Newbie: Questions about keyword research

14 years ago

Just want to share my knowledge about keyword research, and also getting our websites ranked well for keywords that we would like to target.

The reason why we are often advised to target long-tailed keywords (keywords with more than 3 words in it - For example "how do i potty train my dog" is a long-tailed keyword) is because the competition level is lower there (in there are lesser sites that are optimized to target these long-tailed keywords) and as such, your site has a much better chance of being ranked well for these keywords.

True enough that the number of searches for these long-tailed keywords is low (compared to people who search for a broad keyword), but people who search for these long-tailed keywords are much more targeted (in that they know exactly what they want).

Let me give you an example - Say you target your website to rank for the keyword "dog training" - Granted that there are more people searching for "dog training" compared to "how to potty train my dog", but the thing is this - There are tens of thousands of sites that are also trying to get ranked well for this keyword. And if your site is a new one, chances are you won't see it ranked well for this keyword (and hence you won't even get the traffic). Also, people who searched for "dog training" are also not targeted - In that they just want to look at dog training in general (just browsing for some information).

However, if you target your website to get ranked well for "How to potty train my dog", you are sure that people who type in this keyphrase are looking exactly for information on how to potty train their dogs - And if you have a product on potty training a dog on your website, chances are higher that your visitor will make a purchase - And that means money for you...

Hope this helps, and let me know if you have any questions, or anything that you do not quite understand...

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firescorpz

14 years ago

Originally Posted by thrigrri

Just want to share my knowledge about keyword research, and also getting our websites ranked well for keywords that we would like to target.

The reason why we are often advised to target long-tailed keywords (keywords with more than 3 words in it - For example "how do i potty train my dog" is a long-tailed keyword) is because the competition level is lower there (in there are lesser sites that are optimized to target these long-tailed keywords) and as such, your site has a much better chance of being ranked well for these keywords.

True enough that the number of searches for these long-tailed keywords is low (compared to people who search for a broad keyword), but people who search for these long-tailed keywords are much more targeted (in that they know exactly what they want).

Let me give you an example - Say you target your website to rank for the keyword "dog training" - Granted that there are more people searching for "dog training" compared to "how to potty train my dog", but the thing is this - There are tens of thousands of sites that are also trying to get ranked well for this keyword. And if your site is a new one, chances are you won't see it ranked well for this keyword (and hence you won't even get the traffic). Also, people who searched for "dog training" are also not targeted - In that they just want to look at dog training in general (just browsing for some information).

However, if you target your website to get ranked well for "How to potty train my dog", you are sure that people who type in this keyphrase are looking exactly for information on how to potty train their dogs - And if you have a product on potty training a dog on your website, chances are higher that your visitor will make a purchase - And that means money for you...

Hope this helps, and let me know if you have any questions, or anything that you do not quite understand...

Cheers
Jun Yuan

Hi Jun Yuan,

Thanks for your advise. I have this question in mind after your reply on

"There are tens of thousands of sites that are also trying to get ranked well for this keyword. And if your site is a new one, chances are you won't see it ranked well for this keyword"

1) Can I said first I have to find a keyword phrase that nobody use but still it will get you to be rank with lot of search? Is this possible?

2) you mention for new site, it hard to get rank from popular keyword. So if I get rank for a few long tail keyword, do I add in those popular keyword in the later part ?

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thrigrri

14 years ago

Hi,

To answer your questions:

Originally Posted by firescorpz

1) Can I said first I have to find a keyword phrase that nobody use but still it will get you to be rank with lot of search? Is this possible?

I wouldn't say that you should find a keyword phrase that nobody use - But rather, you should look for one where the number of competing websites are low... To check out the number of competing websites, just copy the keyword phrase (from the keyword research tool), head over to Google, and then paste the keyword phrase around quotes...

For example, to find out the number of competing websites for the keyword phrase "how to potty train your dog", all I need is to copy the entire keyword phrase and surround it with quotation marks (before the first letter of the first word and after the last letter of the last word) - And you can see the number of results returned (at this time of searching there are 124,000 competing websites). Compare this to a short keyword phrase such as "dog training", where there are 4,800,000 competing websites...

