of acquiring new customers, retaining the current ones and being able to better 'brand' yourself within your own community.

        How would you approach a company that's been hit hard by recession and what type of responses would you use if a perspective business owner said something along the lines of:

        "I'd love to use your service, but at this time, with the economy the way it is, I've already had to let "X" number of employees go and I really felt bad about it simply because I know how hard it is to find jobs right now!"

        Your insights would be greatly appreciated.

        Thanks,


        Ray
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        @ The OP

        Dude. That is the SH!#! You are a true player No doubt!

        Heck I even learned some new tricks here!

        Forgot all about A-B-C! Thanks.
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      Originally Posted by Jagged View Post

      I wish all first posts were like this...nice job & welcome to the WF. I'm sure you will be a welcome addition...
      *make sure you find your way to the SEO discussion forum section here...


      I work with local businesses & offering local seo is one of my services. I am finding it harder to get through to the minds of local business owners who have been fighting off daily / weekly spam email / phone assults from overseas companies who claim to guarantee 1st page google for pennies on the dollar. A lot of these business owners hear SEO & are irritated thinking its another spam operation...It's an up hill battle having to explain everything to them time & time again...Once they hear me out things ususally go smoothly...

      Do you run into that at all & if so...how do you handle it?

      ~Ken
      I don't try and sell local businesses SEO for all the reasons that you mention. I find it a lot easier to sell them online lead generation. All business owners wants leads. Once you start sending them leads from a micro site that you set up, they WANT to buy your SEO services
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      • Profile picture of the author John Durham
        Originally Posted by peter.max View Post

        I don't try and sell local businesses SEO for all the reasons that you mention. I find it a lot easier to sell them online lead generation. All business owners wants leads. Once you start sending them leads from a micro site that you set up, they WANT to buy your SEO services

        There ya go.

        See the only issue I see with all of this is that the OP is obviously a trained seller.

        These techniques are text book perfect . It is clear that the OP has first hand experience, training and even a "Flair" for this. Even an ability to teach it.

        The trouble is that the average person doesn’t have that ability. The average person doesn’t have the ability to “feel when its just the right moment to close”….

        My understanding of this makes me a great sales director.

        The “e-myth” teaches that a smooth operating business is not dependent on “talent”, and I have experienced that truth first hand on a large scale.

        There are alot of cool techniques that will work for an above average, highly trained salesperson, who has knocked on a thousand doors and perfected his technique down to the perfect voice inflections....and can demonstrate with flair, but most off liners DO NOT have that kind of hardcore training in sales, or the ability to project such inflections.

        The OP is a pro, and he is explaining things that are second nature to a pro. Explaining the need for nuances that are second nature to a pro, but that a non pro would not understand completely.

        A Non pro who hasn’t got 1000 sales calls under his belt… needs a system that's so country-fied and simple that a mule could do it. "Always be Closing" only means something to those with sales training, or one who understands the tip of the iceberg about the art of closing…, and to the OP I can say "It would be very much a great thing for you to teach those things".

        Closing itself is an art that takes some people years to learn.

        Let me make my point not to take away from any of the brilliant things being said above in the OP (Because it truly is awesome stuff) , but rather to bring out the "E-Myth" in this concept of "Offline Sales".

        In the above post, along with all the absolutely FABULOUS tips that are amazing... There is mention that Cold calling is an art, and there is need for training in areas like:

        1: Voice Inflection - a professional skill that is developed over time and many sales calls.

        2: Sales Empathy -The ability to sense and adapt yourself to the energy of the other person on the end of the phone or across the table. This is learned after a few thousand calls.

        3: Mood control- how you project your energy on the phone.

        4: Also according to the OP, to get through a receptionist you: "have to be polite, ongoing, flirt a bit, call them by their names, thank them often, make them feel like the center of the world. Oh and it has to be as authentic as possible, you have to feel it...

        5: The ability to rebuttal hard 3 times to get the meeting. (which is one good reason you are meeting alot of people that "dont believe in the internet").

