23 {{ upvoteCount | shortNum }}
23 {{ upvoteCount | shortNum }}

"Thin" Mini-Sites Being De-Indexed

by terryrayburn
19 replies
  • SEO
    • |
If someone has several "thin" mini-sites, as well as some more robust sites...

...and Google de-indexes the "thin" sites...

...are the robust semi-authority sites in danger also, because they're owned by the "thin" site perpetrator?
#deindexed #minisites #thin
  • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
    If Google begins to de-index based on ownership rather than the value of the content, wouldn't that tend to lower the quality of the user experience by potentially omitting sites that may have the results the user is looking for?
    Signature

    Dan's content is irregularly read by handfuls of people. Join the elite few by reading his blog: dcrBlogs.com, following him on Twitter: dcrTweets.com or reading his fiction: dcrWrites.com but NOT by Clicking Here!

    Dan also writes content for hire, but you can't afford him anyway.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2540593].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author The Dotcom Hippie
      Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert View Post

      If Google begins to de-index based on ownership rather than the value of the content, wouldn't that tend to lower the quality of the user experience by potentially omitting sites that may have the results the user is looking for?
      You know, it probably would. Personally, I think they just want to really take a stand against the MFA stuff and all that, and kind of make a statement in the process. They've been pretty mean to some marketers this year, and made it quite obvious that they really, really do not like them. And it doesn't matter one bit that you're making them good AdSense money (it's going to be peanuts to them anyway) - if they don't like the way you go about it they will either let their wrath loose on one of your sites - or all of them.
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2540649].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author Tom Goodwin
      Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert View Post

      If Google begins to de-index based on ownership rather than the value of the content, wouldn't that tend to lower the quality of the user experience by potentially omitting sites that may have the results the user is looking for?
      We all know Google really delivers on providing the most "relevant" search results:rolleyes:

      What is pretty clear is that Google has been de-indexing certain folks entire portfolio of sites interlinked with Adsense and/or Analytics, even sites that appear to be large, well-written and authoritative. If they find a few sites they don't like, they haven't just been nuking those, they've been nuking the good ones too.

      Tom
      Signature
      Masters Powerlifting
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2546685].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author Rebecca108
        I have a "thin" mini-site a sales page site for my own ebook, that was de-indexed by google recently. I was planning on building up the site into a more legitimate site, but hadn't gotten around to it. The domain is 2 years old. Should I just start fresh with a new domain since my existing domain has been slapped, or should I go ahead and build the existing domain up, like I was planning. Thanks in advance!
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2546787].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author TristanPerry
      Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert View Post

      If Google begins to de-index based on ownership rather than the value of the content, wouldn't that tend to lower the quality of the user experience by potentially omitting sites that may have the results the user is looking for?
      Unfortunately they do seem to delete by ownership, yes. There's been quite a few cases of all the sites (including good ones) which are linked (via GWT or analytics) being deindexed, possibly due to only a couple of 'bad' ones.

      I agree it'd harm the user experience, although I guess that Google would think that if a user has a couple (or even one) 'bad'/spammy site, then the user might use these 'bad'/spammy tactics on their other sites.

      I agree it's a pretty unfair conclusion to draw though (i.e. I do disagree with Google's view), but unfortunately it does seem they happily do this nonetheless.

      Originally Posted by terrapurus View Post

      What is known is Google is an ICANN-accredited registrar of domain names. I will let you draw from that what you will.
      This has come up before. It's a myth. Google being ICANN-accredited just means that they can register domains directly at 'wholesale' prices.

      It doesn't mean ICANN will suddenly break numerous confidentiality and privacy laws and share data from other company's with Google...
      Signature
      Plagiarism Guard - Protect Against Content Theft
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2574089].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author The Dotcom Hippie
    They can be in danger, as at least some AdSense publishers have experienced this year, when all sites tied to an AdSense account have been severely penalized - if not deindexed - because of one or more spammier sites. It's harsh but true.

    BTW, this classic MFA site was recently deindexed: 4 Slice Toaster

    Kinda sad, actually. That site has some lovely content.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2540607].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author EWS
      Originally Posted by The Dotcom Hippie View Post

      They can be in danger, as at least some AdSense publishers have experienced this year, when all sites tied to an AdSense account have been severely penalized - if not deindexed - because of one or more spammier sites. It's harsh but true.