Look at these 2 figures and you'll know that it is much easier to get your site ranked well for "how to potty train your dog" compared to "dog training".

In my personal opinion, I would normally try to get my website ranked for keyword phrases that have less than 500,000 competing websites for the start...

Originally Posted by firescorpz

2) you mention for new site, it hard to get rank from popular keyword. So if I get rank for a few long tail keyword, do I add in those popular keyword in the later part ?

You may do so if you wish to - But like I say, long tailed keyphrases are much more targeted and also it is easier to get your website well for... And in terms of traffic, personally, I would rather prefer lower volumes of traffic (but they are all targeted, and the chances of getting the targeted traffic to do what you want them to is much higher) rather than huge volumes of traffic (that are all untargeted).

Hope this helps!

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firescorpz

14 years ago

Originally Posted by thrigrri

Hi,

To answer your questions:

I wouldn't say that you should find a keyword phrase that nobody use - But rather, you should look for one where the number of competing websites are low... To check out the number of competing websites, just copy the keyword phrase (from the keyword research tool), head over to Google, and then paste the keyword phrase around quotes...

For example, to find out the number of competing websites for the keyword phrase "how to potty train your dog", all I need is to copy the entire keyword phrase and surround it with quotation marks (before the first letter of the first word and after the last letter of the last word) - And you can see the number of results returned (at this time of searching there are 124,000 competing websites). Compare this to a short keyword phrase such as "dog training", where there are 4,800,000 competing websites...

Look at these 2 figures and you'll know that it is much easier to get your site ranked well for "how to potty train your dog" compared to "dog training".

In my personal opinion, I would normally try to get my website ranked for keyword phrases that have less than 500,000 competing websites for the start...

You may do so if you wish to - But like I say, long tailed keyphrases are much more targeted and also it is easier to get your website well for... And in terms of traffic, personally, I would rather prefer lower volumes of traffic (but they are all targeted, and the chances of getting the targeted traffic to do what you want them to is much higher) rather than huge volumes of traffic (that are all untargeted).

Hope this helps!

Cheers
Jun Yuan

Hi Jun Yuan,

You have clarify my doubt, thank you very much.

Here is another question, let said I manage to find a keyword with less then 500,000 side, maybe 350,000. So I still have 350,000 competing wesbite to compete with.

In this case, how do I ensure I will get rank in the first page of Google or Yahoo or other search engine?

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thrigrri

14 years ago

Originally Posted by firescorpz

Hi Jun Yuan,

You have clarify my doubt, thank you very much.

Here is another question, let said I manage to find a keyword with less then 500,000 side, maybe 350,000. So I still have 350,000 competing wesbite to compete with.

In this case, how do I ensure I will get rank in the first page of Google or Yahoo or other search engine?

Hi

You're most welcome!

OK, as for whether or not your website will be able to be ranked in the first page of the major search engines, it will depends on on-page as well as off-page SEO.

On-page SEO simply means things you need to do on your web page to optimize it for the particular key phrase you are targeting. And my advice to you on this is to target 1 key phrase for 1 article that you write. And make sure that you sprinkle that particular key phrase throughout the article (my suggestion is to mention it once in the introduction paragraph, 2 - 3 times in the article body, and 1 more time in the conclusion).

And off-page SEO simply means having high-quality backlinks to your website - It could be from Web 2.0 sites (such as Squidoo and Hubpages), article directories (EzineArticles, GoArticles, etc.) , social bookmarking sites (such as Digg, Delicious, Propeller, etc.), social networking sites, forums (join and participate in forums that's related to your website and you can have a link to your website in your forum signature), commenting on related blogs, etc. - It does take time to work on building backlinks... You wouldn't want to spam those sites with links to your sites... What I'll recommend is to create 5 - 10 backlinks a day to your website (using those sources I have mentioned). Do it consistently over a period of time...

By doing all these, you should see that your website getting more visitors gradually, and see it moving up the search results...

Hope this helps!

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Jun Yuan

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firescorpz

14 years ago

Originally Posted by thrigrri

Hi

You're most welcome!