        ALL of this is Beautiful, but one thing is missing. It all takes "Talent and Experience", even “personality”.

        These all sound simple, but the vague nuances that a person has to be familiar with to make them work require, personality flair, and/or natural talent and training.

        What you really want to do is rather design a sales system that requires no talent, nor training, nor flair, nor personality…. That even a mule could succeed with.

        Create a simple system that doesnt require alot of ass kissing , talking till you are blue and explaining to sell.

        Hard rebutting 3 times to get the meeting is something I personally would not do for instance: (note: this is why you end up meeting with people who “don’t believe in the internet”). Why not focus on customers who already want it before you even show up?

        Sure its good for my ego to “sell” people, but its not efficient, and it is unnecessary. I don’t want my business to be run by my talent, personality and flair… because that comes and goes along with my mood and I cant depend on it. Nor can I depend on my STAFF if our performance is based on those things... furthermore I will have to hire only qualified people... they cost alot and are very high maintenance to babysit.

        No. I want my business to be a machine with no need for a personality, that cranks out sales for me as easily and with as little resistance as possible.

        I want my sales experiences to be the same.

        In other words:
        Instead of Kissing Secretaries asses and flirting and all that unnecessary stuff that requires a lot of talent… why not just by pass her altogether?

        You can do that by targeting your call list properly.


        Now you don’t need any talent to get passed a secretary or any flirting... Simple, it’s done!

        Just don’t target businesses with secretaries. It’s as simple as choosing the right selection criteria for your call data sheets.

        Now that you have created a list that bypasses secretaries, you have a component of a “system” that works for an average person.

        NOW:

        You take 5 more points (components) aside from the secretary thing, and cut out the resistance in those areas as well by
        systemizing them… what do you have now?

        A pitch that 100 people can sell with, even if not a single one has any training or talent.

        It used to be my job to hire 15 telemarketers a week and weed though them till I could get 5 decent ones. I kept 100 of them on at all times ideally.

        Now how did I keep that many telemarketers all hitting their quota’s… when sales requires all this flair, training and experience …?


        Simple by knowing this: I cant expect a 10 dollar per hour sales person to be that great… so I have to design a system that doesn’t require talented sales people… one that a mule could succeed with.

        A mule with:

        A: No personality
        B: No flair
        C: A mule that sits there and can succeed not by selling but rather by “Just delivering my message”.

        Why? Why not hire talented people?

        Because then your business is “people dependent” and not “systems” dependent. A systems dependent business will run and meet its projections no matter if your sales person is in a bad mood or what… Because the sales people don’t do the work. The system does. The people just run it (the system) through the motions… the telemarketers are more like “machine operators” and the selling system you created for them is the machine itself.

        If your sales pitch/selling system requires a talented, highly trained sales person to succeed with it... then your business is always going to depend on your ability to keep highly trained primadonna sales people.

        I totally respect what the op is presenting here, but you can’t build your business on great sales people, you have to build it on great “systems” of selling.

        I think that what is being offered here is excellent for an advanced sales person and is excellent advanced sales training, but I also think that to pull a lot of this stuff off, you need to be a real “salesperson”.

        You can do 6 figure sales, with a good sales “system” that requires no “selling”, only “delivering the message”…

        You can sell with no personality at all if you are working off the right system.

        Listen, if I need a website or if I need to increase my rankings… and you are telling me that’s what you do for a living… and you are offering me a way to do it that’s simple, and doesn’t require a lot of risk for me… you don’t have to sell me.

        If your offer is structured properly, it’s a no brainer and I don’t have to be convinced…

        UNLESS “Im not that person”… unless “you targeted the wrong person”… unless you “didn’t feed the right leads into the system”…
        Create systems that average , dry no personality people can sell with.

        Lastly,

        OTHER WISE: You wont be able to duplicate and your business will always be dependent on your ability to continue being a motivated sales person, or your ability to hire highly talented people.

        I have made my living by getting no talented people to pull off extraordinary sales, with little or no training. So I know that with the right systems you can apply “E-Myth” concepts to sales programs, that make them almost run themselves.