      BTW, this classic MFA site was recently deindexed: 4 Slice Toaster

      Kinda sad, actually. That site has some lovely content.
      and yet this identical site 4 Slice Toaster - Different Types of 4 Slice Toasters is still indexed ?
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2542866].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author WareTime
      Originally Posted by The Dotcom Hippie View Post

      They can be in danger, as at least some AdSense publishers have experienced this year, when all sites tied to an AdSense account have been severely penalized - if not deindexed - because of one or more spammier sites. It's harsh but true.

      BTW, this classic MFA site was recently deindexed: 4 Slice Toaster

      Kinda sad, actually. That site has some lovely content.
      Dang! Lottsa "good" quality back links too. I went there for all my 4 slice toaster shopping needs. In fact "I remember the good old days when toaster are only 2 slice toaster and that was really good enough."

      Yes, those were the days.
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2546422].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author Bryan V
      Originally Posted by The Dotcom Hippie View Post


      BTW, this classic MFA site was recently deindexed: 4 Slice Toaster

      Kinda sad, actually. That site has some lovely content.
      I hope you're joking . Before actually using spinners I would have just guessed poor english, but there's some pretty obviously spun content on there that sounds ridiculous.

      "The defrosting underline is a most critical underline to demeanour for whilst shopping a toaster, with an assistance of this symbol a toaster initial defrosts a solidified object as good as afterwards starts toasting it."

      "While a reheat choice allows a user to reheat a toast, in box a toasts have been ready prior to a tea is finished as good as a countdown timer tells a user a volume of time left prior to a toasts can cocktail up."

      LOL I can't get enough.
      Signature
      Perhaps an attic I shall seek.
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2574045].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author jaxrefinance
    The whole MFA mini site thing is just bad business for the marketer. With just a little extra effort the website owner can turn that site into a real nice money maker by just adding articles every few days until he has 15 or 20 pages up there.

    Not only would it not get deindexed, it would also get more traffic if the proper keywords are used in the proper density.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2540936].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author derekwong28
    Earlier this year, almost all new sites set up within a few months on my server were banned. This was completely indiscriminte as all my sites were different and some had very high quality unique content such as M.A dissertations. Previsouly, I had hundreds of MFA sites banned on that server.

    Luckily, my most important sites were not touched as they were hosted elsewhere on many different Class C addresses. I do not have Adsense on the other sites nor do I use webmaster tools or use a common template.
    Signature

    Do not get between a wombat and a chocolate biscuit; you will regret it dearly!

    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2542407].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Marhelper
    Create mini sites that are hosted on no more than 20 sites per account. Use different domain registrars when the sites start building up. Use alternative monetization to Adsense such as Ad Brite, Yahoo, CPA, etc... Also, add backlinks and content to your sites continually.
    Signature
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2542743].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author terrapurus
    Originally Posted by terryrayburn View Post

    If someone has several "thin" mini-sites, as well as some more robust sites...

    ...and Google de-indexes the "thin" sites...

    ...are the robust semi-authority sites in danger also, because they're owned by the "thin" site perpetrator?

    Maybe they do .. maybe they don't.

    What is known is Google is an ICANN-accredited registrar of domain names. I will let you draw from that what you will.

    Their sandpit ... their rules.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2542800].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author seanicasia
    mm, 'Google works in mysterious ways' ... lol

    I think methods change, but principles remain the same.

    There was another thread about someone losing their entire blog sites ... so I think it's really important to always back things up as well.

    The way things seem these days, you never know when you get slapped, de-indexed, hacked etc.

    Still, we do our best and hope for the best!
    Signature
    Make a sale in 30 days or I'll Paypal you $500 >> Details here <<
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2543022].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    If you are relying on Google for your sales... You are making a huge mistake...

    The only bottom line Google is watching out for is there own, and if this news has left you shaking in fear... Then you have been operating your business in a silly and fool-hearty way...
    Signature
    Bill Platt, Oklahoma USA, PlattPublishing.com
    Publish Coloring Books for Profit (WSOTD 7-30-2015)
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2543406].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Technologize
    It's happening...

    Most Sites Got De-indexed Today ? - Webmaster Central Help
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2546187].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author Tom Goodwin
      Originally Posted by anteck View Post

      I'm not sure what "it's happening" means. Do you really think that today is d-day? give me a break.

      Sites get de-indexed all the time. they did 5 years ago. They did 2 years ago. They do today. ...and they will 2 years from now.

      The problem is you never really know why a site was indexed. Perhaps they linked out to an incest site? I don't know. Maybe they had some cookie stuffing on the site.
      Signature
      Masters Powerlifting
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2546654].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author WareTime
    Sooner or later every email sent by a spammer is viewed with a suspicious eye, I'd think websites are similar.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2546404].message }}

Trending Topics