OK, as for whether or not your website will be able to be ranked in the first page of the major search engines, it will depends on on-page as well as off-page SEO.

On-page SEO simply means things you need to do on your web page to optimize it for the particular key phrase you are targeting. And my advice to you on this is to target 1 key phrase for 1 article that you write. And make sure that you sprinkle that particular key phrase throughout the article (my suggestion is to mention it once in the introduction paragraph, 2 - 3 times in the article body, and 1 more time in the conclusion).

And off-page SEO simply means having high-quality backlinks to your website - It could be from Web 2.0 sites (such as Squidoo and Hubpages), article directories (EzineArticles, GoArticles, etc.) , social bookmarking sites (such as Digg, Delicious, Propeller, etc.), social networking sites, forums (join and participate in forums that's related to your website and you can have a link to your website in your forum signature), commenting on related blogs, etc. - It does take time to work on building backlinks... You wouldn't want to spam those sites with links to your sites... What I'll recommend is to create 5 - 10 backlinks a day to your website (using those sources I have mentioned). Do it consistently over a period of time...

By doing all these, you should see that your website getting more visitors gradually, and see it moving up the search results...

Hope this helps!

Cheers
Jun Yuan

Hi Jun Yuan,

Thanks again

Regarding On page SEO, do you mean I have to create a few article for each keyword? My site is a web shop (please see my signature link below) so most of the page are the items I am trying to sell then article. Does this affect my ranking for on page SEO?

As for Off page SEO, I have heard that I need to get quality backlink to my page. I do have to consider the PR of the side and the it must be do follow right? This is what I see from other SEO forum. But how do I check is it dofollow and high PR?

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firescorpz

14 years ago

Originally Posted by firescorpz

Hi Jun Yuan,

Thanks again

Regarding On page SEO, do you mean I have to create a few article for each keyword? My site is a web shop (please see my signature link below) so most of the page are the items I am trying to sell and not article. Does this affect my ranking for on page SEO?

As for Off page SEO, I have heard that I need to get quality backlink to my page. I do have to consider the PR of the side and the it must be do follow right? This is what I see from other SEO forum. But how do I check is it dofollow and high PR?

Hi,

Anyone able to advise on my question above :confused:

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firescorpz

14 years ago

Originally Posted by firescorpz

Hi Jun Yuan,

Thanks again

Regarding On page SEO, do you mean I have to create a few article for each keyword? My site is a web shop (please see my signature link below) so most of the page are the items I am trying to sell then article. Does this affect my ranking for on page SEO?

As for Off page SEO, I have heard that I need to get quality backlink to my page. I do have to consider the PR of the side and the it must be do follow right? This is what I see from other SEO forum. But how do I check is it dofollow and high PR?

Anyone can advise me on the question above? :confused:

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flipfl0p

14 years ago

Hi Firecorpz,

First and foremost I am also a newbie here when it comes to Internet Marketing, I just started last february. I hated it when I really need some answers and nobody seem to care about it. So I know how you feel right now and I will be willing to help you out even if I'm also a newb.

Originally Posted by firescorpz

Regarding On page SEO, do you mean I have to create a few article for each keyword? My site is a web shop (please see my signature link below) so most of the page are the items I am trying to sell then article. Does this affect my ranking for on page SEO??

How many keywords do you have? For a newbie like me I suggest you focus only on 1 keyword. 1 keyword only and put it with 1-3% density on your keyword.
**( make a search for this because a lot of the marketers vary on this decision. Mine i strictly put it in 1% like 1mainkeyword/100 word article). So 500 word article 5keyword only(for me again). Some will tell you to get 3% but it vary's I strongly suggest make your search on this forums. But DON'T GO OVER 3% cause (for me) it will be unreadable to readers and will be considered as a spam. Plus 3-5%LSI keywords on the articles.

**LSI means the words/keywords that is closely related to your site. Don't forget this because this can make your trouble in rankings easier and you wil lrank for keywords you don't expect to rank as well.
Go to Goodle keyword tool, type your keyword there and get the whole list. That wil lbe you LSI keyword that can help you with your rankings. There are also sonme tools about researching for your LSI keywords like google wheel and many more.