        The sales people as I said are just running the machine through its motions.


        What do I like?

        I like a system that a room of 50 people can hit the quota even if they are half asleep.

        Why do you think 10 dollar per hour telemarketers make more sales than 100k saleman do…?

        Because call center owners know that in order to duplicate successfully you need a system that works itself by way of numbers… and not over qualified “salespeople”.

        In closing.

        I think the OP is a brilliant sales talent!

        Many Props to the great Info you have provided here.

        What I have added is just another perspective, understanding that most SEO people arent the trained sales killer that you are, and while some of these techniques are second nature for a great salesperson, alot of the nuances cannot be understood by an average seo guy that just wants to get some sales rolling... in fact their failure rate, trying to imitate a pro, may just discourage them right out of the game...

        Still for me, an advanced seller... the stuff you just described was like a smooth refreshing vanilla shake.

        Very Cool.
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        • Profile picture of the author PhilippeLabrie
          I'm glad it helped some people, it's basically a good 6 years of experience tidbits. I could probably go at it for hours.

          Like John mentionned, it takes sales experience and personality to use theses perfectly, but for thoses with sell experiences here it will feel just natural.

          Funny comment about how I should sell theses, maybe one day..

          Also about the mentor, I consider myself lucky to have met someone willing to coach and teach me very well in sales and other areas. Although it gets painful at a certain point when that person passed on most of their experience to you and comes that feeling that there's not much stuff to learn anymore from your mentor, in my case we are now good friends and that is it, I moved on to other projects but I will forever be greatfull for the experienced he provided to me.


          Well anyway, cheers to you all!
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          • Profile picture of the author Johnno
            I have to agree with PeterMax. Local business owners want more sales.

            Page 1 on Google is a completely separate proposition to more sales. Selling the former is infinitely harder than selling the latter.

            Generate leads via SEO or PPC and give them away for free at first to prove yourself.
            One you have demonstrated your value start charging.
            The only issue then is how much to charge.
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            • Profile picture of the author PhilippeLabrie
              Originally Posted by Johnno View Post

              I have to agree with PeterMax. Local business owners want more sales.

              Page 1 on Google is a completely separate proposition to more sales. Selling the former is infinitely harder than selling the latter.

              Generate leads via SEO or PPC and give them away for free at first to prove yourself.
              One you have demonstrated your value start charging.
              The only issue then is how much to charge.
              You can charge on results since you own the pages and have access to stats, or a very low monthly and they will ask for more if it works.
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  • Profile picture of the author Aaronsmith
    nice information thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author jesus72knight
    Nothing beats getting clients from local businesses. Sometimes annoying to meet this "uhhh" so-so people but it's worth the thrill. It gives the feeling that you're really into your business.
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  • Profile picture of the author jzmoore
    When talking to local business owners I tend to stay away from the "SEO" talk. I have found many "lump SEO" into an PPC campaign gone bad, or a fly by nighter that used some temporary blackhat techniques to boost rankings only to drop drastically once google caught on.

    I use a relevant keyword phrase, show them first hand their competitors ranking for that phrase and how much business they are losing on a daily basis by not showing up. When they see their actual competitors listed it really brings it home. And I remind them, each position you achieve on the first page will knock off your competitors, really brings a "devilish grin" to their face. lol.

    I make lead generation sites that point back to their site. If they drop my services in the future, I have a fully optimized site primed and ready to point to their competitors site for very little work.

    So, the ultimate question is not "How much does your service cost?" I reply with, (with absolute confidence, not cockiness - big difference) "The question is not how much does my service cost, but how much money are you losing on a daily basis by not acquiring my services?"

    This pisses off some business owners, but most appreciate the straight-forwardness, and gains respect. I do not look to chase down and convince owners. I look for those who are ready to take action and see the value in the service. The few times that I had to sell sell sell an owner on my services, I had to "fire them" a few months into the relationship because they were a royal pain, and constantly questioning my services, and were more trouble than it was worth.

    Hope this adds some value to this thread.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dap
    excellent post. Thanks for sharing.
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