**** Set your all your articles in this criteria. for 1 article get your main keyword and for the secind article 1 LSI will be your main keyword, for 3rd article your Main keyword again and so forth. Then sprinke all your pages with your keyword and LSI's. And with regards to your last question above "The articles = the sales page" so your aticles must be optimized with LSI and main keyword and as well as selling your stuff 3in1 like nescafe.

**If you have an affiliate website focus on getting 3-8 post with articles related to your niche. Then summarize this articles and post in HIGH PR article directories daily. 3 post 3 summarized articles(No need of spinning if you are targeting only Backlinks). Spinning is used for you to get more backlinks for the publishers can pick your articles but for a newbie(like me again) I suggest just change the 1st sentence and submit it for every article directories. EZA first before other article directories.

**If you are targeting a high traffic/competiton website create a blog inside your website/blog. Post the articles inside the blog and summarize it and post in on other article directories. for every article you create repeat the steps mentioned above then you will get a high and fast rankings.

Originally Posted by firescorpz

As for Off page SEO, I have heard that I need to get quality backlink to my page. I do have to consider the PR of the side and the it must be do follow right? This is what I see from other SEO forum. But how do I check is it dofollow and high PR?

Yes you have to consider PR of the site when doing backlinking. For me I don't bookmark on sites that has PR0-PR1. I THINK that they will just give me backlink but of nonquality.

For checking of no follow & PR of the sites You have to have firefox as you browser and try these. I use this cause its free and I know that there are other softwares there but I don't want to invest huge money if my Internet income does not suffice with the tools I am using.

seobook - tool in firefox to detect do follow
NoDoFollow - tool in firefox to detect do follow
Link Detective - there's a free trial of these to detect for PR's of the site.

Hope this helps and everything I've posted isn't ment to start a discussion I just want to help and If I posted something incorrectly Please don't hesitate to correct me. i am willing to.

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thrigrri

14 years ago

Hey

Sorry for the late reply... Was very busy the whole day and didn't have the time to log into the forum to check out replies to threads...

Regarding your questions:

Regarding On page SEO, do you mean I have to create a few article for each keyword? My site is a web shop (please see my signature link below) so most of the page are the items I am trying to sell then article. Does this affect my ranking for on page SEO?

OK... I've just taken a look at your website... What you can do here (if I were you) is that I would create a section where I write articles regarding the different types of jewelery (which you have for sale), which type of jewelry is most suitable for which occasions, how to take care of these jewelry such that they can last for the longest period of time, etc. - Hope you get the idea there... You might even want to post a video to show your visitors how these jewelry are being made (perhaps record some short videos of people making these jewelry that you have)

You can use these articles to educate your prospective customers about your products... Equip with full understanding of your products, your customers will also be more willing to buy it from your site...

So in a way, you are killing 2 birds with 1 stone - First you have unique articles (each targeting an individual keyword phrase) that you can rank well in the search engines, secondly you educate your prospective customers (and get more sales).

The above is probably how I would go about doing my on-page SEO if I'm in your shoes...

As for Off page SEO, I have heard that I need to get quality backlink to my page. I do have to consider the PR of the side and the it must be do follow right? This is what I see from other SEO forum. But how do I check is it dofollow and high PR?

As for checking the PR of the site, you can download a tool from Firefox called "SEO for Firefox Extension" and you can download for free from the site below:

SEO for Firefox Extension: Free SEO Toolbar Firefox Browser Plugin

I am not too sure on how to check whether or not the site is dofollow (perhaps other warriors can help you out there) but one thing you can do to get quality backlinks is to do link exchanges from related sites (sites selling jewelry in this case) - You can contact the webmaster of the respective sites...

Also, you can use the backlink strategies that I've described in my previous reply to you - Those sites that I've mentioned have a good PR and also have dofollow.

Hope this helps.

Cheers
Jun Yuan

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firescorpz

14 years ago

Originally Posted by thrigrri

Hey

Sorry for the late reply... Was very busy the whole day and didn't have the time to log into the forum to check out replies to threads...

Regarding your questions:

OK... I've just taken a look at your website... What you can do here (if I were you) is that I would create a section where I write articles regarding the different types of jewelery (which you have for sale), which type of jewelry is most suitable for which occasions, how to take care of these jewelry such that they can last for the longest period of time, etc. - Hope you get the idea there... You might even want to post a video to show your visitors how these jewelry are being made (perhaps record some short videos of people making these jewelry that you have)

You can use these articles to educate your prospective customers about your products... Equip with full understanding of your products, your customers will also be more willing to buy it from your site...

So in a way, you are killing 2 birds with 1 stone - First you have unique articles (each targeting an individual keyword phrase) that you can rank well in the search engines, secondly you educate your prospective customers (and get more sales).

The above is probably how I would go about doing my on-page SEO if I'm in your shoes...

As for checking the PR of the site, you can download a tool from Firefox called "SEO for Firefox Extension" and you can download for free from the site below:

SEO for Firefox Extension: Free SEO Toolbar Firefox Browser Plugin

I am not too sure on how to check whether or not the site is dofollow (perhaps other warriors can help you out there) but one thing you can do to get quality backlinks is to do link exchanges from related sites (sites selling jewelry in this case) - You can contact the webmaster of the respective sites...

Also, you can use the backlink strategies that I've described in my previous reply to you - Those sites that I've mentioned have a good PR and also have dofollow.

Hope this helps.

Cheers
Jun Yuan

Hi Jun Yuan,

Thank you again for your advise.
I will think of more articles as you have suggested and hope it help in my SEO.

I will try to explore the firefox SEOtool too.

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thrigrri

14 years ago

Originally Posted by firescorpz

Hi Jun Yuan,

Thank you again for your advise.
I will think of more articles as you have suggested and hope it help in my SEO.

I will try to explore the firefox SEOtool too.

You're most welcome! Let me know if there's anything you need help in... I'll try to help...

Have a great weekend!

Cheers
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firescorpz

14 years ago

Hi guys,

If I put in new keywords to my meta keywords, how long do I have to wait to see whether is my website rank for that keywords:confused:

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thrigrri

14 years ago

Originally Posted by firescorpz

If I put in new keywords to my meta keywords, how long do I have to wait to see whether is my website rank for that keywords:confused:

It will depend on when your website gets "spidered" by the search engines... What you can do after you have make the changes to your website is to ping it using either pingomatic.com or pingoat.com.

That will alert the search engines you've updated your site and it will spend its "spiders" to index it... As for how long you have to wait, that's really depending on the search engine (in my personal opinion)...

However, you can speed up the process by building up the number of backlinks you have to your website (using the various link building ideas which I've shared with you earlier) - That'll definitely help (because I used these ideas before)

Hope this helps!

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firescorpz

14 years ago

Originally Posted by thrigrri

It will depend on when your website gets "spidered" by the search engines... What you can do after you have make the changes to your website is to ping it using either pingomatic.com or pingoat.com.

That will alert the search engines you've updated your site and it will spend its "spiders" to index it... As for how long you have to wait, that's really depending on the search engine (in my personal opinion)...

However, you can speed up the process by building up the number of backlinks you have to your website (using the various link building ideas which I've shared with you earlier) - That'll definitely help (because I used these ideas before)

Hope this helps!

Cheers
Jun Yuan

Thank you again for your advise.
I need to digest this information abit and see what can I find out from here : )

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Brad Callen

14 years ago

Sound advice and the only thing I would add is a little more info on analyzing a SERP (search engine results page): Google SERPs Analysis: Which Factors to Take into Account? | Search Engine Journal

The more you look at them the more it doesn't make sense! But you can use certain stats as indicators towards which ones you definitely want to stay out of and target a more specific phrase. That's where most conversions take place anyways!

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XToni

14 years ago

Not quite TRUE. Trying to rank for a single long tail keyword could be very disappointing for you especially if it has a very low search volume. Second reason is google is indexing web pages not websites, people always tend to forget this.

Your main keyword should be not longer than 2-3 words and long tail should be secondary keywords for you. This is also natural and SE love's it. Your main page should be let's say about "dog training" and from there go for "dog training at home" or "potty train my dog" and so on, and start building backlinks for those pages and the home page the same time.
Allways keep an eye to the search queries from webmaster tools

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spanisheye

14 years ago

For new websites there is little point in chasing the high-traffic competitive phrases. It's much easier to get traffic early on when you focus on longer phrases which yes, get less traffic. But you have to start somewhere.

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lingoway

14 years ago

Use of long tail keyword is a good idea because long terms are used by serious searcher.

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drcrdc

14 years ago

For me you either go for short tail (2-3 words) and really focus on just "few" them or go for long tails (4-6 words) but you'll need "tons" of them

But it depend on which area your keyword research is for (CB, CPA, Adsense etc..etc)

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webdango

14 years ago

The number of competeting web site doesn't matter. The ONLY thing that matters is the strength of the web sites sitting on the first page of Google. These are the web sites you want to beat, so these are teh web sites you want to assess.

PageRank of the listing
At least half the sites PR 0 or PR1
No site higher than a PR4

PageRank of the parent site of the listing
No higher than PR4

Google Backlinks
I like to see none, but 10 or less is OK

Yahoo Site Explorer Backlinks
1,000 or less, the fewer the better
Links from the same domain don't count

I use SEOQuake to get all this information (except site PR) right in the search results page.

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wmm8468

14 years ago

Originally Posted by webdango

The number of competeting web site doesn't matter. The ONLY thing that matters is the strength of the web sites sitting on the first page of Google. These are the web sites you want to beat, so these are teh web sites you want to assess.

PageRank of the listing
At least half the sites PR 0 or PR1
No site higher than a PR4

PageRank of the parent site of the listing
No higher than PR4

Google Backlinks
I like to see none, but 10 or less is OK

Yahoo Site Explorer Backlinks
1,000 or less, the fewer the better
Links from the same domain don't count

I use SEOQuake to get all this information (except site PR) right in the search results page.

I very much agree with webdango..other than SEOQuake, marketsamurai is also very helpful when dealing with keyword research kind of activities..

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firescorpz

14 years ago

Hi webdango,

Thanks for your advice but I am very confuse about what you said about the strength part?

How do you see strength and how does side get their strength? You talk about PR right, can you put it in a more layman term for me as I am totally new to SEO

Originally Posted by webdango

The number of competeting web site doesn't matter. The ONLY thing that matters is the strength of the web sites sitting on the first page of Google. These are the web sites you want to beat, so these are teh web sites you want to assess.

PageRank of the listing
At least half the sites PR 0 or PR1
No site higher than a PR4

PageRank of the parent site of the listing
No higher than PR4

Google Backlinks
I like to see none, but 10 or less is OK

Yahoo Site Explorer Backlinks
1,000 or less, the fewer the better
Links from the same domain don't count

I use SEOQuake to get all this information (except site PR) right in the search results page.

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Wechito

14 years ago

There are two main reasons why we preffer long-tail keywords:
- They tend to have less and weaker competitors
- They will drive to your site more targeted visitors, and the more targeted the traffic the more chances to make a sale.

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firescorpz

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Wechito

There are two main reasons why we preffer long-tail keywords:
- They tend to have less and weaker competitors
- They will drive to your site more targeted visitors, and the more targeted the traffic the more chances to make a sale.

Hi,

Thanks for your advise and I understand this part of long tail keyword after what you and jun yuan explain

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webdango

14 years ago

By how strong the site are I mean a combination of all the things I listed, which gives me a relative idea about how string the result is.

By looking at all those indicators, if they are wher eI like to see them, then I fifure there's a good chacne I can grab a spot in the top ten.

If the top results look to 'strong' - to many higher PR, too many back links, site PR too high, then I know it could be very tough to rank, adn then I can make a decision based on how commercial my keyword is as to whether ot not I want to go after it.

My ideal page of results shows at least 1 RP1 or PR 0 in the top three, and none of hte top there over PR 4. That's becasue the top 3 resutsl get over 70% of the clicks. There's a HUGE difference in traffic between being in the top 3 adn the bottom 7.

I talk about all this (and more) in my WSO in my sig of course

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firescorpz

14 years ago

Originally Posted by webdango

By how strong the site are I mean a combination of all the things I listed, which gives me a relative idea about how string the result is.

By looking at all those indicators, if they are wher eI like to see them, then I fifure there's a good chacne I can grab a spot in the top ten.

If the top results look to 'strong' - to many higher PR, too many back links, site PR too high, then I know it could be very tough to rank, adn then I can make a decision based on how commercial my keyword is as to whether ot not I want to go after it.

My ideal page of results shows at least 1 RP1 or PR 0 in the top three, and none of hte top there over PR 4. That's becasue the top 3 resutsl get over 70% of the clicks. There's a HUGE difference in traffic between being in the top 3 adn the bottom 7.

I talk about all this (and more) in my WSO in my sig of course

Which mean with high PR, competitor will find it hard to compete so I have to find those with lower PR rank to stand a chance?

How does one get high PR? For example, if I get my site rank at number 1 or 2 in the page but my PR is only 0 or 1, this mean I can easily being replace by competitor of higher PR to my site right?

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christineconte

14 years ago

Originally Posted by firescorpz

What I understand is, he said the word vintage guitar is too competitive and need to further drill down. now my question is isn't we are looking for keyword that majority are searching so we stand a better chance of the website get notice?

By drilling now further, isn't our chance limited?

Hey firescorpz - don't forget about the keyword phrase's commercial intent - definitely not something you want to forget about!

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webdevelopmentcompany

14 years ago

As for Off page SEO, I have heard that I need to get quality backlink to my page. I do have to consider the PR of the side and the it must be do follow right? This is what I see from other SEO forum. But how do I check is it dofollow and high PR?

It is good if you generate a backlink from good PR and dofollow. To check for PR download google toolbar and for dofollow there is two ways one is install searchstatus in your firefox browser and second is check physically from source code.
To generate niche link will provide you more benefit comparatively. Niche means most relevant category to your product.

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firescorpz

14 years ago

Originally Posted by webdevelopmentcompany

It is good if you generate a backlink from good PR and dofollow. To check for PR download google toolbar and for dofollow there is two ways one is install searchstatus in your firefox browser and second is check physically from source code.
To generate niche link will provide you more benefit comparatively. Niche means most relevant category to your product.

Hi,

I go to the firefox side and found the software complicated. To check on the PR and dofollow, which tool should I actually download?

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seoweb2000

14 years ago

Keyword research is a joke if you rely on any of the data the google or other kw software provide because the data is mostly false and misleading. The only true way to know the exact search for a given keyword is to run a test ppc campaign on a particular keyword. This way you will know for sure the impression count that you will be getting.

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firescorpz

14 years ago

Originally Posted by seoweb2000

Keyword research is a joke if you rely on any of the data the google or other kw software provide because the data is mostly false and misleading. The only true way to know the exact search for a given keyword is to run a test ppc campaign on a particular keyword. This way you will know for sure the impression count that you will be getting.

Test PPC campaign? We need to paid for this?

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firescorpz

14 years ago

By the way, why one of my keywords rank in Google singapore but not at other google? Is there anyway I can check the rank of my website for all google world wide?

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jeba1975

14 years ago

Try to build backlinks from websites throughout the world in your niche. This will give you better ranking in google worldwide.

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Harold Lindsey

14 years ago

I hope all of this doesn't send you into overload, but just wanted to add this little bit that has worked for me and many others as well.

Like it was already stated above, really try to look at the page rank of sites that you want to compete with. If it is to high, then just forget about the keyword and try another one.

One of the ways people are using to move up in Google is simply to add "Video to their pages." Google like video. And if you can say find a related video from Youtube that you can embed on your pages then you will find your sites being ranked a little higher as well.

You're site doesn't really have to be that big, it just has to be focused around one main topic. And then you can branch to sub-topics.

When you do go out searching for backlinks. Make sure they are related, and from decent "Page Ranked" sites. When the Google bots, and Viewers crawl your site they want to find a constant and consistent theme through out.

Hope this helps.

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